X, I gave you an inquiry on getting bigger. You didn’t respond? How come? Can’t you offer up some solid advice?
You’re right, 80 to 100 pound gains are seldom seen considering those gains take A LOT of drugs, which most people lifting don’t use.
Oh, and who is ADVISING people to miss meals?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, I gave you an inquiry on getting bigger. You didn’t respond? How come? Can’t you offer up some solid advice?
You’re right, 80 to 100 pound gains are seldom seen considering those gains take A LOT of drugs, which most people lifting don’t use. [/quote]
80-100# gains are EASY 66% of the US population can now advise X on what to do.
i wonder what is meant by junk food anyway? That is a vague term (are we talking about eating twizzlers or fast food which may have decent protein content)
in the end isn’t it mainly about protein intake? If you are a higher bodyfat, and have high enough protein intake, it will be like you cut for 1 day, you might just get a little bit leaner
missing protein target = getting weaker for sure though, at least thats been my experience… missing calories, I can still get stronger
In response to the Nate Green experiment, a lot of that LBM gain is muscle memory. He use to be a pretty solid 195, and started this experiment at 165-170.
Missing meals is a silly concept. What define’s a ‘meal’ is different for everyone. I know personally it’s easier for me to eat 4k worth of calories in a giant 3 hour eating window at night as opposed to little one’s all day, which makes me sleepy all the time and kills my appetite.
Also, since starting Carb-Backloading, using ‘junk’ food has gotten me a lot leaner then oats or brown rice ever did. And that’s with similar Macro ratios and caloric intake. Pancakes drneched in syrup and sweet tea seem to agree with my physique and performance goals more so then ‘low-GI’ carbs did.
Inb4 not big enough for an opinion
Inb4 doesn’t look big in a shirt
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Inb4 not big enough for an opinion
Inb4 doesn’t look big in a shirt[/quote]
Contrary to some’s belief, you don’t have to be big to offer good advice or simply input on what you like or what works for you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, this isn’t and has never been about just “making progress”. Yeah, 20lbs is good progress. 80lbs is freaking great progress. 100lbs is rarely seen without the person being obese…so when I speak of guys who got huge, I mean the ones who walk into the gym and everyone stares…not guys who fit the abercrombie mould and disappear in a t-shirt.
Yeah, if your goal isn’t to even be that big, maybe you can walk around missing meals and making it up later. No one who gets “holy shit” thrown at them when they leave the house did that though.
You are talking about guys who wouldn’t stand out much if they wore clothes unless they were tight as hell. That ain’t “really big” and never has been.[/quote]
Dedicated people of all sizes do NOT miss meals on purpose; it happens because of accident. No one plans on oversleeping, getting stuck in traffic for two hours when a ride usually takes half an hour, of staying late at work unexpectedly, of getting sick, or just getting stuck anywhere without food. You’re implying that people say it’s alright to miss meals. It isn’t but it happens by accident… and months or years worth of work isn’t gonna go down the drain because a meal is missed here and there. I remember Charles Glass said he had a client who lost 15 pounds from one meal (a guy who was likely drugged). Laughable!
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, I gave you an inquiry on getting bigger. You didn’t respond? How come? [/quote]
Because I generally find you irritating and no fun to debate with. I also have the opinion that you think reading some articles is the same as a college degree in biology and that you throw pseudoscience about how body fat relates to health around carelessly. You did want the truth, right?
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Must be awesome to always sit on a high horse. the fact that you can’t learn from others even if they haven’t achieved LEVEL 9 Paladin with the sword of destruction, is sad… then again you’re a level 9 Paladin
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? Who said I couldn’t learn anything from him? I am sure I can learn something from just about anyone. I said I have nothing against him but he isn’t that big…so no, if my goal was to get really big, he is not the guy I would run to first.
Stating that does not denote a high horse. That’s just reality.
Also, according to the poster above, he weighed over 190lbs initially…which sort of weakens your amazing “20lbs gain” story.
[quote]Michael Crehan wrote:
I think the negative hormonal response from junk food is very bad for progress. Eating the perfect meals builds more muscle. When I skip a meal because something important comes up, it just builds my hunger up even more, sometimes to the point where I can eat more in 1 meal later than I could have in 2 meals now and later. I put down almost 3000 cals in 2 hours yesterday. Not that I ever count cals, but I was talking to somebody today about what I ate yesterday so I added it up.
For me personally, when I eat large amounts, I have to eat in a relaxed setting or else my digestion and energy get fucked up.[/quote]
What is the specific hormonal response that occurs during eating “fast food” you called a negative hormonal response?
