Is This a Good Routine?

[quote]black_angus1 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Man, I just disagree with that. Whether that template will work well for him or not, there’s nothing wrong with high frequency. I’ve used it successfully for bench, deadlift, and squat. Besides, what else would you call Sheiko? And that’s a perfectly acceptable powerliftong routine for many people’s standards. There are guys lifting good tonnage with that plan too.

If you’re conditioned for the load, you can easily do something similar for raw lifters. My brother is an olympic lifter, he squats 5x5 four days a week, snatches 1.5x bodyweight, and he’s not dead yet. Yeah yeah, he’s not a powerlifter…doesn’t mean it’s instant death.[/quote]

That was sarcasm. I personally train 6x/week at the minimum, and typically 7x/week. This winter, I will be training 6x/week plus wrestling with my old high school. I am a huge proponent of high frequency training. High frequency is a constant in damn near every elite level lifter’s programming. As an example, Vogelpohl would train up to 14 times per week.[/quote]

Hahaha. Uber sarcasm detector fail on my part. I was tired. That’s a kickass way to train

[quote]fighterkhan wrote:
dunno man, i like oh pressing as much as the next guy, but i’m trying to become faster and more explosive at the same time…and looking at other olympic lifting routines it usually follows the same template

one classic lift followed by squatting or other lower body power movement, and ending with pressing or some core work [/quote]

Unless you’re an OLY lifter and have good technique at the lifts, which non-oly lifters never can perform right, I suggest getting faster and stronger in the main lifts. I would pick speed squats or speed deadlifts over a snatch for becoming explosive. I also don’t care how my oly lifts go, this is the PL forum.

Get faster by getting faster. Fast twitch fibers are easily built by lifting REALLY HEAVY things and being as coordinated in your speed work as possible (technique).

Anyway. You just want to become fast is all you really stated, and that you needed to gain weight? So you have the ultimate workout for… idk, list the goals you want so we can help you out man

Eh, the Olympic lifts don’t have to be perfect. As long as they look pretty much right, and you aren’t turning your snatches into power front raises, or cleans into power reverse curls, you’ll get enough benefit out of them. At worst, you get a bit more pulling volume in, and anything that involves putting a heavy weight overhead is awesome.

hey guys, as the new year inches closer, my planning is increasing for making the ultimate 15 week workout

these are some arbitrary numbers that i came up with!
if my training is a success, I will gain 20 lbs of muscle and I can potentially add 50 lb to my dead-lift…which is the major goal of this workout.

Note I didn’t put numbers up for the Olympic Lifts, as they will be just max effort aiming for the highest single rep. Right now I clean and jerk 205, want to make that 225, and snatch 185, and want to make it 205

dl
1 - 31510
2 - 315
10
3 - 3653
4 - deload (315
10)
5 - 3655
6 - 385
3
7 - 4051
8 - deload (315
15)
9 - 3855
10 - 405
3
11 - 4251
12 - deload (315
20)
13 - 4055
14 - 385
5
15 - 455*1

squat
1 - 3655
2 - 385
3
3 - 4051
4 - deload
5 - 385
5
6 - 4053
7 - 455
1
8 - deload
9 - 4055
10 - 455
3
11 - 4751
12 - deload
13 - 455
5
14 - 4753
15 - 500
1

bench press
1 - 2253
2 - 225
3
3 - 2255
4 - deload
5 - 255
3
6 - 2555
7 - 275
1
8 - deload
9 - 2753
10 - 275
5
11 - 2951
12 - deload
13 - 275
5
14 - 2953
15 - 315
1

front squat
1 - 2253
2 - 225
3
3 - 2255
4 - deload
5 - 255
3
6 - 2555
7 - 275
1
8 - deload
9 - 2753
10 - 275
5
11 - 2951
12 - deload
13 - 275
5
14 - 2953
15 - 315
1

So in 15 weeks your going to add 20 pounds of MUSCLE… may I ask how much Test your planning on running.

well nothing is set in stone, but i will for sure be trying to eat and lift as much as possible…for a guy like me, that’s like 3000-4000 calories of good food every day…last i weight myself, i was 165, so i got some room to grow i think:P

Maybe so but 20lbs of MUSCLE in 15 weeks unless on some pretty serious gear is pretty unrealistic. Espeacially considering you have been lifting for alittle bit already. 20lbs in that time is realistic but expect to be pretty bloated trust me.

my plan is to cycle creatine to keep strength in my workouts and take a weight gainer along with staying on par with meals and macro’s etc…actually have never bulked before, this will be my first attempt…

Lol I undaerstand your plan but no matter what plan you do 20lbs of lean muscle in 15 weeks without PED’s is for a lack of a better word impossible.

yea i kinda realized that the other day…online workout calculators have predicted it can take anywhere from 8 months to 16 months to get that kinda weight…so I’m gonna take it slow for now, gonna try and see how much mass I can get training specifically for speed, and strength starting in January.