When on a bulk phase, milk is an invaluable tool. Also, don’t skimp on nutrients by buying skim milk, go with 100% whole milk. The fat in whole milk aids in the absorption of vitamins present in it and adds to your daily calories.
However, if you’re on a cutting phase, i find that its best to cut out all dairy.
[quote]Slay the Dragon wrote:
When on a bulk phase, milk is an invaluable tool. Also, don’t skimp on nutrients by buying skim milk, go with 100% whole milk. The fat in whole milk aids in the absorption of vitamins present in it and adds to your daily calories.
However, if you’re on a cutting phase, i find that its best to cut out all dairy. [/quote]
I agree with the whole milk. The reason I don’t drink it is because it’s so much thicker and filling than skim. I can drink twice as much skim and it has roughly the same amount of protein. IMO, if one is getting enough dietary fats elsewhere, I see little need for whole milkunless you want the extra calories. I’ll cycle through (skim to 2% to whole) when I’m ramping calories up, but other than that, I stick to skim. I find that I can drink all the skim I want and be a little more flexible in my diet while still staying lean.
Slight hijack (sorry), I think milks great i would drink whole milk every day BUT if i drink whole milk i pass out pretty rapidly! semi skimmed/skimmed i can drink, i go through a gallon or so a day, but whole milk still sends me unconscious.
anybody got any thoughts on this? it seem to be inherited, my father reacts in the same way as do several cousins!
[quote]antman wrote:
Slight hijack (sorry), I think milks great i would drink whole milk every day BUT if i drink whole milk i pass out pretty rapidly! semi skimmed/skimmed i can drink, i go through a gallon or so a day, but whole milk still sends me unconscious.
anybody got any thoughts on this? it seem to be inherited, my father reacts in the same way as do several cousins![/quote]
Everyone tolerates dairy differently. I’m not expert, but maybe you’re somewhat lactose intolernt which could be inherited or aquired. I’m not sure if there are different levels of it or not, but I’m the same way. Whole milk makes me feel sick and bloated after one glass, where I can drink a quart of skim and feel like I only drank water.
I’m all about the benefits of whole milk, but I’m not gonna feel like crap all day from drinking it. That’s why I stick to skim for the majority and occationally throw in whole if I need the calories.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Hawkguy wrote:
I think anything with the nutritional benefits of milk should be consumed in excess, especially if you can tolerate it and need extra protein and cals. A gallon of skim has over 2000 calories. I’m not a huge fan of eggs so I drink a lot of milk to make up for them. I drink a minimum a quart a day of skim and more if I’m out of whey protein. To me, skim is like protein water, just a little thicker. Goes down smooth without making you feel bloated and full. Tall glass is 15-20 grams of protein, so why not drink milk?
I’m glad you’re not eating eggs. Eggs are made to give chicken embryos nourishment to develop and hatch. If you are not a growing chicken, you shouldn’t eat eggs.[/quote]
Eggs cause death anyway. I read it on MSN.
does milk really deserve another thread on these forums, jesus, use the search function before posting…
milk + heavy lifting + intensity will = muscle, so, yes, milk is good.
Its not a body building thing…
The reason i said ‘personal’ is because im not telling you guys to not drink it… If your drinkin it and it feels good for you, great. I feel much better that i dont use milk anymore. I get bad sinus from milk.
Zap Branigan: Good point.
III eat the meat, i just dont do milk, doesnt feel right with me.
OP, if your unsure about milk, try it out, see how your goals are coming along with it in your diet. Find out for yourself.
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
does milk really deserve another thread on these forums, jesus, use the search function before posting…
milk + heavy lifting + intensity will = muscle, so, yes, milk is good.[/quote]
seriously… apparently “milk = evil” is the new fad. insulin, lactose intolerance, carbs…
drink coke. tired of these threads.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Hawkguy wrote:
I think anything with the nutritional benefits of milk should be consumed in excess, especially if you can tolerate it and need extra protein and cals. A gallon of skim has over 2000 calories. I’m not a huge fan of eggs so I drink a lot of milk to make up for them. I drink a minimum a quart a day of skim and more if I’m out of whey protein. To me, skim is like protein water, just a little thicker. Goes down smooth without making you feel bloated and full. Tall glass is 15-20 grams of protein, so why not drink milk?
I’m glad you’re not eating eggs. Eggs are made to give chicken embryos nourishment to develop and hatch. If you are not a growing chicken, you shouldn’t eat eggs.
