Altering a Premade Routine

Bear with me please�?�this is my first attempt at altering a pre made training programme!

The first is what ive done for the last 5 weeks. The second is what I will be changing to after x mas.

Look at the workouts from a fat loss while maintaining mass point of view.

These are the workouts from the �??real fast fat loss plan�??.

I know its hard for you to quantify how good a workout this is for me without any background info, but im not looking for answers to that aspect.

What im looking for is �??in general�?? do you think there are any inadequacies in this programme? For example is there an obvious muscle group neglected?

Workout: Mon (5x5), Wed (4x10), Fri(3x15).

Alternating between A and B so each workout gets rotating set and rep numbers.

Bracket number is rest between sets. DB = dumb bell and the weight on these exercises is per dumb bell.

A

Ex1) - Front squat(bar) → push press (60)
5x5 40kg, 3x15 30kg
Ex2a) - Waterbury DB row(full ROM) (30)
5x5 17.5kg, 3x15 12.5kg
Ex2b) - good morning → reverse lunge(bar) (30)
5x6(3eachleg) 50kg, 3x15 40kg
Ex2c) - squat jump → chin → knee tuck(locked arms) (30)
Repeat 2a-c for 5x5, 4x10, or 3x15.
Ex3) - 2x 30secs prone plank → reverse crunch → swiss ball crunch (no rest)

B

Ex1 - DB Rom Deadlift → split snatch → lunge (60)
3x15 = 12.5kg, 5x5=15kg
Ex2a) - Push up → prone jack knife (30)
3x15 normal, 5x5 diamonds
Ex2b) - Bent over row → back extension(bar) (30)
3x15 = 30kg, 5x5 = 40kg
Ex2c) - Dynamic Lunge + shoulder press(DB) (30)
3x15 = 7kg, 5x5 = 12.5kg
Repeat 2a-c for 5x5, 4x10, or 3x15.
Ex3) - 2X - 20 squat jumps → squats → Squat holds (no rest)
(I DO go ass to grass �?? god this hurts)

POST XMAS:
Ive highlighted the changed areas.
A

Ex1) - Front squat(bar) → push press (60)
5x5 40kg, 3x15 30kg
Ex2a) - Waterbury DB row(full ROM) (30)
5x5 17.5kg, 3x15 12.5kg
Ex2b) - good morning → reverse lunge(bar) (30)
5x6(3eachleg) 50kg, 3x15 40kg
Ex2c) �?? BURPEE(prev squat jump) → PULL UP(previous �?? chin up) (REMOVED:knee tuck(locked arms)) (30)
Repeat 2a-c for 5x5, 4x10, or 3x15.
Ex3) - 2x 30secs prone plank → reverse crunch → swiss ball crunch (no rest)

B

Ex1 �?? STRAIGHT LEGGED DB Rom Deadlift → split snatch → lunge (60)
3x15 = 12.5kg, 5x5=15kg
Ex2a) �?? 1 ARM PUSH UPS(previous - Push up → prone jack knife) (30)
Ex2b) - Bent over row → back extension(bar) (30)
3x15 = 30kg, 5x5 = 40kg
Ex2c) - Dynamic Lunge + shoulder press(DB) (30)
3x15 = 7kg, 5x5 = 12.5kg
Repeat 2a-c for 5x5, 4x10, or 3x15.
Ex3) - 2X - 20 squat jumps → squats → Squat holds (no rest)
(I DO go ass to grass �?? god this hurts)

So I added the burpee into my pull up compound because I saw these and they look killer. It also makes up for the removal of the jackknife motion from my push ups on the other days workout.

Chin up → pull up (chins were getting to easy)
Push ups �?? 1 arm push ups (push ups getting too easy)

Straight legged deads �?? previously no focused hamstring work.

I removed the leg lift(knee tuck) from the chin up compound. Didn�??t add in to replace this except for the severity of the addition of a burpee movement.

The real critique im wanting is on my changes, do they make sense? I just want to kick it up a small notch so I basically increased the difficulty of the overall exercise circuit.
What have I neglected? Anything obvious?

Also �?? post x mas I may have already reached my ideal body fat % in which case id be taking my calories out of deficit into a maitainance level.
In those circumstances, with proper pre and post work out nutrition, would I be able to add muscle mass with this workout?
I realise it would be slow, but at that moment I would want to keep my fat % stable.

I Was thinking of following yet more Chad Waterbury advise and adding in some support work.

Dumb bell external rotation(external rotators), push up plus(serratus), wrist extension(wrist extensors).

Hip abduction and hip adduction? anyone got some exercises for these?

also shrugs…or does something in my existing workout cover those muscle groups?

i know its a long read, anyone out there with time on their hands?
bored out at work? come here!

lol

1 last bump then ill think about re writing this so people can actually bear to read through it and answer ;]

looks good to me

yay!

That’s basically a “complex” routine. It’s really designed for conditioning/fat loss, so I don’t really see any problems with your modifications. Honestly though, a much simpler way to make the program more challenging (or kick it up a notch) would be to just up the weights you’re using.

In my opinion it’s not too good as a mass building program though. You’d be much better off getting on a solid foundational program and work on getting much stronger while eating enough food to support growth and repair.

If you experiment (with your caloric intake) and add in the necessary amount of cardio (which will be an individual amount), then you can stay relatively lean and still make good gains in muscle mass.

whilst i feel i know a shitload about fat loss i know next to nothing about size gains.

any recommended basic routines to start with? id be keen for any with particular focus on the big movements, deadlifts, squats, pull ups, dips etc.

as it stands im still losing weight - which is not the aim anymore -
i have increased my calories to maitainance from a 600 deficit slowly over the last 4 weeks.

if i do the above workout with a calorie surplus, do you reckon its feasible that i can stop my weight loss, and ‘pause’ for a little while while i try and get started on a growth plan?