Question for X or anyone else with dirty bulking experience:
Did you get monthly checkups? Do general physicians at shitty corner clinics do these? What should I get checked?
I just want to be on the safe side and monitor my health as I continue my bulk.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
Question for X or anyone else with dirty bulking experience:
Did you get monthly checkups? Do general physicians at shitty corner clinics do these? What should I get checked?
I just want to be on the safe side and monitor my health as I continue my bulk. [/quote]
I did it when I first got to college, got bloodwork done and the doc told me I was setting up a foundation for heart disease. Don’t remember specific values though.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
Question for X or anyone else with dirty bulking experience:
Did you get monthly checkups? Do general physicians at shitty corner clinics do these? What should I get checked?
I just want to be on the safe side and monitor my health as I continue my bulk. [/quote]
Basic metabolic panel (BMP), LDL, HDL, and triglycerides.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
This means I have much more time to work/cook meals etc. I feel like you are making a lot of assumptions about me because I made that one thread about not being motivated in college because I was unsure what career path I wanted to take. Your were more motivated towards academics, I was more motivated towards bodybuilding. That doesn’t make you any better or worse than me.[/quote]
I didn’t say it made me better than you, but short of a major in electrical engineering, computer science, law or nursing, there are few other majors that take as much of your time and focus as Biology does when the goal is getting into a good med or dental school. Bottom line, you have NOT had the experience people in those majors have…and yes, you focusing more on bodybuilding than studies is WHY you have the time to eat like you do.
I mean, shit if I was in college with that work load, not being strict would mean laziness.
My grades took priority then meaning, no, I did not have the resources or time to cook high quality food every night in college. I was barely scraping by at all. For someone like that, not being as strict with the diet may make the difference between barely growing and growing faster than everyone around you.
It is the same difference between being a bouncer and my current profession. It doesn’t make you any worse than me and makes me no better, but if you think the demands (physical and mental) are equal than I think you are mistaken.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
Question for X or anyone else with dirty bulking experience:
Did you get monthly checkups? Do general physicians at shitty corner clinics do these? What should I get checked?
I just want to be on the safe side and monitor my health as I continue my bulk. [/quote]
Why would someone need MONTHLY check ups? The human body is not that fragile and unless you are doing something really wrong like eating bottles of salt, I don’t understand why you think your body will fall apart in such a short period of time.
I got exams done in the military often but, no, when in college I did not get regular blood work done…and my tests in the military obviously confirmed there was no need because my numbers were fine.
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
Bricknyce…my training schedule is not conventional by any means. I should probably be more organized than I am (keep a log, etc.) but I just never have. When I played sports in high school, I was always on a rigid routine and hated it. I workout very frequently, however. I usually lift 5-6 days a week. I center my workouts around the staple lifts (I am interested in powerlifting). One day a week I bench (usually 5-6 intense sets) and follow it with iso work. One day I squat. One day I dead. I never follow one compound lift day with another just so I don’t overwhelm myself/ get injured. To give my CNS some rest I might insert a pure arm day or shoulders as I see fit. I definitely hit every muscle group. I always end my workouts with iso work just to really get the blood flowing. What I work on any given day is not random by any means as it might appear. I choose based off of how I feel and what muscles haven’t been hit in a few days. I’m not new to lifting by any means (started in middle school). However, I am new to truly trying to get massive and want to go about this the right way.
Thanks all. I am going to attempt to be more health conscious to start the day and if the caloric needs aren’t met by nightfall, capitilize on that college metabolism and have at that drive thru.
Pics to come when I can get my hands on a digital. [/quote]
Your routine is definitely unconventional for powerlifting. But if it works, who are we to say don’t do it. Quite a few powerlifters have done well with unorthodox methods (eg, Brian Siders, High Cassidy).
Five to six days of lifting is good and you do have enough physical activity. The list and tips I gave you for conserving dough is more than you need to get the foods you need.
A few cheat meals is not bad. What I was getting at in this thread is that it is rare that a non-behemoth college male needs so many damn calories to grow that he has to resort to eating ultra-calorically dense foods to get in a caloric allotment (<4,000 kcal/d). Getting this can be three square meals offered on campus and a few snacks and protein drinks and peri-workout drinks.
