I’m not too happy that I happened across this thread. I perform my BB rows pretty much the same as Bug and the OP and guess what they work well, I can’t believe these tiny kids are whining.
I also noticed the people who posted vids of their “correct” BB rows were small as shit.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
Doing barbell rows this way gives me great muscle mind connection but stick with whatever gives you the best results.[/quote]
it struck me as funny that he appears to be wearing a sun dress and a pair of tights. (i know it’s an oversized jersey) but my first impression was- sun dress.
very sassy.
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hahaha, seriously wtf is he wearing?
Notice that Abel says this is the way to build a big back. Do you think the guy performing those reps has a big back? I sure don’t.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
Doing barbell rows this way gives me great muscle mind connection but stick with whatever gives you the best results.[/quote]
it struck me as funny that he appears to be wearing a sun dress and a pair of tights. (i know it’s an oversized jersey) but my first impression was- sun dress.
very sassy.
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hahaha, seriously wtf is he wearing?
Notice that Abel says this is the way to build a big back. Do you think the guy performing those reps has a big back? I sure don’t.[/quote]
big is such a subjective term:)
also, who the fuck looks at the ground with a “flat back” doing rows. that’s fine for 135lbs, but if you’re looking to row some weight that will actually make your back big and strong, you need to protect the lower back by arching and contracting the lower back. to do so you need to push the chest out and keep the head up to keep from rounding.
again… how do take anything a person says seriously when they are dressed like that??
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
(1.35 onwards)
Forgot to post the link, stupid as I am at times…
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I’ve been lurking this thread since it was started and after seeing this video, I decided to try my rows more like this. ( I had been doing them similar to the OP and bugeishaAD ) I was also feeling like I was jerking the weight a bit and liked the fluidity of the movement in this vid.
Two things I took away from this vid and have tried to emulate:
He seems to stick his chest out during the concentric which seems to help with bringing the scapula together. Also, and it seems to be in conjunction with the the former, is that his shoulders don’t stay “locked” into place while the elbows initiate the movement. His shoulders are pulling back during the concentric, and drop down during the eccentric as if the movement is actually initiated with the shoulders.
Anyway, this vid has definitely improved the effectiveness of my BB row. Poundages have dropped a bit but I’m “feeling” it much more.
For simplicity’s sake, why not differentiate between a row and a scapular retraction or “horizontal shrug”? I certainly see the value in the latter (I like to superset them with full ROM rows on the T-Bar). But if the focus is on retracting the shoulder blades with a heavy weight and not so much shoulder extension, why call it the same thing? You’re not going to do a power shrug and call it a high pull. Why is this any different?
[quote]wfifer wrote:
For simplicity’s sake, why not differentiate between a row and a scapular retraction or “horizontal shrug”? I certainly see the value in the latter (I like to superset them with full ROM rows on the T-Bar). But if the focus is on retracting the shoulder blades with a heavy weight and not so much shoulder extension, why call it the same thing? You’re not going to do a power shrug and call it a high pull. Why is this any different? [/quote]
I’m not sure if I’m following you 100%. Are you saying that if you intentionally retract your scapula during a BB row, it should be considered a horizontal shrug? Do you consider, then, BB Rows to be a movement in which scapular retraction isn’t necessary? Again, just trying to clarify what you mean.
I would consider a horizontal shrug to be executed by ONLY pulling the shoulders back with your arms hanging.
With a row, scapula are retracted as well as the upper arm/elbow moving posteriorly (sp?).
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
As a followup to this thread, I made this video a few weeks ago of a weekend of training with my friend.
EDIT: Skip to 1:30 for the BB rows. It’s like 9 minutes of training and not terribly exciting.
As you can see I’m doing the rows underhand now, but I think they’re a bit smoother and better. I wasn’t feeling 100% healthy that day so I stopped my heavy set early bc I felt form was falling apart, but it doesn’t look too too bad from what I can see.
Thank you for educating me, forum.
Dude, do you go to an LA Fitness by chance? The inside layout of your gym is almost identical to mine.
All you meatheads are fucking retarded. I’m sick and tired of seeing you guys that think you look ‘good’ with huge muscle that can’t even run a lap or throw a football. Since this thread started I’ve been asking all the guys at my crossfit gym how to do a barbell row, and only 99% of them agree that your back needs to be horizontal to the ground, and the eccentric needs to be slow.
