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[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
I think the REAL pro Body Builder that America wanted as their posterboy was Ronnie Coleman:

A: He’s a cop

B: He’s churchgoing boy from down south

C: If you’ve read any of his interviews, he says that people wouldnt hire him in Accounting because he was a black man in the south in the late 70’s/early 80’s. He conquered adversity, became a Law Enforcement officer and one of the greatest(If not THE greatest) Bodybuilders of all time, winning 8 consecutive titles.

D: Funny, Charismatic, Good on camera

E: Wrote a book

F: YEAH BUDDY!

Def. my fav BB’er of all time if i had to pick one.[/quote]

Yeah, I think the only thing he really missed was the connection to money/power/women.

I mean look at Arnold. He was jacked, banged hot girls, made money in movies kicking people’s ass. What man, weight lifter or not, doesn’t want that?

Shit I grew up wanting to be Conan, Rambo, the Terminator. Kick ass, take names, and score the babe too.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
I think the REAL pro Body Builder that America wanted as their posterboy was Ronnie Coleman:

A: He’s a cop

B: He’s churchgoing boy from down south

C: If you’ve read any of his interviews, he says that people wouldnt hire him in Accounting because he was a black man in the south in the late 70’s/early 80’s. He conquered adversity, became a Law Enforcement officer and one of the greatest(If not THE greatest) Bodybuilders of all time, winning 8 consecutive titles.

D: Funny, Charismatic, Good on camera

E: Wrote a book

F: YEAH BUDDY!

Def. my fav BB’er of all time if i had to pick one.[/quote]

Yeah, I think the only thing he really missed was the connection to money/power/women.

I mean look at Arnold. He was jacked, banged hot girls, made money in movies kicking people’s ass. What man, weight lifter or not, doesn’t want that?

Shit I grew up wanting to be Conan, Rambo, the Terminator. Kick ass, take names, and score the babe too. [/quote]

Hah, this is true. That would be great having Ronnie Coleman in an action flick. Even seeing Terry Crews in the expendables(who is big, but nowhere NEAR ronnie’s size) was bad ass.

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Man that chick on the news wanted some Jay.

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For people that don’t know… other people besides Jay and Kai are competing in this show.

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and from the back

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]nik133 wrote:
Right when Jay says something, it’s boring and tedious. If only he were to discuss the existential quandary, I mean really our universe is so broad and the limitations of the human mind are expanding faster then the farthest nebula, it’s almost mind boggling where we will be in the next 10 years and as… wait what? Do I like leg curls for hamstrings?

Way as for your question, you see Kai came up from nothing and unfortunately it was too difficult for him to get a real job, so he had to resort to making love to grapefruit and doing all sorts of other G4P. Which is totally inspirational and great for bbing, I mean would you rather have some weird dude with a brohawk representing the sport or a man that knows no bounds between the matrix of love of fruits and humanity, a connoisseur of many fancy attires and not only that, but he poses like an exotic dancer as well!! The choice is obvious, this 24/25th VOTE GRAPEFRUIT! [/quote]

LOL.

Jay Cutler’s lifestyle is “eat, sleep, eat, eat, sleep, read fan mail, eat, eat, eat, sleep, tan, pedicure, sleep, lift weights”. If you want to argue someone as a representative, pic David Henry. The man is Air Force and carries himself well in public. How is the ultra-pretty boy a massive step up from an exotic dancer? They both wear thongs and many in the general public think they are damn near the same anyway.[/quote]

lol

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
While Jay may not be the best speaker in terms of addressing people and being an ‘ambassador’ (I love it when people think that has anything to do with winning bodybuilding titles), I think he seemed pretty genuine in that clip, and the broadcasters seemed honestly friendly and interested, which isn’t always the case when they have ‘some bodybuilder’ on before a local contest.

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Well, I have gone thru several contest diets in my past and I can tell you that it can be diffilcult to put any words together in a normal conversation not to mention an interview. Jay is probably carb depleting which only makes it harder to keep a straight thought and form sentences. I would not judge anyone’s personality or IQ while dieting for a show!

