Well,
Now I know for certain that this protocol CAN be used whilst on low carbs.
GJ
[quote]KeepAwaySheeple wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
ugh, i’m sorry, but this whole thing just reeks of sales pitch now
Oh, boo fucking hoo. How dare they try to run a business while giving you this free site and all its information.[/quote]
remember that everyone’s a ghost millionaire.
Thibs, would the older protocol be better for a mass gaining phase because of all the added carbs? Or would the newer protocol work just as well, specifically for mass gaining purposes?
thanks
So since we don’t have access to Anaconda or MAG-10 yet. How can we use this modified protocol using simply CHY?
Would it be something like Alpha-GPC. 2 FINiBARs. 30-40g CHY + added Leucine?
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Seems like w/o the FINiBARs this could be an excellent low carb version of the protocol.
Edit: I would add something prior, my guess is SWF.
Correct… you only need 20-25g of carbs to raise insulin levels.[/quote]
I thought SWF was low-moderate GI…wouldn’t Surge Recovery be more efficient?
[quote]Nicky_Boy28 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Seems like w/o the FINiBARs this could be an excellent low carb version of the protocol.
Edit: I would add something prior, my guess is SWF.
Correct… you only need 20-25g of carbs to raise insulin levels.
I thought SWF was low-moderate GI…wouldn’t Surge Recovery be more efficient?[/quote]
No, rice oligodextrin and palatinose have a much better partitioning effect and keep blood sugar levels more stable while still producing an elevation in insulin.
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
So since we don’t have access to Anaconda or MAG-10 yet. How can we use this modified protocol using simply CHY?
Would it be something like alpha-gpc. 2 finibars. 30-40g CHY + added Leucine?[/quote]
Honestly you can’t duplicate it. A huge part of Anaconda and MAG-10’s efficacy is in the improvement of recovery capacity. The shear amount of ammonia scavenging nutrients is so high that it is impossible to make an affordable and drinkable home version. There is way more than CHY and leucine in the product.
what do you mean by carb partitionning…what would be the french translation for it?
[quote]Nicky_Boy28 wrote:
what do you mean by carb partitionning…what would be the french translation for it?[/quote]
Habituellement, le mot partitionning veut dire la maniere dont le corps va utiliser une substance X. Par exemple, lorsqu’on dit qu’un produit produit un effet de nutrients partitionning, ca veut dire que le corps va utiliser les nutriments de facons plus adequates afin de réparer les fibres musculaires. Donc, dans ce cas-ci, je crois que CT veut dire que le corps utilise le rice oligodextrin et le palatinose de facon plus adequate dans le corps.
[quote]awaken279 wrote:
Nicky_Boy28 wrote:
what do you mean by carb partitionning…what would be the french translation for it?
Habituellement, le mot partitionning veut dire la maniere dont le corps va utiliser une substance X. Par exemple, lorsqu’on dit qu’un produit produit un effet de nutrients partitionning, ca veut dire que le corps va utiliser les nutriments de facons plus adequates afin de rÃ?©parer les fibres musculaires. Donc, dans ce cas-ci, je crois que CT veut dire que le corps utilise le rice oligodextrin et le palatinose de facon plus adequate dans le corps.[/quote]
Merci ;o)!
Meilleurs stockage?
[quote]Nicky_Boy28 wrote:
awaken279 wrote:
Nicky_Boy28 wrote:
what do you mean by carb partitionning…what would be the french translation for it?
Habituellement, le mot partitionning veut dire la maniere dont le corps va utiliser une substance X. Par exemple, lorsqu’on dit qu’un produit produit un effet de nutrients partitionning, ca veut dire que le corps va utiliser les nutriments de facons plus adequates afin de rÃ??Ã?©parer les fibres musculaires. Donc, dans ce cas-ci, je crois que CT veut dire que le corps utilise le rice oligodextrin et le palatinose de facon plus adequate dans le corps.
Merci ;o)!
Meilleurs stockage? [/quote]
plus ou moins. Plutot meilleure distribution / utilisation des carbs.
Thibs, would you prefer the older or newer protocol for a mass gaining phase? Just wasn’t sure if all teh added carbs in the older protocol would be an added benefit in a mass gaining phase compare dto the newer protocol?
thanks
[quote]Italiano wrote:
Thibs, would you prefer the older or newer protocol for a mass gaining phase? Just wasn’t sure if all teh added carbs in the older protocol would be an added benefit in a mass gaining phase compare dto the newer protocol?
thanks [/quote]
The new one… more effective, more ammonia scavenging stuff… more anaerobic capacity enhancers … more efficient for facilitating recovery and workout performance.
At this point, I’m pretty convinced that this new protocol is going to be worth it. I’m not usually an “early adapter”. I like to hear others chime in first. Initially, since I had Surge Recovery, I bought some Surge Workout Fuel and tried a simple protocol with just Surge Workout Fuel and Surge Recovery.
I personally experimented with various serving sizes and found this to work pretty good for me personally:
-45 oatmeal protein bar
-30 2 scoops Surge Recovery
-15 1.5 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
After about a month of this, I’m convinced enough that I’ve gone ahead and ordered Alpha-GPC, FINiBARs (THANK YOU Biotest FOR THE CHOCOLATE) and more surge brothers for the full protocol. I’ll be using this until the ingredients for the new Anaconda based protocol come out.
What I find nice about these supplements, is that I don’t have to worry about what to eat peri workout. I can focus on eating whole foods and staying low carb for most of the week if I want to. Then, on workout days, Biotest has already figured it out for me. I don’t even have to worry about getting too many extra carbs in, since they’re all there in the protocol. Sounds like the newer protocol may be a little lower carb though.
Thibs, what is the difference between MAG-10 and Anaconda? I believe they are both CHY, but with certain extra ingredients in each, such as leucine, etc?
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?
[quote]Italiano wrote:
Thibs, what is the difference between MAG-10 and Anaconda? I believe they are both CHY, but with certain extra ingredients in each, such as leucine, etc? [/quote]
I can’t give you the ingredients before the products come out. But MAG-10 has several performace-enhancing substance, not just recovery ones.
[quote]acelement wrote:
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?[/quote]
No I can’t. Wish I could, but it’s not possible.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
acelement wrote:
Ok Thibs, I know you said you can’t duplicate it w/o Anaconda and MAG-10, but this information is useless to 99% of your readers if we can’t even buy those products yet. You provided an old protocol to hold us over until the new products came out…can you provide a “close-enough” protocol for this new system with existing products to hold us over until these products are released?
No I can’t. Wish I could, but it’s not possible.[/quote]
You’re teasing us Coach. At this point Anaconda sounds like it’s ingredients include every supplement ever made.
[quote]Vir wrote:
Anything after the workout CT?[/quote]
Yes I’d like to know that as well.
I guess some CHY again. What about carbs or even glycine/glutamine to lower cortisol? Or will Anaconda take care of that to?