Bug, your form looks horrible. There is no vagina on that bar so stop fucking it. Amonero, this isn’t 1937, let’s get a camera where we can see anything. Sometime I feel like the big meathead idiots try to spew crap because they think it’s right because it work for them, even though they have bad genetics. Do 135x20 hangcleans in 2 minutes and 37 fucking seconds then talk to me. Do 40 fucking 5 kippling pullups with 29 seconds then talk to me. I bet you guys even get tired jogging.
I’m so fucking steamed right now I need to go eat my soybean corn cereal bars and egg protein shakes before I explode. Your lucky I have BJJ training tonight at my crossfit gym so I can let off some steam. I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked choke your asses.
[quote]wfifer wrote:
For simplicity’s sake, why not differentiate between a row and a scapular retraction or “horizontal shrug”? I certainly see the value in the latter (I like to superset them with full ROM rows on the T-Bar). But if the focus is on retracting the shoulder blades with a heavy weight and not so much shoulder extension, why call it the same thing? You’re not going to do a power shrug and call it a high pull. Why is this any different? [/quote]
“Horizontal shrug” wtf? By definition, that would be a BB row essentially, which is probably why we’re not bothering to give a damn about the specific terminology.
The point is, clearly doing HEAVY rows with some body english works for building a bigger back, and the bigger people are sick of the smaller ones telling them otherwise. Tell Ronnie he’d be better off using less weight and focusing on form. After all, he knows nothing about building a big strong as fuck back.
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
All you meatheads are fucking retarded. I’m sick and tired of seeing you guys that think you look ‘good’ with huge muscle that can’t even run a lap or throw a football. Since this thread started I’ve been asking all the guys at my crossfit gym how to do a barbell row, and only 99% of them agree that your back needs to be horizontal to the ground, and the eccentric needs to be slow.
Bug, your form looks horrible. There is no vagina on that bar so stop fucking it. Amonero, this isn’t 1937, let’s get a camera where we can see anything. Sometime I feel like the big meathead idiots try to spew crap because they think it’s right because it work for them, even though they have bad genetics. Do 135x20 hangcleans in 2 minutes and 37 fucking seconds then talk to me. Do 40 fucking 5 kippling pullups with 29 seconds then talk to me. I bet you guys even get tired jogging.
I’m so fucking steamed right now I need to go eat my soybean corn cereal bars and egg protein shakes before I explode. Your lucky I have BJJ training tonight at my crossfit gym so I can let off some steam. I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked choke your asses.[/quote]
Lolz.
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I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked rape your asses.[/quote]
fixed
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
All you meatheads are fucking retarded. I’m sick and tired of seeing you guys that think you look ‘good’ with huge muscle that can’t even run a lap or throw a football. Since this thread started I’ve been asking all the guys at my crossfit gym how to do a barbell row, and only 99% of them agree that your back needs to be horizontal to the ground, and the eccentric needs to be slow.
Bug, your form looks horrible. There is no vagina on that bar so stop fucking it. Amonero, this isn’t 1937, let’s get a camera where we can see anything. Sometime I feel like the big meathead idiots try to spew crap because they think it’s right because it work for them, even though they have bad genetics. Do 135x20 hangcleans in 2 minutes and 37 fucking seconds then talk to me. Do 40 fucking 5 kippling pullups with 29 seconds then talk to me. I bet you guys even get tired jogging.
I’m so fucking steamed right now I need to go eat my soybean corn cereal bars and egg protein shakes before I explode. Your lucky I have BJJ training tonight at my crossfit gym so I can let off some steam. I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked choke your asses.[/quote]
listen here stuntcuntmike, how about you stunt your growth a little more with that cross fit bullshit, or better yet stunt you fucking mental capabilities with the BJJ training. Learn from the pros homie, keep doing the 135 on the barbell rows whilst I curl that shiiii for more reps than you row it. Cheaw
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
All you meatheads are fucking retarded. I’m sick and tired of seeing you guys that think you look ‘good’ with huge muscle that can’t even run a lap or throw a football. Since this thread started I’ve been asking all the guys at my crossfit gym how to do a barbell row, and only 99% of them agree that your back needs to be horizontal to the ground, and the eccentric needs to be slow.
