MMA Training Hub II

Training
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[quote]Steve-O-68 wrote:
The Judo tournament yesterday was a lot of fun. Took third in my weight class. Won 2, lost 2. My bracket was tough. We were running on 2 mats, and I ended up fighting 4 rounds in 15 minutes. I lost my first match, but my coach said it should have been mine. I threw my opponent, but the ref gave him a wazari because of the way that we landed. Then he north/southed me (worst position ever!) until time ran out.

I won my 2nd match with an ipon… single leg takedown with a foot sweep. I won my 3rd match on points… I scored a wazari with a bench throw with 5 seconds left in the round. I lost my 4th match on points. My opponent dropped me with a single leg takedown then pinned me. My arms somehow ended up in his gi which left me unable to figure out a way to escape.

There were several opportunities that I missed and I got seriously gasses, so I know there are some things to work on for the state championships in Oct. But overall, I was pleased with how things went.[/quote]

Congratulations on your wins, Steve-o! Good luck in October!

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[quote]Miss Parker wrote:
Steve-O-68 wrote:
The Judo tournament yesterday was a lot of fun. Took third in my weight class. Won 2, lost 2. My bracket was tough. We were running on 2 mats, and I ended up fighting 4 rounds in 15 minutes. I lost my first match, but my coach said it should have been mine. I threw my opponent, but the ref gave him a wazari because of the way that we landed. Then he north/southed me (worst position ever!) until time ran out.

I won my 2nd match with an ipon… single leg takedown with a foot sweep. I won my 3rd match on points… I scored a wazari with a bench throw with 5 seconds left in the round. I lost my 4th match on points. My opponent dropped me with a single leg takedown then pinned me. My arms somehow ended up in his gi which left me unable to figure out a way to escape.

There were several opportunities that I missed and I got seriously gasses, so I know there are some things to work on for the state championships in Oct. But overall, I was pleased with how things went.

Congratulations on your wins, Steve-o! Good luck in October![/quote]

Hey, thanks!

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Hey guys looking for some input, for the last couple of months I have been taking boxing at a local gym 3x a week and lifting weights 3x a week. However for the next two months I am going to be out of state and will not be boxing, will still have access to a gym.

My plan is switch over to a plan for strength and max endurance so when I get back I can incorporate the boxing back in and be better prepared for a more intense training shedule. I am not too focused on size but, I figure with strength comes muscle.

My question is what kind of weekly schedule would be best for my goals? My stats are 5’10.5, 175lbs, I am not sure about my BF, it is low enough that I can see my abs and the separation in my quads. I know this might not be the best thread to post in since I won’t have any real training for 2 months but, I read Training Hub 1 and saw that most were incorporating the strength and conditioning.

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I’ve just got into martial arts and I want to get in good shape for it while learning basics. Do you think I would be overtraining if I did energy systems/conditioning/gpp or whatever you call it every day along with weights training and mma basics alternating? Plus one rest day.
Conditioning- sprints, circuits involving tyre flips/sledge drag etc., heavy bag intervals, bodyweight circuits
Weights- compound moves and advanced bodyweight moves
Mma basics- kickboxing and ju jitsu with some muay Thai and wrestling.

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My training history is various strength routines eg. starting strength, regular running and circuits

Also I will include core or grip in my weights

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[quote]maverick88 wrote:
Hey guys looking for some input, for the last couple of months I have been taking boxing at a local gym 3x a week and lifting weights 3x a week. However for the next two months I am going to be out of state and will not be boxing, will still have access to a gym.

My plan is switch over to a plan for strength and max endurance so when I get back I can incorporate the boxing back in and be better prepared for a more intense training shedule. I am not too focused on size but, I figure with strength comes muscle.

My question is what kind of weekly schedule would be best for my goals? My stats are 5’10.5, 175lbs, I am not sure about my BF, it is low enough that I can see my abs and the separation in my quads. I know this might not be the best thread to post in since I won’t have any real training for 2 months but, I read Training Hub 1 and saw that most were incorporating the strength and conditioning.[/quote]

I’m sure your new gym has a jumprope and a mirror. Do plenty of jumping rope and plenty of shadowboxing, and you’ll be able to at least maintain the skill you’ve built until you can get back in the gym.

