Hey guys when someone is on a program to get faster, stronger and build muscle, should they still eat clean, HOWEVER, eat ALOT? or do u just eat normal, workout and have a good postworkout meal? what are ur guys’ thoughts on this?
always eat clean. of course one will have to eat a lot if they wish to grow.
I guess that depends on your definition of “eat normal”.
If you want to get stronger, faster, bigger, and meaner you have to look at food as a source of fuel. If you put some synthetic oil and some high octane gas in your hot rod, it’s going to run more efficient. You body is the same way.
*Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you actually try to eat synthetic motor oil, gasoline, and or any other petroleum byproduct.
[quote]ubl0 wrote:
always eat clean. of course one will have to eat a lot if they wish to grow.[/quote]
Always? Even CT mentioned that the idea is to approach this as “most of the time”, but not “always”. I am very interested in how some of you are growing much if you believe you ALWAYS need to “eat clean”(whatever that actually means to some people).
Especially in college, some of those trips to Cici’s pizza helped me build a good deal of size and strength. Obviously the goal isn’t to build an entire diet around junk food.
One pig at a time.
I agree with the Prof…I am in college now and sometimes it seems these little cheats and deviations from a “clean” diet can help. Obviously the cleaner the better, but there are some days when I am behind on calories for whatever reason, and I will try and eat more calorie-dense food to hit my intake for the day.
alright already, i just had a slice of pizza. now i am eating half pound of arctic musk ox, cheating is better how? ok, i’m being facetious. i like to use the 90% rule. once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.
And when all else fails…
SQUATS AND MILK!
what if im running at the same time on a program, then i have to eat even more? its not smart to go on a cutting diet while on a program to get faster and stronger right?
[quote]kobe4life08 wrote:
what if im running at the same time on a program, then i have to eat even more? its not smart to go on a cutting diet while on a program to get faster and stronger right?[/quote]
If you drastically increase your activity level without increasing your food intake, you will lose any size you have recently gained.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
always eat clean. of course one will have to eat a lot if they wish to grow.
Always? Even CT mentioned that the idea is to approach this as “most of the time”, but not “always”. I am very interested in how some of you are growing much if you believe you ALWAYS need to “eat clean”(whatever that actually means to some people).
Especially in college, some of those trips to Cici’s pizza helped me build a good deal of size and strength. Obviously the goal isn’t to build an entire diet around junk food.[/quote]
Man, there’s nothing better than hitting up either a pizza or restaurant for some post-workout “nutrition”. Endless stream of protein, carbs, and fat for your body so soak up and reap the benefits later.
[quote]ubl0 wrote:
once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.[/quote]
What the hell makes sushi not a clean food?
Raise food to mouth. Put food in mouth. Chew as necessary. Swallow.
Had to be said.
[quote]OneEye wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.
What the hell makes sushi not a clean food?[/quote]
High insulin release. It makes an awesome post workout meal on a bulking diet, though. Extra points for all you can eat.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
OneEye wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.
What the hell makes sushi not a clean food?
High insulin release. It makes an awesome post workout meal on a bulking diet, though. Extra points for all you can eat.[/quote]
I hope that isn’t what people are using to describe “clean” food. I think “clean” might need to be dropped all together just because of confusion about what it means. Insulin is an anabolic hormone. I could see focusing on decreasing release when DIETING. Otherwise, that same insulin increase could aid the uptake of nutrients into your body which will help in more growth.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope that isn’t what people are using to describe “clean” food. I think “clean” might need to be dropped all together just because of confusion about what it means.[/quote]
I’ve thought this for some time. Too many people go way overboard with trying to eat only the “best” foods. There’s another thread going on now where it’s being debated whether oatmeal or brown rice is best. Unless someone is extremely carb sensitive they are both fine. People have gone completely mad. Not everything has to be one extreme or the other.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
OneEye wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.
What the hell makes sushi not a clean food?
High insulin release. It makes an awesome post workout meal on a bulking diet, though. Extra points for all you can eat.[/quote]
Since when does raw fish and a small amount of white rice equal a high insulin release? Unless you’re eating a lot of extra rice, this shouldn’t be the case.
Another example of more food madness.
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
OneEye wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
once in a while pizza and sushi are nice treats.
What the hell makes sushi not a clean food?
High insulin release. It makes an awesome post workout meal on a bulking diet, though. Extra points for all you can eat.
Since when does raw fish and a small amount of white rice equal a high insulin release? Unless you’re eating a lot of extra rice, this shouldn’t be the case.
Another example of more food madness.[/quote]
I was just about to reverberate the same thing…How in the heck is sushi a high glycemic index food? Push aside some of the rice and you’ll be fine - I would worry more about the fact that your eating raw fish which may or may not get you sick, rather than a little rice. Hell, Im as carb conscious as anyone, but sushi is a free for all in my diet plan.
so guys theres no point in doing a program that is suited for you to get faster and stronger if im gonna be on a diet to lose fat?
[quote]kobe4life08 wrote:
so guys theres no point in doing a program that is suited for you to get faster and stronger if im gonna be on a diet to lose fat?[/quote]
What? You seem extremely confused. You need to slow down and ask questions that show you at least understand the absolute basics of what you are trying to do.
Right now, it sounds like you have never seen a weight before. Being on a restricted calorie diet is not exactly conducive to strength gains unless someone is a relative beginner to lifting weights. You are dieting? What are your stats?
Regardless of whether someone is dieting or gaining, the work in the gym is THE SAME. It isn’t like I start lifting like I don’t need any strength when I am dieting. I lift THE SAME as when I am gaining (if for no other reason than to make sure I don’t lose muscle mass when dropping calories). The results I see from that will based on my food intake.
If this isn’t what you are getting at, maybe you should spend much more time reading this site until you get a basic feel for what you are trying to get across.