Kinda like the other posters question about only using squats n deads lol, I was able to deadlift a little for a while, but I now cannot, (I have a problem around my knee area which makes any kind of bending exercise hurt a lot).
so basically I cant do squats, lunges, deads, etc neting half decent basically.
So literally my workouts consist of:
bench
overhead press
shrugs
bodyweight dips
upright / slightly bent rows without too much weight (as to not hurt leg)
laterel raises /bicep curls / other small isolation exercises… n probly some other stuff that I can’t think of right now, but thats basically as good as it gets…
Is there anything I can do eg suggestions people would have if i just have dumbells and a bench?! Im ghetting hold of a chin up bar asap (I hope) but aside from that I’m really jus varying up the “same” routine lol.
And before everyone jumps me, its not OUT OF CHOICE that I can’t do these exercises… Thanks…
You cant do ANY leg exercises? Ouch. No leg press? No leg extension? Ham curls? Gironda Squats put a lot of stress on the hamstrings and little stress on the knees if you wanna try something like that.
For the first few years of my training I never trained legs. Not that I am proud if that fact, but I did get moderate results. It wasn’t until I added squats that my strength really started to sky rocket in all lifts, upper body included.
I would guess that you would get positive results, just maybe not as good as you would with leg work included.
This is a type of shrug I came up with that to mimic the uppermost lockout part of a deadlift. It lets me pull my shoulders up and to the rear and allows me to arch my back to work the erectors. Plus, it feels good to hold a couple of heavy (for me) dumbbells.
Try seated GoodMornings, hyper-extensions, reverse hypers, chest supported rows (to take the strain off of your knees), straight-legged deadlifts, seated dumbbell clean & press.
The above will put minimal to no strain on your knees.
[quote]reality check wrote:
Have what ever is causing the pain in your knee diagnosed and fixed. Then squat and deadlift or do something for your lower body. Stop making excuses.[/quote]
Sometimes problems like that can never really be fixed, it may just get a little better, or stay the same.
But assuming it CAN be fixed, what do you suggest he do in the meantime? That might be more helpful than telling him to stop making excuses, which he obviously is not.
So many big guys just do the bench and curls. So keep up the good work and don’t forget chins/pullups.[/quote]
Not sure if u are serious what u said but i fully agree.There is no need to train legs if u “cant” or want to.Ive seen monsters that dont train legs and then i see little 150pound midgets saying blah blah blah u have to squat blah u have to deadlift blah blah whenever i hear them say that to some big guys i ask the midgets WHY?
[quote]King of Kings wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Relax!
So many big guys just do the bench and curls. So keep up the good work and don’t forget chins/pullups.
Not sure if u are serious what u said but i fully agree.There is no need to train legs if u “cant” or want to.Ive seen monsters that dont train legs and then i see little 150pound midgets saying blah blah blah u have to squat blah u have to deadlift blah blah whenever i hear them say that to some big guys i ask the midgets WHY?
K of K[/quote]
Yeah, good question. Why do you want to work any muscles besides the beach muscles? I mean, besides chest and biceps, what other muscle groups do you need to get huge? being a super huge guy is very hard, but not as hard as being a complete ass.
I dont squat or DL at the moment due to a back injury. I do alot of one leg stuff and kb work for legs/hips. I’ve managed to put on about 20kg less than in a year(had spinal surgery last year).
Not training something due to injury sucks but if you can’t, you can’t. Can you ride a bike??
Seems to me your doing everything you can in the gym. But if you have not seen a doc, you definatly should.
Good luck.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
do you perhaps have oskar-shclotters?
I think I spelled it wrong, but two guys from my school had that problem.[/quote]
I have got Oshgood-Schlatters. It is caused by repetitive stress to the knee area, usually from long distance running, but in my case certain drills from wrestling that we did for 10 sets at some practices. I have never found it to inhibit squatting and deadlifting, just jogging (not hill sprints though) and sometimes jump-roping.
[quote]baretta wrote:
King of Kings wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Relax!
So many big guys just do the bench and curls. So keep up the good work and don’t forget chins/pullups.
Not sure if u are serious what u said but i fully agree.There is no need to train legs if u “cant” or want to.Ive seen monsters that dont train legs and then i see little 150pound midgets saying blah blah blah u have to squat blah u have to deadlift blah blah whenever i hear them say that to some big guys i ask the midgets WHY?
K of K
Yeah, good question. Why do you want to work any muscles besides the beach muscles? I mean, besides chest and biceps, what other muscle groups do you need to get huge? being a super huge guy is very hard, but not as hard as being a complete ass.[/quote]
Let me guess mate…u are a 150 pound midget? “lol”
Look take it easy i was just saying if u have no need to train legs then WHY must u?.Im not saying i dont,a lot comes down to genetics.One of my buddies has never done a squat in his life and his legs are huge.
So why would he want to get his legs bigger? he has a hard enough time getting a nice pair of pants to fit comfy on him.So he just sticks with a all upperbody split.Works great for him.
[quote]daven wrote:
Try seated GoodMornings, hyper-extensions, reverse hypers, chest supported rows (to take the strain off of your knees), straight-legged deadlifts, seated dumbbell clean & press.[/quote]
Thanks to all those that can read, digest, and then reply, I appreciate all the suggestions and will be looking them up… and amen to “>But assuming it CAN be fixed, what do you suggest he do in the meantime? That might be more helpful than telling him to stop making excuses, which he obviously is not.” a man with a brain on a bodybuilding site?! WHO WUDA THOUGHT IT!
Basically, I’m not in the gym, I just have a bench / bar / dbs at home, so just making sure I’m doing everything I can at home (that’s worthwhile to do lol) - though Im probably going to join a gym for a month or so just to vary it up a bit. (believe it or not it ghets boring lol!)
Oh, and I put “can’t”, not “don’t want to”… If it’s useful maybe I’ll shatter your femur (thats the thigh bone…) and we’ll see what leg exercises you can and can’t do and how long it affects you for shall we?! Punks.
It actually makes me laugh to see on this site that even when people actually put that they can’t do something, they still get told to do it anyway! maybe you should spend less time telling people what they already should do or already know, and workout or eat! maybe?! no?! ok… but still, that’s mostly the level of ignorance I’ve come to expect from most here.
I’d keep hitting your whole upper body hard, and try to find something that doesn’t bother your knee for your lower body (but that may be tough to find).
Your situation really sucks. I would have tried asking any of the strength coaches in their locker room first though.
Maybe you can try that muscle shocking thing that Bruce Lee used to do (no, seriously). It shocks the muscle and does give some stimulation to the muscle.
You can also do those hip movement exersises where you keep your leg straight and kick your leg back using your glutes, or those other exersises mostly women use for the inner and outer thighs (I’ve seen some very well built men use them too, so don’t feel weird doing them).
Just remember you can still do movements with your hip without using your knee, but you might have to use some imagination.
Good luck, and don’t forget to ask some of the coaches here. Eric Cressey is very knowledgeable when it comes to rehab, and I’m sure many of the others are as well.
Maybe I missed it, but I don’t think you ever explained why you “CAN’T” do lower body exercises other then “it huwrts my wittle knee” Maybe if you told the specifics we would stop inturpreting your “can’t” as “I’m a big pussy”
and amen to “>But assuming it CAN be fixed, what do you suggest he do in the meantime? That might be more helpful than telling him to stop making excuses, which he obviously is not.” a man with a brain on a bodybuilding site?! WHO WUDA THOUGHT IT!
but still, that’s mostly the level of ignorance I’ve come to expect from most here.