As far as your lifting, you should clarify a little more. You want more strength, but max endurance? Those generally don’t go hand in hand if you’re talking about ME strength. Max endurance strength, if that’s what you want, doesn’t tend to go with gaining size. I know you said you don’t really care about size, but you seemed like you wouldn’t mind (who would)… so I think you need to figure out really what you want to do first. Then we can help you better.

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[quote]Needforspeed wrote:
I’ve just got into martial arts and I want to get in good shape for it while learning basics. Do you think I would be overtraining if I did energy systems/conditioning/gpp or whatever you call it every day along with weights training and mma basics alternating? Plus one rest day.
Conditioning- sprints, circuits involving tyre flips/sledge drag etc., heavy bag intervals, bodyweight circuits
Weights- compound moves and advanced bodyweight moves
Mma basics- kickboxing and ju jitsu with some muay Thai and wrestling.[/quote]

Yes, probably too much. Did you not read through the thread before you posted? Did you not see how WRATHfight69 got chewed out for claiming such a full on schedule? Did you you not see that he said he’s been at it for a while now and he feels like a walking zombie?

In my opinion, I’d completely drop a day of conditioning/weights to give yourself an extra day of rest.
Especially if you’re only just starting out.

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[quote]Yes, probably too much. Did you not read through the thread before you posted? Did you not see how WRATHfight69 got chewed out for claiming such a full on schedule? Did you you not see that he said he’s been at it for a while now and he feels like a walking zombie?

In my opinion, I’d completely drop a day of conditioning/weights to give yourself an extra day of rest.
Especially if you’re only just starting out.
[/quote]

i didnt think there was any chewining goin on, the guys who responded had very valid points no one answered my original quetion though so i just took last sat off to chill withm my son n play with my daughter and i feel fine. And for those of you in my situation try makin your family part of your goal i take my gf and my oldest daughter with me all the time 2 my practices and as long as they stay out of the way my coaches dont care and ya i shortened my schedual up a little bit im mou only grapplin 7 hours a week instead off instead of 12 so that helps a little plus i hate t.v

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Yeah but I thought mine was less work then his so it might be alright. I’ll try it with a day midweek off and see how it goes from their

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Well ok, maybe not chewed out. But regardless, the point was made that the schedule was too full on. I’m glad you’ve taken an extra day off. I’m glad that you’ve dropped some grappling too, I really hope that it helps your recovery, and gives you more time for the family.
I believe I answered your original question fairly comprehensively, I gave several idea of how to cut out some work while still achieving your goals. But, you know, whatever, you’ve come up with a reasonable solution anyhow.

Needforspeed- Yeah, your proposed work load was probably a little less. But my point still stands, I believe, look at what others are doing. A lot of the time the maxim “less is more” can be appropriate. I guess it depends on how long you are doing each of your proposed activities-
Exactly how many days of weights, how long spent on conditioning, how long do the mma classes run for? What else do you do with your time-
are you a student? or work a job? Have you been lifting weights and doing energy systems work? For how long? How many days a week/hours?

Anyhow, on the surface, it looks like too much to me. There’s no harm is starting with a little less, if it gets a 6-9 weeks in and you feel like you can handle more, prioritize your goals and add extra work.

Peace

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
maverick88 wrote:
Hey guys looking for some input, for the last couple of months I have been taking boxing at a local gym 3x a week and lifting weights 3x a week. However for the next two months I am going to be out of state and will not be boxing, will still have access to a gym.

My plan is switch over to a plan for strength and max endurance so when I get back I can incorporate the boxing back in and be better prepared for a more intense training shedule. I am not too focused on size but, I figure with strength comes muscle.

My question is what kind of weekly schedule would be best for my goals? My stats are 5’10.5, 175lbs, I am not sure about my BF, it is low enough that I can see my abs and the separation in my quads. I know this might not be the best thread to post in since I won’t have any real training for 2 months but, I read Training Hub 1 and saw that most were incorporating the strength and conditioning.

I’m sure your new gym has a jumprope and a mirror. Do plenty of jumping rope and plenty of shadowboxing, and you’ll be able to at least maintain the skill you’ve built until you can get back in the gym.

