“I don’t think T-Nation is dead yet, Dad…you may have to shoot it again”.
[quote]trashyandvogue wrote:
i’m a vegetarian for ethical reasons. i’m not even going to discuss it further. eating an innocent animal is out of the question.
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Look, we are born with every tool necessary to eat meat, the ability to digest and thrive on it. Grow the fuck up and eat some. I bet you a billion if you ate a few steaks with some honest-to-God fat on it, your Test levels would rise to the level of a normal male and you’ll drop this shit about getting skinny(er).
If you are even into girls trust me, they DO NOT want some guy smaller, weaker and more feminine than they are.
And if you’re NOT into girls, all the gay men I know want a big, strong boyfriend so you’re fucked there as well…
I’m sure you can already hang-glide from a Dorito.
This post makes as much sense as asking how to chop a V8 in half to make a 4 cylinder engine on MuscleCarGarage.com forums.
The only vegetarians I know look like shit and feel like shit. Talk to any reformed vegan and you’ll see.
Oh, and the BS about “innocent animals”? What did vegetables ever do to you to make them NOT innocent? Is it up to you now to decide what life-form is ok for you to kill and eat?
Ethical reasons my ass.
Other than that, I have no strong feelings on the subject.
Oh yeah!
[quote]heim wrote:
i don’t see what’s so bad about eating animal. They eat each other, and we have just as much right in such case.
Besides, they’re already dead, not like not eating them, and leaving them to rot will reincarnate them.
In the long run you’re only hurting yourself.[/quote]
well, what i don’t see is how we, as humans, can hold ourselves so high in significance in comparison to other animals, and then subjugate ourselves to eating them. what’s even worse is that we justify it by saying “weeeeeeeellll, dey eat eachothrrrr. y cant we eet dem??/?. itz lyk teh circle of lyfe”
they don’t have other option. we do.
sure, if i was stranded on an island and had to go fishing to survive, yes, i would do it. that’s survival of the fittest, and i wouldn’t have any other option. although we apparently do happen to be more fit with our machines and whatnot, we still have other options.
and if that truly is your philosophy, then why can’t we eat each other ? i mean, there are those EVIL ANIMALS that eat us right?1! you know, the ones you hear about on TV that get put down ?
because it is against the law, of course. but WHY is it against the law ? apply that answer to your imposed question. and don’t give me that “well, we’re more intelligent than cows and yeah we’re better than them.”
although that may be true for most of us (maybe not your case), which is highly doubtful because i’m sure our planet would be in a much better condition if it weren’t for us effing it up, that shouldn’t deny a cow or squid or rabbit or even a chicken it’s chance to live.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
trashyandvogue wrote:
…i’m a vegetarian for ethical reasons. i’m not even going to discuss it further. eating an innocent animal is out of the question.
…
How about guilty ones?[/quote]
Ooooh, you’re witty.
[quote]derek wrote:
trashyandvogue wrote:
i’m a vegetarian for ethical reasons. i’m not even going to discuss it further. eating an innocent animal is out of the question.
Look, we are born with every tool necessary to eat meat, the ability to digest and thrive on it. Grow the fuck up and eat some. I bet you a billion if you ate a few steaks with some honest-to-God fat on it, your Test levels would rise to the level of a normal male and you’ll drop this shit about getting skinny(er).
If you are even into girls trust me, they DO NOT want some guy smaller, weaker and more feminine than they are.
And if your NOT into girls, all the gay men I know want a big, strong boyfriend so you’re fucked there as well…
I’m sure you can already hang-glide from a Dorito.
This post makes as much sense as asking how to chop a V8 in half to make a 4 cylinder engine on MuscleCarGarage.com forums.
The only vegetarians I know look like shit and feel like shit. Talk to any reformed vegan and you’ll see.
Oh, and the BS about “innocent animals”? What did vegetables ever do to you to make them NOT innocent? Is it up to you now to decide what life-form is ok for you to kill and eat?
Ethical reasons my ass.
Other than that, I have no strong feelings on the subject.[/quote]
i don’t remember vegetation having nerve endings.
[quote]derek wrote:
If you are even into girls …[/quote]
Hahahahahaha!!!
LOL!
Heee hee hee heee
Haa haa haa hoo hoo hhooo haa haaa!!!
giggle.
Honestly kid all you’ve done is connect yourself to some skinny ass kid that isn’t healthy and can’t bench his own weight. You want help here, you think your fat, post a picture (or a few) look around at what poses people use. We’ll still say you’re skinny and not fat at all, we’ll tell you to stop being an emo little vegetarian save the animals want to be anorexic weight kid and maybe point you to a lifting program and the nearest deli isle. Beyond that save your breath. Really, I mean it.
[quote]derek wrote:
Oh yeah![/quote]
try swallowing an apple without chewing it. duh, we’re capable of digesting meat. that doesn’t mean we’re supposed to, or that it will be good for us. we can digest cardboard. does that mean we should start serving that at restaurants ?
if evidence shows that our anatomy favors plant foods, and we’re healthier when we eat less animal foods, what do we make of the fact that we’re capable of eating animals? We have the ability to eat a wide variety of foods.
it’s a survival mechanism.