Eggs cause death anyway. I read it on MSN.[/quote]
i heard water does too, better to fill up on insulin-spiking juice
drink your damn milk.
Milk is badass. Drink lots of milk all the time. If you don’t like it or it makes you shit then don’t drink it.
Why such paranoia about milk?
I rarely consume milk other than with oatmeal in the morning. I really like other milk products though - cottage cheese, yogurt, kefir, cheese. I’ve read that milk products (yogurt/kefir) are way easier for a human to absorb compared to milk.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
paul496 wrote:
This is just a personal reason why i dont drink milk.
Calf born 100 pounds. 2 years later 1000 pounds. Drank alot of milk.
Human born 5-10lbs. 21 years later 150 -200 lbs.
I personally believe that the only time humans should drink milk is when breast feeding. The milk of a cow is designed for the growth of its youth.
You dont need milk. There is so many other things you can have. If you say you need it for calcium, that bull. Its not that great for calcium, take a calcium supplement.
Again this is just a personal belief, i dont tell people not to drink it.
Holy crap. You don’t NEED a lot of things.
The goal in bodybuilding is to grow far beyond what you would be without any weight training…so by your own logic, the guy with that goal should be drinking milk like a fountain.
Did you even think this through before posting it?
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I knew before you even finished that prof x was going to straighten you out. Dude from your avatar drink your milk.
I try to drink a gallon of whole milk everyday.
This adds about 3200 calories to your diet. And it’s not that expensive.
I heard Brad Gillingham does this as well.
Has anyone else here ever attempted this?
Eggs…shit I eat about 10 a day…well the whites anyway…
Hey Milk in your everyday supermarkets are not what you think. Heres the reason. I was into the Super Squats diet and man i got fat however. I was drinking the gallon of walmart store milk. Then I read an article about milk verses Organic milk… your assembly line cows are hammered with estrogen in order to keep them producing lare quantities of milk. Lots and lots of the milk is loaded with estrogen. See the where Im going here. Now oranic, grass and grain, free range cows produce less milk but the quality is top notch. Im lactose intolerante and the organic milk never gave me a ounce of trouble in that area. Thats just me personally. It costs more but its all I buy now
Commercial milk is bad for you.
If you get it straight from the ‘teet’, it’s probably good for you.
The pasterization and homogenization totally destroys the milk.
Some people also get a lot of problems drinking commercial milk because the enzyme lactase (which exists naturally in milk) is destroyed. Because of this they’re “lactose intolerant”.
[quote]whoami wrote:
Commercial milk is bad for you.
If you get it straight from the ‘teet’, it’s probably good for you.
The pasterization and homogenization totally destroys the milk.[/quote]
I think this statement is over the top. I don’t dispute that safe raw milk is probably better, especially for those that have trouble handling milk but pasteurized milk still provides plenty of benefits for those that can digest it well.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
whoami wrote:
Commercial milk is bad for you.
If you get it straight from the ‘teet’, it’s probably good for you.
The pasterization and homogenization totally destroys the milk.
I think this statement is over the top. I don’t dispute that safe raw milk is probably better, especially for those that have trouble handling milk but pasteurized milk still provides plenty of benefits for those that can digest it well.
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I agree. “Straight from the teet” is the way to go, if you can afford it, but to say that commercialized milk is bad for you is overkill. It’s still provides plenty of nutrients and I’ve never heard anyone link health issues to the type of milk they drink.
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
does milk really deserve another thread on these forums, jesus, use the search function before posting…
milk + heavy lifting + intensity will = muscle, so, yes, milk is good.[/quote]
We need a T-Cell Milk.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
whoami wrote:
Commercial milk is bad for you.
If you get it straight from the ‘teet’, it’s probably good for you.
The pasterization and homogenization totally destroys the milk.
I think this statement is over the top. I don’t dispute that safe raw milk is probably better, especially for those that have trouble handling milk but pasteurized milk still provides plenty of benefits for those that can digest it well.
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I’m not claiming to be an expert. However, I believe that you can’t absorb the calcium in commercial milk. It’s also filled with dead bacteria and fat particles so small that they cross the intestinal wall. Doesn’t sound good to me.
There are tons more stuff about commercial milk that’s supposedly bad for you. I just can’t remember all of it.As I said, I’m no expert. I’ve just read some stuff, and never had it disproven. Commercial milk also makes me feel like shit and gives me TERRIBLE skin issues. I don’t think I’m “lactose intolerant” though. I never get any GI issues.