As far as your lifting, you should clarify a little more. You want more strength, but max endurance? Those generally don’t go hand in hand if you’re talking about ME strength. Max endurance strength, if that’s what you want, doesn’t tend to go with gaining size. I know you said you don’t really care about size, but you seemed like you wouldn’t mind (who would)… so I think you need to figure out really what you want to do first. Then we can help you better.[/quote]

Sorry what i meant is that I would like strength and conditioning. I have always followed a more BB approach to lifting but, when I started boxing I found that the sorenes was not allowing me to train properly (Boxing/complexes). I figure that a strength routing would get me stronger with out leaving me sore for days. Howveer I have never followed a strength routine or incorporated conditioning into a weekly schedule. That is where I need the help.

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[quote]WRATHfight69 wrote:
Yes, probably too much. Did you not read through the thread before you posted? Did you not see how WRATHfight69 got chewed out for claiming such a full on schedule? Did you you not see that he said he’s been at it for a while now and he feels like a walking zombie?.

i didnt think there was any chewining goin on, the guys who responded had very valid points no one answered my original quetion though so i just took last sat off to chill withm my son n play with my daughter and i feel fine. And for those of you in my situation try makin your family part of your goal i take my gf and my oldest daughter with me all the time 2 my practices and as long as they stay out of the way my coaches dont care and ya i shortened my schedual up a little bit im mou only grapplin 7 hours a week instead off instead of 12 so that helps a little plus i hate t.v [/quote]

No one answered your question cause it was a little ridiculous, If not unbelievable.
With out commenting on your spelling, conjugation, or life choice, it seemed a little
too troll like.

there.

Now to be nice I would suggest

prioritizing your junk.
Family
Job TBC thats taking care of business, you know the cash flow shit.
Training

then in the sub sets
how many classes can a family man afford?
and how much training can you do , before it impacts your recovery.
or are sleeping in the garage.

Train realistically
every one would love to train and fight.
right?
but are you looking at some cash for fighting?
sprawl call you up with a deal?
then make a fun hobby.
Its ok to have a hobby.

here is your new training schedule

get up early, but you have two small kids so I bet your up already.

well call this A

go out side, do some walking lunges, like a blocks worth.
do some sprints like 10 x sewer to sewer
do some plyo pushups, like 4x what ever make it allot
go to work
that night take ONE class. 1.

the next day get up and go to the gym
well call this B

A snatch grip deads
B bulgarian split squats
C1 weighted pullups
C2 db floor press
D hanging leg raises feet to bar

next day OFF except for work and family.
eat like a bear.

day 3 well call this C
stagger outside.
do some walking lunges
up the block
body weight squat tabata
sprints 10x sewer to sewer
maybe more I dont know how long your sewers are.

go to work

take one class of what ever

Day Four
Get up drag your ass to the gym

well call this D

A Front squat Big
B jump squat ( super light)
C1 One arm DB snatch
C2 DB swings
D wood chop

go to work,
take a class.

there you made it through the week.
on the weekends I would help with the laundry
play and nap with the kids.

each work out should be accompanied with a good mobility warm up.
some shoulder health shit in the form of ytwl and face pulls
you need to foam roll , and use ice

vary the volume and load.
make the weights match the reps

week one 4x3 on the big lifts accessory 4x8
week two 4x8 on the big lifts accessory 4x10
week three 3x12 on the big and accessory 4x 15
week four deload 3x6 on the big (light) and 4x8 light
deload means really dealod and use light shit

if its snowing and that scares you instead of going outside
you can jump rope/shadow box for time inside.

there you have it.

print this put it on your fridge when you can handle this volume

ad a class or two either on the weekend or the Wednesday the off day.

kmc

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[quote]maverick88 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
maverick88 wrote:
Hey guys looking for some input, for the last couple of months I have been taking boxing at a local gym 3x a week and lifting weights 3x a week. However for the next two months I am going to be out of state and will not be boxing, will still have access to a gym.

My plan is switch over to a plan for strength and max endurance so when I get back I can incorporate the boxing back in and be better prepared for a more intense training shedule. I am not too focused on size but, I figure with strength comes muscle.

My question is what kind of weekly schedule would be best for my goals? My stats are 5’10.5, 175lbs, I am not sure about my BF, it is low enough that I can see my abs and the separation in my quads. I know this might not be the best thread to post in since I won’t have any real training for 2 months but, I read Training Hub 1 and saw that most were incorporating the strength and conditioning.

I’m sure your new gym has a jumprope and a mirror. Do plenty of jumping rope and plenty of shadowboxing, and you’ll be able to at least maintain the skill you’ve built until you can get back in the gym.