And I agree with X–you don’t need to count every morsel going into your mouth. I suggest you start with 3,500 - 4,000 cals and see where it takes you in a month. I doubt you need much more for the time being. But I’m just going off an assumption of what you look like. You’re 210, but I don’t know what your bodyfat percentage and height are. Maybe you listed them and I have to go back and check.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Houston07 wrote:
Question for X or anyone else with dirty bulking experience:
Did you get monthly checkups? Do general physicians at shitty corner clinics do these? What should I get checked?
I just want to be on the safe side and monitor my health as I continue my bulk. [/quote]
Why would someone need MONTHLY check ups? The human body is not that fragile and unless you are doing something really wrong like eating bottles of salt, I don’t understand why you think your body will fall apart in such a short period of time.
I got exams done in the military often but, no, when in college I did not get regular blood work done…and my tests in the military obviously confirmed there was no need because my numbers were fine.
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We don’t, but I just offered what he should be looking at if he does go for some - TG’s, BMP, chol. It doesn’t hurt to check testosterone, LH, and FSH too at an early age.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
This means I have much more time to work/cook meals etc. I feel like you are making a lot of assumptions about me because I made that one thread about not being motivated in college because I was unsure what career path I wanted to take. Your were more motivated towards academics, I was more motivated towards bodybuilding. That doesn’t make you any better or worse than me.[/quote]
I didn’t say it made me better than you, but short of a major in electrical engineering, computer science, law or nursing, there are few other majors that take as much of your time and focus as Biology does when the goal is getting into a good med or dental school. Bottom line, you have NOT had the experience people in those majors have…and yes, you focusing more on bodybuilding than studies is WHY you have the time to eat like you do.
I mean, shit if I was in college with that work load, not being strict would mean laziness.
My grades took priority then meaning, no, I did not have the resources or time to cook high quality food every night in college. I was barely scraping by at all. For someone like that, not being as strict with the diet may make the difference between barely growing and growing faster than everyone around you.
It is the same difference between being a bouncer and my current profession. It doesn’t make you any worse than me and makes me no better, but if you think the demands (physical and mental) are equal than I think you are mistaken.[/quote]
I don’t know what those majors entail because I wasn’t in them. I can say that nutrition was a very stressful major for quite a few people and at times myself.
Biochemistry (with lab)
general chem (with lab)
organic chem (with lab)
microbio (with lab)
biostats
advanced metabolism
research methodology
medical nutrition therapy
foodservice management
exercise physiology
weight control
food science (with lab) and technology…
… these were NOT cakewalk classes, ESPECIALLY some that were at the masters level, and I’ve seen quite a few people break down from shit like biochem and organic chem and biostats.
I myself felt like I was headed for the madhouse with biostats and biochem and advanced nutr metabolism. Some tests took me TWO HOURS to write. I admittedly overdid things, but whatever. It wasn’t easy shit. I did manage to do good in some classes that were a joke while half asleep (eg, Food and Culture, Nutrition Communications (I did like this one), Nutr Counseling).
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
This means I have much more time to work/cook meals etc. I feel like you are making a lot of assumptions about me because I made that one thread about not being motivated in college because I was unsure what career path I wanted to take. Your were more motivated towards academics, I was more motivated towards bodybuilding. That doesn’t make you any better or worse than me.[/quote]
I didn’t say it made me better than you, but short of a major in electrical engineering, computer science, law or nursing, there are few other majors that take as much of your time and focus as Biology does when the goal is getting into a good med or dental school. Bottom line, you have NOT had the experience people in those majors have…and yes, you focusing more on bodybuilding than studies is WHY you have the time to eat like you do.
I mean, shit if I was in college with that work load, not being strict would mean laziness.
My grades took priority then meaning, no, I did not have the resources or time to cook high quality food every night in college. I was barely scraping by at all. For someone like that, not being as strict with the diet may make the difference between barely growing and growing faster than everyone around you.
It is the same difference between being a bouncer and my current profession. It doesn’t make you any worse than me and makes me no better, but if you think the demands (physical and mental) are equal than I think you are mistaken.[/quote]
I don’t know what those majors entail because I wasn’t in them. I can say that nutrition was a very stressful major for quite a few people and at times myself.
Biochemistry (with lab)
general chem (with lab)
organic chem (with lab)
microbio (with lab)
biostats
advanced metabolism
research methodology
medical nutrition therapy
foodservice management
exercise physiology
weight control
food science (with lab) and technology…
… these were NOT cakewalk classes, ESPECIALLY some that were at the masters level, and I’ve seen quite a few people break down from shit like biochem and organic chem and biostats.