Bug, your form looks horrible. There is no vagina on that bar so stop fucking it. Amonero, this isn’t 1937, let’s get a camera where we can see anything. Sometime I feel like the big meathead idiots try to spew crap because they think it’s right because it work for them, even though they have bad genetics. Do 135x20 hangcleans in 2 minutes and 37 fucking seconds then talk to me. Do 40 fucking 5 kippling pullups with 29 seconds then talk to me. I bet you guys even get tired jogging.
I’m so fucking steamed right now I need to go eat my soybean corn cereal bars and egg protein shakes before I explode. Your lucky I have BJJ training tonight at my crossfit gym so I can let off some steam. I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked choke your asses.[/quote]
listen here stuntcuntmike, how about you stunt your growth a little more with that cross fit bullshit, or better yet stunt you fucking mental capabilities with the BJJ training. Learn from the pros homie, keep doing the 135 on the barbell rows whilst I curl that shiiii for more reps than you row it. Cheaw[/quote]
Shut the hell up you dumb juice head, I will fucking rear naked choke your ass into you cry for your mommy in a Jersey Shore accent. I can row 135 8 fucking 4 times in 1 minute and 23.3 seconds, can you do that in 10 minutes? HAHA what a joke.
WTF austin you used “whilst” and “homie” in the same sentence…
was that guy in the second vid on trapple sauce?
Also Barbell rows in my gym are pretty controvercial. Everyone thinks they are an expert but I just keep hearing different guys saying shit like “Your not bent over enough so your not working anything” or “your bent over too far and you;ll hurt your back”
been ignoring it but this thread seems like a help.
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
All you meatheads are fucking retarded. I’m sick and tired of seeing you guys that think you look ‘good’ with huge muscle that can’t even run a lap or throw a football. Since this thread started I’ve been asking all the guys at my crossfit gym how to do a barbell row, and only 99% of them agree that your back needs to be horizontal to the ground, and the eccentric needs to be slow.
Bug, your form looks horrible. There is no vagina on that bar so stop fucking it. Amonero, this isn’t 1937, let’s get a camera where we can see anything. Sometime I feel like the big meathead idiots try to spew crap because they think it’s right because it work for them, even though they have bad genetics. Do 135x20 hangcleans in 2 minutes and 37 fucking seconds then talk to me. Do 40 fucking 5 kippling pullups with 29 seconds then talk to me. I bet you guys even get tired jogging.
I’m so fucking steamed right now I need to go eat my soybean corn cereal bars and egg protein shakes before I explode. Your lucky I have BJJ training tonight at my crossfit gym so I can let off some steam. I want everyones name and address in this thread now so I can come rear naked choke your asses.[/quote]
listen here stuntcuntmike, how about you stunt your growth a little more with that cross fit bullshit, or better yet stunt you fucking mental capabilities with the BJJ training. Learn from the pros homie, keep doing the 135 on the barbell rows whilst I curl that shiiii for more reps than you row it. Cheaw[/quote]
Shut the hell up you dumb juice head, I will fucking rear naked choke your ass into you cry for your mommy in a Jersey Shore accent. I can row 135 8 fucking 4 times in 1 minute and 23.3 seconds, can you do that in 10 minutes? HAHA what a joke.[/quote]
I always though stuntman was cool…Then I found out he did crossfit.
I mean seriously, were not here to do fucking doucheups. Were here to get big as fuck, look good as fuck, and move weights that are heavy as fuck. Theres the bodybuilding forum, the strongman forum, the powerlifting forum, even forums that have 2 or less posts in them, I have not seen a crossfit forum, and never will.
GTFO out T-Nation, your not wanted, I dont give two fucks with a medium coffee if Im an 09er, your not wanted here, If you are, then great ill shut up. But I doubt you are.
After doing BB rows with as little weight as 185, Im about to give up, becuase they dont give me any muscle stimulation, and they dont help my bench as good as kroc rows do.
Dude… Stuntman Mike’s post was 100% sarcasm.
Im with Brauny, this place clearly isnt meant for you StuntCockMike.
Facepalm…Brauny Stunt is my boy we just do da trolling for fun sometimez.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Dude… Stuntman Mike’s post was 100% sarcasm.[/quote]
And nobody is impressed by your avatar, we don’t care if you shrug 405.