As far as your lifting, you should clarify a little more. You want more strength, but max endurance? Those generally don’t go hand in hand if you’re talking about ME strength. Max endurance strength, if that’s what you want, doesn’t tend to go with gaining size. I know you said you don’t really care about size, but you seemed like you wouldn’t mind (who would)… so I think you need to figure out really what you want to do first. Then we can help you better.

Sorry what i meant is that I would like strength and conditioning. I have always followed a more BB approach to lifting but, when I started boxing I found that the sorenes was not allowing me to train properly (Boxing/complexes). I figure that a strength routing would get me stronger with out leaving me sore for days. Howveer I have never followed a strength routine or incorporated conditioning into a weekly schedule. That is where I need the help.[/quote]

here you go little fellow

start reading , both sites are excellent.

kmc

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[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
maverick88 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
maverick88 wrote:
Hey guys looking for some input, for the last couple of months I have been taking boxing at a local gym 3x a week and lifting weights 3x a week. However for the next two months I am going to be out of state and will not be boxing, will still have access to a gym.

My plan is switch over to a plan for strength and max endurance so when I get back I can incorporate the boxing back in and be better prepared for a more intense training shedule. I am not too focused on size but, I figure with strength comes muscle.

My question is what kind of weekly schedule would be best for my goals? My stats are 5’10.5, 175lbs, I am not sure about my BF, it is low enough that I can see my abs and the separation in my quads. I know this might not be the best thread to post in since I won’t have any real training for 2 months but, I read Training Hub 1 and saw that most were incorporating the strength and conditioning.

I’m sure your new gym has a jumprope and a mirror. Do plenty of jumping rope and plenty of shadowboxing, and you’ll be able to at least maintain the skill you’ve built until you can get back in the gym.

As far as your lifting, you should clarify a little more. You want more strength, but max endurance? Those generally don’t go hand in hand if you’re talking about ME strength. Max endurance strength, if that’s what you want, doesn’t tend to go with gaining size. I know you said you don’t really care about size, but you seemed like you wouldn’t mind (who would)… so I think you need to figure out really what you want to do first. Then we can help you better.

Sorry what i meant is that I would like strength and conditioning. I have always followed a more BB approach to lifting but, when I started boxing I found that the sorenes was not allowing me to train properly (Boxing/complexes). I figure that a strength routing would get me stronger with out leaving me sore for days. Howveer I have never followed a strength routine or incorporated conditioning into a weekly schedule. That is where I need the help.

here you go little fellow

start reading , both sites are excellent.

kmc[/quote]

Pretty much. I don’t like telling people how to schedule workouts and all because my own is so all over the place… but Enamait gives the best info out there.

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[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
WRATHfight69 wrote:
Yes, probably too much. Did you not read through the thread before you posted? Did you not see how WRATHfight69 got chewed out for claiming such a full on schedule? Did you you not see that he said he’s been at it for a while now and he feels like a walking zombie?.

i didnt think there was any chewining goin on, the guys who responded had very valid points no one answered my original quetion though so i just took last sat off to chill withm my son n play with my daughter and i feel fine. And for those of you in my situation try makin your family part of your goal i take my gf and my oldest daughter with me all the time 2 my practices and as long as they stay out of the way my coaches dont care and ya i shortened my schedual up a little bit im mou only grapplin 7 hours a week instead off instead of 12 so that helps a little plus i hate t.v

No one answered your question cause it was a little ridiculous, If not unbelievable.
With out commenting on your spelling, conjugation, or life choice, it seemed a little
too troll like.

there.

Now to be nice I would suggest

prioritizing your junk.
Family
Job TBC thats taking care of business, you know the cash flow shit.
Training

then in the sub sets
how many classes can a family man afford?
and how much training can you do , before it impacts your recovery.
or are sleeping in the garage.

