MMA Training Hub II

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:
I’m ready to start back up with some work from home on the bag, but not sure what I want to do in terms of a workout. I need to do some reading and figure some shit out.

What are you trying to figure out man?

Exactly what type of workout I want to put together. I haven’t done this shit in a while and don’t want to kill myself the first time back, but do want to make it somewhat challenging.[/quote]

You could do something similar to what I’ve been doing.

Every time I start working out 5 days a week, I get burned out, sick, or injured. So in order to increase my work capacity, I’ve been lifting two days a week, and then doing straight boxing workouts on the other three.

I started off really easy- shoulder rehab work, then two rounds of shadowboxing for two minutes, and two minutes of jumping rope for two rounds. Then I’d call it a day.

Over the past two months I’ve worked up to 3x3 shadowboxing, 3-4x 100-150 skips jumping rope, 3x3 on the pads, then maybe some medicine ball work, pushups, and situps.

But I would start real easy- just doing a couple rounds of shadowboxing and a couple rounds of jump rope. Work in the heavy bag after a couple weeks, then some other work after that… it’s worked well for me.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:
I’m ready to start back up with some work from home on the bag, but not sure what I want to do in terms of a workout. I need to do some reading and figure some shit out.

What are you trying to figure out man?

Exactly what type of workout I want to put together. I haven’t done this shit in a while and don’t want to kill myself the first time back, but do want to make it somewhat challenging.

You could do something similar to what I’ve been doing.

Every time I start working out 5 days a week, I get burned out, sick, or injured. So in order to increase my work capacity, I’ve been lifting two days a week, and then doing straight boxing workouts on the other three.

I started off really easy- shoulder rehab work, then two rounds of shadowboxing for two minutes, and two minutes of jumping rope for two rounds. Then I’d call it a day.

Over the past two months I’ve worked up to 3x3 shadowboxing, 3-4x 100-150 skips jumping rope, 3x3 on the pads, then maybe some medicine ball work, pushups, and situps.

But I would start real easy- just doing a couple rounds of shadowboxing and a couple rounds of jump rope. Work in the heavy bag after a couple weeks, then some other work after that… it’s worked well for me.
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Thanks for the advice, FI.

BJJ/Wrestling tonight. Worked from side control, then worked on submissions (shoulder lock, armbars) and single/double leg takedowns. Finished with conditioning drills. Finally getting the hang of the armbar and how to apply the right pressure at the right place. Just need more practice, just like anything else.

BJJ 4-5 times a week. Weight training 4 times a week (ws4sb). Complexes on Sundays or some other type of circuit conditioning. Before competition, cut on the weights and add conditioning and train BJJ no less than 5 times a week.

I went to the judo club after work yesterday helped teach a class-
class was very receptive and fun. and asked when I could come and play again.

I hung around to roll/gossip/bullshit while some more serious rolling playtime started.

but an “old friend/competitor” from NYAC club team basically came out and said where was I training these days.
I am like well I don’t really train too much at all.

he is like bullshit, then he basically says that clearly I look like I am training- and that I must be playing judo privately somewhere else and what was I training for?

I had to actually admit to this turd burglar
in front of a few good friends that I am broken.
no longer super flexible (for me)
getting slower (for me)
feeling banged up
likely in need of surgery, and really cant/dont play/roll anymore.

I play in the weight room/track/pool that’s it. teach the odd class here and there
thank you for asking.

I guess being an endorphin addict , former super jock, former what ever
or an athlete in the decline isn’t good enough.
I mean what the hell do people do with that 10 to 12 ( or 30 to 40 ) extra hours a week
do?

I have no illusions ( or time ) for competing or illusions of competing

but what the hell am I training for?

I have enjoyed some modest progress in the weight room- I squatted 405 and pulled 435 two weeks ago
but that gets kind of boring…

anyway, I enjoy the teaching but the transition is not easy to go from active to passive
or to advisor what have you.

what the hell am I training for?

what the hell am I training for?

[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I went to the judo club after work yesterday helped teach a class-
class was very receptive and fun. and asked when I could come and play again.

I hung around to roll/gossip/bullshit while some more serious rolling playtime started.

but an “old friend/competitor” from NYAC club team basically came out and said where was I training these days.
I am like well I don’t really train too much at all.

he is like bullshit, then he basically says that clearly I look like I am training- and that I must be playing judo privately somewhere else and what was I training for?

I had to actually admit to this turd burglar
in front of a few good friends that I am broken.
no longer super flexible (for me)
getting slower (for me)
feeling banged up
likely in need of surgery, and really cant/dont play/roll anymore.