I don’t even think twice when it comes to consuming meat, but i’m also the guy that opens the window for a fly instead of crushing it, and avoids stepping on an ant.
I have respect for nature, but even i realize that if the animal’s already dead, then might as well eat it.
[quote]derek wrote:
trashyandvogue wrote:
i’m a vegetarian for ethical reasons. i’m not even going to discuss it further. eating an innocent animal is out of the question.
The only vegetarians I know look like shit and feel like shit. Talk to any reformed vegan and you’ll see.
[/quote]
Oh, by the way.
http://www.marinij.com/lifestyles/ci_4347580
Kenneth Williams is a vegan bodybuilder.
I don’t think that he is a prime example of your ridiculously gross generalization.
: p
tube steak boogie
[quote]trashyandvogue wrote:
heim wrote:
i don’t see what’s so bad about eating animal. They eat each other, and we have just as much right in such case.
Besides, they’re already dead, not like not eating them, and leaving them to rot will reincarnate them.
In the long run you’re only hurting yourself.
well, what i don’t see is how we, as humans, can hold ourselves so high in significance in comparison to other animals, and then subjugate ourselves to eating them. what’s even worse is that we justify it by saying “weeeeeeeellll, dey eat eachothrrrr. y cant we eet dem??/?. itz lyk teh circle of lyfe”
they don’t have other option. we do.
sure, if i was stranded on an island and had to go fishing to survive, yes, i would do it. that’s survival of the fittest, and i wouldn’t have any other option. although we apparently do happen to be more fit with our machines and whatnot, we still have other options.
and if that truly is your philosophy, then why can’t we eat each other ? i mean, there are those EVIL ANIMALS that eat us right?1! you know, the ones you hear about on TV that get put down ?
because it is against the law, of course. but WHY is it against the law ? apply that answer to your imposed question. and don’t give me that “well, we’re more intelligent than cows and yeah we’re better than them.”
although that may be true for most of us (maybe not your case), which is highly doubtful because i’m sure our planet would be in a much better condition if it weren’t for us effing it up, that shouldn’t deny a cow or squid or rabbit or even a chicken it’s chance to live.
[/quote]
YOU MEAN IF I DON’T EAT ANIMALS I COULD LOOK LIKE YOU!!! HOW COULD I PASS THAT UP!
Oh and cows have one purpose
To one day be in my stomach.
[quote]trashyandvogue wrote:
derek wrote:
Oh yeah!
try swallowing an apple without chewing it. duh, we’re capable of digesting meat. that doesn’t mean we’re supposed to, or that it will be good for us. we can digest cardboard. does that mean we should start serving that at restaurants ?
if evidence shows that our anatomy favors plant foods, and we’re healthier when we eat less animal foods, what do we make of the fact that we’re capable of eating animals? We have the ability to eat a wide variety of foods.
it’s a survival mechanism.[/quote]
Bull shit, show me a study where it says that eating veggys will make me healthier.
If only all those bodybuilders would have just eaten veggys the would have been twice there size.
Do you know Mykayl ?
–JB
Honestly whatever the fuck ur name is you shoulda expected this to happen from a site like this, look at the name there buddy.
Not to defend him though, but ya should lay off him for the vegetarian thing, it’s his choice, I think it’s a bad choice but that’s just me I love my meat (no pun intended). Whatever his reasons for being one is, just that his reason and he believes it and you prolly already know that whatever you say won’t change it your wasting your time.
Also, being that’s not you in that pic, and for whatever godly reason you wanna look like that is beyond me. I used to be ur weight (but half the BF), and 2 inches taller, now I’m 6-1 and 165 (still same BF), still terribly lean and I got a long way to go. But no way on earth would I ever want to slim down. I honestly believe that if everything you said so far is true, you have some problems, you’re not gonna get help here, so go elsewhere, womens health is actually a good place to checkout buddy.
[quote]Skrussian wrote:
Honestly kid all you’ve done is connect yourself to some skinny ass kid that isn’t healthy and can’t bench his own weight. You want help here, you think your fat, post a picture (or a few) look around at what poses people use. We’ll still say you’re skinny and not fat at all, we’ll tell you to stop being an emo little vegetarian save the animals want to be anorexic weight kid and maybe point you to a lifting program and the nearest deli isle. Beyond that save your breath. Really, I mean it. [/quote]
I’m not saying that I’m fat.
I’m saying that I have unnecessary fat on my body and it needs toning. The guy that I posted has a nice body, I think. I just want to know how to achieve it. Do you know how to achieve a figure like his ?
[quote]heim wrote:
but even i realize that if the animal’s already dead, then might as well eat it.[/quote]
exactly. that’s the problem.
it wouldn’t be dead if it wasn’t so in demand, would it ?
I think I just threw up a little bit in the back of my mouth after reading this thread.
I think I need to take a shower - right after I have me a big heaping pile of dead cow.
[quote]trashyandvogue wrote:
Do you know how to achieve a figure like his ?[/quote]
Meth. Lots of it.