Train realistically
every one would love to train and fight.
right?
but are you looking at some cash for fighting?
sprawl call you up with a deal?
then make a fun hobby.
Its ok to have a hobby.

here is your new training schedule

get up early, but you have two small kids so I bet your up already.

well call this A

go out side, do some walking lunges, like a blocks worth.
do some sprints like 10 x sewer to sewer
do some plyo pushups, like 4x what ever make it allot
go to work
that night take ONE class. 1.

the next day get up and go to the gym
well call this B

A snatch grip deads
B bulgarian split squats
C1 weighted pullups
C2 db floor press
D hanging leg raises feet to bar

next day OFF except for work and family.
eat like a bear.

day 3 well call this C
stagger outside.
do some walking lunges
up the block
body weight squat tabata
sprints 10x sewer to sewer
maybe more I dont know how long your sewers are.

go to work

take one class of what ever

Day Four
Get up drag your ass to the gym

well call this D

A Front squat Big
B jump squat ( super light)
C1 One arm DB snatch
C2 DB swings
D wood chop

go to work,
take a class.

there you made it through the week.
on the weekends I would help with the laundry
play and nap with the kids.

each work out should be accompanied with a good mobility warm up.
some shoulder health shit in the form of ytwl and face pulls
you need to foam roll , and use ice

vary the volume and load.
make the weights match the reps

week one 4x3 on the big lifts accessory 4x8
week two 4x8 on the big lifts accessory 4x10
week three 3x12 on the big and accessory 4x 15
week four deload 3x6 on the big (light) and 4x8 light
deload means really dealod and use light shit
if its snowing and that scares you instead of going outside
you can jump rope/shadow box for time inside.
there you have it.
print this put it on your fridge when you can handle this volume
ad a class or two either on the weekend or the Wednesday the off day.
kmc
[/quote]

Wow man you do know kick’n a dead horse wont get the glue out of it faster right? Well dude ill give it to ya straight, yes we can all tell youve prolly been doin this a few years thats great for you. Weve got a great sport and something we can all converge and talk about. But in the long run the truth is your grand sceme of a workout stoped being a challange for me @ 15. I have been throwin punches since i was 6 years old and weight since i was 12 so ya naw your masterpiece wont be printed less i feel like pissin on it for entertainment…naw aint worth the paper. I have a truly sufficiant workout that suits me and im doin absolutely fine with my classes now. My family supports me pushes me foward and gives me the resolve to always over come! As for gettin my shit straight life aint that hard to manage for me really with me and my girl we make just about enough to afford…well damn near anything we could ever want! well except the 2005 camaro i want down the street from us. But I digress, so for my spelling hmmm try lookin over ye ol’ grammer dude and personally believe i can write anything however the fuck i please snazzy yo? Oh 1 last thing “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” i just thought id let ya know what it sounded like when i read your post!

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[quote]WRATHfight69 wrote:

Wow man you do know kick’n a dead horse wont get the glue out of it faster right? Well dude ill give it to ya straight, yes we can all tell youve prolly been doin this a few years thats great for you. Weve got a great sport and something we can all converge and talk about. But in the long run the truth is your grand sceme of a workout stoped being a challange for me @ 15. I have been throwin punches since i was 6 years old and weight since i was 12 so ya naw your masterpiece wont be printed less i feel like pissin on it for entertainment…naw aint worth the paper. I have a truly sufficiant workout that suits me and im doin absolutely fine with my classes now. My family supports me pushes me foward and gives me the resolve to always over come! As for gettin my shit straight life aint that hard to manage for me really with me and my girl we make just about enough to afford…well damn near anything we could ever want! well except the 2005 camaro i want down the street from us. But I digress, so for my spelling hmmm try lookin over ye ol’ grammer dude and personally believe i can write anything however the fuck i please snazzy yo? Oh 1 last thing “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” i just thought id let ya know what it sounded like when i read your post![/quote]

You probably just made yourself very unpopular. Don’t be surprised if no-one ever offers you any kind of advice in the future, if that’s how you’re going to receive it-

God forbid that anyone actually give you the advice you were looking for.
You obviously think that you’re the expert. You obviously came here to boast bullshit schedules so that everyone would bow down and worship your awesome he-manliness, sorry that didn’t happen.

Good luck with the training, I’m sure we’ll see you, UFC champ, no time.