I play in the weight room/track/pool that’s it. teach the odd class here and there
thank you for asking.

I guess being an endorphin addict , former super jock, former what ever
or an athlete in the decline isn’t good enough.
I mean what the hell do people do with that 10 to 12 ( or 30 to 40 ) extra hours a week
do?

I have no illusions ( or time ) for competing or illusions of competing

but what the hell am I training for?

I have enjoyed some modest progress in the weight room- I squatted 405 and pulled 435 two weeks ago
but that gets kind of boring…

anyway, I enjoy the teaching but the transition is not easy to go from active to passive
or to advisor what have you.

what the hell am I training for?

what the hell am I training for?

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Does it not still bring you pleasure simply to do it?

I confess that I’ve asked myself many times why I train. I’m a middle aged suburban housewife, not a freaking IDF soldier. In the end it came down to the fact that the simple act of doing it brings me pleasure.

You?

Anyone want to critique my schedule? I have a lot of time restraints but I’ve worked hard on putting this together and want to make sure if I do something I do it right! I also run track and want to improve as a sprinter, so keep that in mind.

Monday - AM: Upper Body Lift / PM: Sprint work

Tuesday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Wednesday - AM: Lower Body Lift / PM: Striking (or occasionally running) every Wed followed by BJJ every other Wednesday (school meetings)

Thursday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Friday - Need advice as I can choose between running, lifting, or a conditioning/flexibility class at the MMA gym (prob best) followed by a general MMA class if I’m still alive

Saturday - PM: Flag Football League… also have a BJJ option in the AM, and I may lift after football for grip strength and abs… the game itself serves as a good sprint/cardio workout!

Sunday - OFF: Watch football and chilllll out

  • Mon and Wed I also have a morning self defense class at school but that doesnt really count for much lol
  • Yoga, Tai Chi, and Pilates sessions will be sprinkled in throughout the weeks too

I have some fears of overtraining and may have to self regulate a bit if I’m burning out… but what are your thoughts? I want to get the fighting skills but also keep my work in the weight room and stay fast!

Still working on the weight sessions (might have to adjust to 3 a week yet try not to kill the joints) but here’s my thinking…

Upper Lifts:
Towel Chin-Ups (Back + Grip)
Knuckle Pushups, Depth Push-Ups, and/or DB Presses (Chest)
Bent Over Rows (Back)
Upright Row (Shoulder + Back)
DB Military Press / Arnolds (Shoulder)
Shrugs (Traps)
Dips (Tri’s)
Curls (Bi’s)

Lower Lifts:
One Arm DB Snatch (Lower + Shoulder)
Single Arm DB Clean and Jerk (Lower + Shoulder)
Bulgarian Squat (Lower)
Suitcase Deadlift (Lower + Abs)
Walking Lunges (Lower + Hips)
Seated Hip Abductor (Hips)
Band Leg Extension (Hips)
Hanging Leg Raises (Abs and Hips)
Calf Raises
Reverse Calf Raises

  • ab work and grip/wrist/forearm

I could def use some advice on the actual design of my work in the weight room! 2 or more sessions? Which exercises are optimal?

Taught my first BJJ class on Monday and semi-taught a class on Saturday (supposed to be open mat but showed 2 techniques, though allowed for free-roll and free-stretch).

It was cool to teach, I was nervous and the class could have benefited from some music as well as a more thorough warm-up, but overall I liked the structure and at least one student pulled off the technique I taught.

Kind of a big milestone for me, I’m only a blue belt but I enjoyed the opportunity.

Congratulations, Bram, that’s awesome!

[quote]Mouldsie wrote:
Anyone want to critique my schedule? I have a lot of time restraints but I’ve worked hard on putting this together and want to make sure if I do something I do it right! I also run track and want to improve as a sprinter, so keep that in mind.

Monday - AM: Upper Body Lift / PM: Sprint work

Tuesday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Wednesday - AM: Lower Body Lift / PM: Striking (or occasionally running) every Wed followed by BJJ every other Wednesday (school meetings)

Thursday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Friday - Need advice as I can choose between running, lifting, or a conditioning/flexibility class at the MMA gym (prob best) followed by a general MMA class if I’m still alive

Saturday - PM: Flag Football League… also have a BJJ option in the AM, and I may lift after football for grip strength and abs… the game itself serves as a good sprint/cardio workout!