Look up negative feedback loop. If your body is having “negative hormonal responses”, you need to get checked out.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I also have the opinion that you think reading some articles is the same as a college degree in biology and that you throw pseudoscience about how body fat relates to health around carelessly. [/quote]
Where the hell did you get this from? Reading articles same as degree in biology? I have an undergrad in nutrion and masters in nutrition and exercise phys. Here’s the thing, none of those degrees have much to do with the application of bodybuilding nutrition considering most of the best BB coaches don’t have health related or life science degrees or any degrees at all.
LOL at throwing bodyfat levels and its relation to health around carelessly. I guess I’ll adjust my opinion on 20 to 30% levels.
Later.
Oh, by the way, asking someone their take on gaining isn’t debating. It’s simply asking what you advise. I like that chip on the shoulder.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, I gave you an inquiry on getting bigger. You didn’t respond? How come? [/quote]
Because I generally find you irritating and no fun to debate with. I also have the opinion that you think reading some articles is the same as a college degree in biology and that you throw pseudoscience about how body fat relates to health around carelessly. You did want the truth, right?[/quote]
LMAO - of course you won’t debate him - he challenges you and you suck at actually being challenged.
This guy is an RD with a masters in Sports Nutrition - you are the world’s dumbest motherfucker is you actually think you can throw dirt on him - his knowledge on nutrition blows your fat ass away.
You hate him just like you hate me, and Way, and Bonez and ANYONE who you can’t subjugate with your stupid bullying horseshit.
Fuck you.
Hey now! Be easy on the big Professor.
He actually calmed down quite a bit after his performance at Biotest HQ was shown in full color HD here.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
This guy is an RD with a masters in Sports Nutrition - you are the world’s dumbest motherfucker is you actually think you can throw dirt on him - his knowledge on nutrition blows your fat ass away. [/quote]
Given the track record of the RD industry in dealing with the obesity crisis, I’m not sure I’d take one’s word without supplementary evidence.
Regardless, appealing to authority isn’t a solid rhetorical strategy. If his knowledge on nutrition is superior, his posts will speak to that. His degree should be irrelevant.
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
This guy is an RD with a masters in Sports Nutrition - you are the world’s dumbest motherfucker is you actually think you can throw dirt on him - his knowledge on nutrition blows your fat ass away. [/quote]
Given the track record of the RD industry in dealing with the obesity crisis, I’m not sure I’d take one’s word without supplementary evidence.
Regardless, appealing to authority isn’t a solid rhetorical strategy. If his knowledge on nutrition is superior, his posts will speak to that. His degree should be irrelevant.[/quote]
Basically this. I mean, I have already gone back and forth with Brick many times before and we have even sent private emails to each other years back.
I have already responded to Brick recently in some of his posts…which is all I need to know arguing further is just using up time I could be using for tanning.
[quote]Myosin wrote:
Hey now! Be easy on the big Professor.
He actually calmed down quite a bit after his performance at Biotest HQ was shown in full color HD here.[/quote]
I thought I was the only one that noticed that, although Prof X has been ramping it back up as of late. He actually seemed a little humble after his performance at Biotest HQ.
Every now and then I have rewatched his “performance” when I need something to crack me up.
My personal favorites were when pushing the prowler X yells out “I got asthma” and quits. Hilarious!!
Also seeing CT doing his best to get X to perform walking lunges was classic too.
[quote]Myosin wrote:
Hey now! Be easy on the big Professor.
He actually calmed down quite a bit after his performance at Biotest HQ was shown in full color HD here.[/quote]
I’m supposed to be ashamed of something? I got to go to Colorado…by myself…and sleep in a hotel for free and train with CT. I loved it. Naw, I’m not exactly ashamed of my “performance in HD”.
I am amused by this though.
[quote]kg wrote:
[quote]Myosin wrote:
Hey now! Be easy on the big Professor.
He actually calmed down quite a bit after his performance at Biotest HQ was shown in full color HD here.[/quote]
I thought I was the only one that noticed that, although Prof X has been ramping it back up as of late. He actually seemed a little humble after his performance at Biotest HQ.
Every now and then I have rewatched his “performance” when I need something to crack me up.
My personal favorites were when pushing the prowler X yells out “I got asthma” and quits. Hilarious!!
Also seeing CT doing his best to get X to perform walking lunges was classic too.
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Where can I see this???
I’m here to defend junk food, because dirty foods can’t speak for themselves. If I’m honest though I probably hardly ever eat “junk food” if you define it as like bags of chips and cookies and stuff. I eat loads of fast food though, not sure if that counts. If given the choice between McDonald’s and “missing a meal” go get that McDonald’s every time I say!