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[quote]tassietaekwon wrote:
WRATHfight69 wrote:

Wow man you do know kick’n a dead horse wont get the glue out of it faster right? Well dude ill give it to ya straight, yes we can all tell youve prolly been doin this a few years thats great for you. Weve got a great sport and something we can all converge and talk about. But in the long run the truth is your grand sceme of a workout stoped being a challange for me @ 15. I have been throwin punches since i was 6 years old and weight since i was 12 so ya naw your masterpiece wont be printed less i feel like pissin on it for entertainment…naw aint worth the paper. I have a truly sufficiant workout that suits me and im doin absolutely fine with my classes now. My family supports me pushes me foward and gives me the resolve to always over come! As for gettin my shit straight life aint that hard to manage for me really with me and my girl we make just about enough to afford…well damn near anything we could ever want! well except the 2005 camaro i want down the street from us. But I digress, so for my spelling hmmm try lookin over ye ol’ grammer dude and personally believe i can write anything however the fuck i please snazzy yo? Oh 1 last thing “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” i just thought id let ya know what it sounded like when i read your post!

You probably just made yourself very unpopular. Don’t be surprised if no-one ever offers you any kind of advice in the future, if that’s how you’re going to receive it-

God forbid that anyone actually give you the advice you were looking for.
You obviously think that you’re the expert. You obviously came here to boast bullshit schedules so that everyone would bow down and worship your awesome he-manliness, sorry that didn’t happen.

Good luck with the training, I’m sure we’ll see you, UFC champ, no time.
[/quote]

ya well if ya read the whole thread i had already mentioned that i had already solved my problem and for any kind of strength or conditioning, I never asked anyones oppinion on it he just shoved it in there for the fuck of it hell he didnt even spit on it haha! People playin the all knowin role dont fly buy me and you guys shouldnt be gettin pissed at my schedual get the fuck over it im doin what i have to to attain my goals those who cant believe it just dont believe they themselves could do it. Sorry but its in my blood ive always pushed myself hard.
As for expert oh hell no im goin for personal trainer certification in december but we’ll see about that them but i do know how my body works better than some wise guy tryn sound like a genius on a keyboard!

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Um, wow, I thought it was really generous of kmcnyc to go through the trouble to write all that stuff out, and that it was sound advice. Anyway…

Did an hour of sparring this morning with GB & an hour in the afternoon with G. I am battered & sore, but for once, they kind of are, too. YAY! I’m finally starting to see a little progress. G surprised me by picking me up & running across the room with me, dropped me in a big pile of pads & trapped me there shoved against the wall & pads. Surprise rape scenario. He was driving hard & I had a hard time getting my knees together to shove him off as my shin guards were getting in the way, but I’d have to deal with obstacles if it were real, so I have to deal with that. Relentless saw what we were doing & ran to get the video camera. He promises he’ll send it to me - if its good I’ll post it, as I have a feeling I’m doing some different stuff than y’all are. I got scolded repeatedly for not stomping his head in as a finisher. I said, "he’s “unconscious, look at him!” They said, “What if he’s faking! He just tried to rape you! Stomp him! WTF!”

Awesome thing happened today: Just before the afternoon session a guy came in to inquire about MMA classes. I asked him if he’d trained before. He said he’d trained for about 9 years. Okay. I asked if he concentrated on BJJ or standup. Long pause. “Well,” says he, “I pretty much consider myself a 7th degree black belt in MMA”. True fucking story. I politely said, “Oh, well, that’s great. Why don’t you come to the 7:45 MMA class? It’s free.” He said he would. No show, I think, they guys are on their way to pick me up to go to a new sports bar, I’ll find out then.

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[quote]WRATHfight69 wrote:
Wow man you do know kick’n a dead horse wont get the glue out of it faster right? Well dude ill give it to ya straight, yes we can all tell youve prolly been doin this a few years thats great for you. Weve got a great sport and something we can all converge and talk about. But in the long run the truth is your grand sceme of a workout stoped being a challange for me @ 15. I have been throwin punches since i was 6 years old and weight since i was 12 so ya naw your masterpiece wont be printed less i feel like pissin on it for entertainment…naw aint worth the paper. I have a truly sufficiant workout that suits me and im doin absolutely fine with my classes now. My family supports me pushes me foward and gives me the resolve to always over come! As for gettin my shit straight life aint that hard to manage for me really with me and my girl we make just about enough to afford…well damn near anything we could ever want! well except the 2005 camaro i want down the street from us. But I digress, so for my spelling hmmm try lookin over ye ol’ grammer dude and personally believe i can write anything however the fuck i please snazzy yo? Oh 1 last thing “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” i just thought id let ya know what it sounded like when i read your post![/quote]

  1. Represent.
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I posted it cause his imaginary training is too much.
and word
2009 in da house.