I myself felt like I was headed for the madhouse with biostats and biochem and advanced nutr metabolism. Some tests took me TWO HOURS to write. I admittedly overdid things, but whatever. It wasn’t easy shit. I did manage to do good in some classes that were a joke while half asleep (eg, Food and Culture, Nutrition Communications (I did like this one), Nutr Counseling).
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I have no doubt that anyone taking biochem, advanced chemistry and A&P worked hard in college. However, it is generally a given that pre-med majors have some of the more intense class schedules and work loads as far as those science classes are concerned unless they plan on being in college for 6 years.
Things get way more difficult when your full load is looking like :
Physics
A&P II
BioChem
Organic Chemistry
Genetics
Calculus II
Foreign Language
Add in extracurriculars and I don’t see many majors coming close to that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
This means I have much more time to work/cook meals etc. I feel like you are making a lot of assumptions about me because I made that one thread about not being motivated in college because I was unsure what career path I wanted to take. Your were more motivated towards academics, I was more motivated towards bodybuilding. That doesn’t make you any better or worse than me.[/quote]
I didn’t say it made me better than you, but short of a major in electrical engineering, computer science, law or nursing, there are few other majors that take as much of your time and focus as Biology does when the goal is getting into a good med or dental school. Bottom line, you have NOT had the experience people in those majors have…and yes, you focusing more on bodybuilding than studies is WHY you have the time to eat like you do.
I mean, shit if I was in college with that work load, not being strict would mean laziness.
My grades took priority then meaning, no, I did not have the resources or time to cook high quality food every night in college. I was barely scraping by at all. For someone like that, not being as strict with the diet may make the difference between barely growing and growing faster than everyone around you.
It is the same difference between being a bouncer and my current profession. It doesn’t make you any worse than me and makes me no better, but if you think the demands (physical and mental) are equal than I think you are mistaken.[/quote]
I don’t know what those majors entail because I wasn’t in them. I can say that nutrition was a very stressful major for quite a few people and at times myself.
Biochemistry (with lab)
general chem (with lab)
organic chem (with lab)
microbio (with lab)
biostats
advanced metabolism
research methodology
medical nutrition therapy
foodservice management
exercise physiology
weight control
food science (with lab) and technology…
… these were NOT cakewalk classes, ESPECIALLY some that were at the masters level, and I’ve seen quite a few people break down from shit like biochem and organic chem and biostats.
I myself felt like I was headed for the madhouse with biostats and biochem and advanced nutr metabolism. Some tests took me TWO HOURS to write. I admittedly overdid things, but whatever. It wasn’t easy shit. I did manage to do good in some classes that were a joke while half asleep (eg, Food and Culture, Nutrition Communications (I did like this one), Nutr Counseling).
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I have no doubt that anyone taking biochem, advanced chemistry and A&P worked hard in college. However, it is generally a given that pre-med majors have some of the more intense class schedules and work loads as far as those science classes are concerned unless they plan on being in college for 6 years.
Things get way more difficult when your full load is looking like :
Physics
A&P II
BioChem
Organic Chemistry
Genetics
Calculus II
Foreign Language
Add in extracurriculars and I don’t see many majors coming close to that.[/quote]
Definitely. I mean, I have a lot of respect and ADMIRATION for medical professionals. It not only takes just raw intelligence, but ATTRIBUTES as well to go through the necessary training to get where they are. You can be the smartest guy around, but if you’re not willing to put in some SERIOUS work, then law and medicine are not in the cards.
Nutrition is a Pre-Med Major, not why I chose it, but it’s an option.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Definitely. I mean, I have a lot of respect and ADMIRATION for medical professionals. It not only takes just raw intelligence, but ATTRIBUTES as well to go through the necessary training to get where they are. You can be the smartest guy around, but if you’re not willing to put in some SERIOUS work, then law and medicine are not in the cards. [/quote]
This is so true. My dad is an MD and man he took like the hardest route there possible. Got Mono his Junior year in college, it killed his GPA and he couldn’t get into any med schools in the states because of it. He didn’t give up though, he became fluent in spanish and went to a med school in Mexico and got his grad degree. Fuckin crazy. That more than anything helps keep me motivated.
Bricknyce, I’m 6 "2’ ish and haven’t had the body fat taken in a while…my guess would be 9-10%. That’s entirely a guess. I’m going home for a day in a week and will get my hands on the mom’s digital. I’m sure yall can give me better advice post-pics.