Sunday - OFF: Watch football and chilllll out

  • Mon and Wed I also have a morning self defense class at school but that doesnt really count for much lol
  • Yoga, Tai Chi, and Pilates sessions will be sprinkled in throughout the weeks too

I have some fears of overtraining and may have to self regulate a bit if I’m burning out… but what are your thoughts? I want to get the fighting skills but also keep my work in the weight room and stay fast!

Still working on the weight sessions (might have to adjust to 3 a week yet try not to kill the joints) but here’s my thinking…

Upper Lifts:
Towel Chin-Ups (Back + Grip)
Knuckle Pushups, Depth Push-Ups, and/or DB Presses (Chest)
Bent Over Rows (Back)
Upright Row (Shoulder + Back)
DB Military Press / Arnolds (Shoulder)
Shrugs (Traps)
Dips (Tri’s)
Curls (Bi’s)

Lower Lifts:
One Arm DB Snatch (Lower + Shoulder)
Single Arm DB Clean and Jerk (Lower + Shoulder)
Bulgarian Squat (Lower)
Suitcase Deadlift (Lower + Abs)
Walking Lunges (Lower + Hips)
Seated Hip Abductor (Hips)
Band Leg Extension (Hips)
Hanging Leg Raises (Abs and Hips)
Calf Raises
Reverse Calf Raises

  • ab work and grip/wrist/forearm

I could def use some advice on the actual design of my work in the weight room! 2 or more sessions? Which exercises are optimal?
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Mouldsie, if you had to choose, what would you want to be, really? A sprinter, a striker, a wrestler, a big muscular guy, or a BJJ guy? I’m not that great at critiquing plans, but if you’re really doing everything on this list, I see some burnout in your future. Sorry.

Fun for me! No teaching, just training! Did a level 3/4 class (discovered I am rusty). Then sparred for an hour & a half with Caleb and Matt, round robin style. My discomfort with hitting my friends is finally fading. I never sparred Caleb before, and I’m quite fond of him, so I wasn’t sure how I’d feel about it. I knocked the shit out of that boy, and enjoyed it!! He gave it right back to me, too. Fun! I’ll have sweet dreams tonight, for sure.

Nice work bram.

Miss P thank you!

Mouldsie- that is allot of work- some of it redundant-

how long have you been training like that?

one week lol

im just getting into MMA, so i have a lot to sort out!

[quote]Miss Parker wrote:
Mouldsie wrote:
Anyone want to critique my schedule? I have a lot of time restraints but I’ve worked hard on putting this together and want to make sure if I do something I do it right! I also run track and want to improve as a sprinter, so keep that in mind.

Monday - AM: Upper Body Lift / PM: Sprint work

Tuesday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Wednesday - AM: Lower Body Lift / PM: Striking (or occasionally running) every Wed followed by BJJ every other Wednesday (school meetings)

Thursday - PM: Striking then Submission/No Gi Wrestling

Friday - Need advice as I can choose between running, lifting, or a conditioning/flexibility class at the MMA gym (prob best) followed by a general MMA class if I’m still alive

Saturday - PM: Flag Football League… also have a BJJ option in the AM, and I may lift after football for grip strength and abs… the game itself serves as a good sprint/cardio workout!

Sunday - OFF: Watch football and chilllll out

  • Mon and Wed I also have a morning self defense class at school but that doesnt really count for much lol
  • Yoga, Tai Chi, and Pilates sessions will be sprinkled in throughout the weeks too

I have some fears of overtraining and may have to self regulate a bit if I’m burning out… but what are your thoughts? I want to get the fighting skills but also keep my work in the weight room and stay fast!

Still working on the weight sessions (might have to adjust to 3 a week yet try not to kill the joints) but here’s my thinking…

Upper Lifts:
Towel Chin-Ups (Back + Grip)
Knuckle Pushups, Depth Push-Ups, and/or DB Presses (Chest)
Bent Over Rows (Back)
Upright Row (Shoulder + Back)
DB Military Press / Arnolds (Shoulder)
Shrugs (Traps)
Dips (Tri’s)
Curls (Bi’s)

Lower Lifts:
One Arm DB Snatch (Lower + Shoulder)
Single Arm DB Clean and Jerk (Lower + Shoulder)
Bulgarian Squat (Lower)
Suitcase Deadlift (Lower + Abs)
Walking Lunges (Lower + Hips)
Seated Hip Abductor (Hips)
Band Leg Extension (Hips)
Hanging Leg Raises (Abs and Hips)
Calf Raises
Reverse Calf Raises

  • ab work and grip/wrist/forearm

I could def use some advice on the actual design of my work in the weight room! 2 or more sessions? Which exercises are optimal?

Mouldsie, if you had to choose, what would you want to be, really? A sprinter, a striker, a wrestler, a big muscular guy, or a BJJ guy? I’m not that great at critiquing plans, but if you’re really doing everything on this list, I see some burnout in your future. Sorry.[/quote]
Good question, I pursue a lot of interests, sometimes too many!

A sprinter with an athletic body and a solid overall fighting game.

Burnout is not my friend… I was lifitng 4 times a week and doing MMA 4 times a week in the summer plus two jobs and I was exhausted… I figure cutting lifts back to 2 a week will help, and believe it or not my workload in the fall/winter is less than summer.

If that gets me “overtrained” too then I guess I’ll have to prioritize more!

I can focus on more MMA after I graduate (aka no more track) I suppose.

Trying to figure out what I want to do after my first real break from wrestling in 4 years.

Wrestling is of course my first love, and I will continue at the very least to coach kids with my friend once he gets back from Basic, which sadly I have no idea when that will be. Right now im biking a lot, as the leaves are changing and its gorgeous. Vanity got the better of me and I just got done doing the 50 pullups/100 pushups program and am happy with the results (I now almost have cleavage, but am still a skinny bastard and will always be so). I can’t decide if I want to add boxing, muay thai, judo, or BJJ. I pretty much have to pick one, as going to the MMMA academy is out of the question (too far away, I don’t have a car, expensive as shit) and the only other place that offers all these is the Warriors Cove, and I was very unimpressed when I checked the place out. I’m going to go check out some boxing gyms tomorrow, we’ll see how I like them. There aren’t really any muay thai places near me that I know of, so thats out of the question. I’de rather do Judo than BJJ, as it seems like more fun (and I liked throws more than shots in wrestling), and I know a good place to go train, where my good friend, whos a PAN AM team member and national judoka champion or whatnot used to train before going to college in Chicago, and I am close with his family and they train there. I would like to get competitive again at something. I’m thinking of doing some open wrestling tournaments near where I live (one not so near, steven’s point wisconsin) but those are a bit off in the future.
/endrant

Boxing or Judo, hopefully some wrestling in the future, at least 15 hours of biking a week, 50 pullups and 100 pushups a day (thinking of changing it to 50 dips?) and just yesterday I did my first muscle up. I need to figure out where to train…

BJJ practice today. Worked on breaking down guard, armbars, and submissions. Did some conditioning, then did sparring for the last 45 minutes of class. Rolled with the most experienced wrestler, was able to pass guard and get into side mount, but couldn’t quite finish him. My lungs were on fire after today. Great session.

Sparred 1 hour with Heath yesterday, I didn’t do as well as last time, but, well, that’s it. Heath is the one I have the most trouble hitting & I regressed a little there. He was trying to get me cranked up so while we were chatting between rounds he rushed me & I completely involuntarily screamed like a little girl & backed up. WTF?! Continued to improve on the ground, though, so I felt redeemed there.

Looks like I’ll be doing a ride-along with one of the cops I train with next week on the midnight shift in one of the worst parts of town. I’m kinda scared, but excited, too. I was thinking recently that I’m training these cops & soldiers, but I have no idea what their lives really look like, so I’m doing some ride-alongs & Heath finally let me sit in on a law enforcement training class, which they never let civilians watch, even instructors. After the class I said, “Oh, sweetie, thank you so much!! Can I come again next week?” “Nope!”

No training this weekend, I’m off to the Austin City Limits music festival! Woo hoo!

MISS PARKER were do i find a chick like u lol seriously we have like no mma chixs around here we got 1 female in my three classes and well shes got the personality of a block of wood! My fiance supports me but hate what i do and we argue about it constantly it will be the end of us!

[quote]WRATHfight69 wrote:
MISS PARKER were do i find a chick like u lol seriously we have like no mma chixs around here we got 1 female in my three classes and well shes got the personality of a block of wood! My fiance supports me but hate what i do and we argue about it constantly it will be the end of us! [/quote]

You’re sweet to say that, Wrath. I’m sorry your fiance & you are fighting about your training. It’s going to be important for y’all to find a balance between your two positions.

[quote]Miss Parker wrote:

Looks like I’ll be doing a ride-along with one of the cops I train with next week on the midnight shift in one of the worst parts of town. I’m kinda scared, but excited, too. [/quote]

you are doing a ride along because you are considering LE or because you are just plain interested?