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I finally got a chance to watch that interview. I thought Jay did a good job of explaining his thoughts and presented himself well. He was very humble (which was nice)

I thought that he could have cracked a few more jokes and been more playful… but then I figured that the guy has been prepping for this show for months, he’s serious and is just sticking to business. Probably wouldn’t look that great if he’s joking around and being cocky on the news a few days before the show and then doesnt win it.

Business now… play later I guess?

Oh yeah and that reporter girl wanted a ride on the pound town express

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
I think the REAL pro Body Builder that America wanted as their posterboy was Ronnie Coleman:

A: He’s a cop

B: He’s churchgoing boy from down south

C: If you’ve read any of his interviews, he says that people wouldnt hire him in Accounting because he was a black man in the south in the late 70’s/early 80’s. He conquered adversity, became a Law Enforcement officer and one of the greatest(If not THE greatest) Bodybuilders of all time, winning 8 consecutive titles.

D: Funny, Charismatic, Good on camera

E: Wrote a book

F: YEAH BUDDY!

Def. my fav BB’er of all time if i had to pick one.[/quote]

Yeah, I think the only thing he really missed was the connection to money/power/women.

I mean look at Arnold. He was jacked, banged hot girls, made money in movies kicking people’s ass. What man, weight lifter or not, doesn’t want that?

Shit I grew up wanting to be Conan, Rambo, the Terminator. Kick ass, take names, and score the babe too. [/quote]

Arnold has done a great deal for the BB sport and also (I believe) brought the sport out to the mainstream. I think a simple test to a non-weight training public to ask “name a bodybuilder?” would probably 9/10 yield Arnold’s name. That’s saying a lot. The sport was different in Arnold’s time and while he faced challenges (language, being accepted, breaking into films etc - which he overcame) the challenges today are much different (especially to make it more appealing to the public, a better understood sport, encouraging athletes to compete in bodybuilding, to make it more lucrative etc).

I don’t think I ever equated “banging hot girls” to Arnold but certainly the part about being “jacked”. The scene from Predator where Arnold and Carl Weathers shake hands will always live in my mind as the moment I really admired Arnold (I think I was 10 at the time).

Footnote - I still admire Arnold to this day. I posted a photo from a MuscleMag on my wall recently of an old Arnold picture, black and white just posing. My wife and I were talking about the photo today, about the definition of his quads and development of the six pack. My wife doesn’t really like BB but she certainly is keen to know more with Arnold still as the face. Jay is on the cover of October MD and she didn’t really like him.

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to add to the Jay v Kai discussions in this thread:

There’s a new video from MD

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[quote]lamach wrote:
to add to the Jay v Kai discussions in this thread:

There’s a new video from MD[/quote]

that video was awesome… Didnt the guy who called Jay look like Mr. Smith from The Matrix?

It’s kinda hard to understand why Jay would shoot that video this close to The O. Maybe to psych Kai out or get in his head (not that I think it will work) OR he is veeeeeery confident that he will repeat this year.

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All this kai this, jay that bullshit is… bullshit.

Im a big jay fan, before he beat coleman, just cos the guy seems like a very straight and narrow kinda guy, simple and sweet. Kai on the hand is more indepth, and complex, a great thing about him and his personality, because he can create great insight into not only the physical/anatomical perspectives of bodybuilding but psychological/psychosocial as well.

Theyre two almost polar opposites in personality, but still incredible human beings.

For all the jay love, theres just as much kai love. Same for the hate.

Agree to disagree people. Agree to disagree i tell you.

Rob, out!

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1 day left!

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Now that is a sucked in contest face… someone means business :slight_smile:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Uh, because like we have said many times we are looking at this in the context of “another Arnold” and that requires a hell of a lot more personality than what Jay ever shows. Kai may not be the one either, but he has a more engaging personality than anyone else at the moment.

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Actually, if we are talking about another “Arnold”, Arnold used to talk in magazines about gangbanging chicks and not being embarrassed about “fucking in front of other guys”.

The next arnold may very well be Kai Greene.
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Well said. Arnold was a rebel. He played games with people. he was interesting because he wasn’t normal. he was a complete foreigner who could barely speak english well who basically barged in and stood out among thousands of people in the industry. He was active in an activity that at the time was considered to be for homosexuals by those looking to degrade it and one that had a MUCH smaller following back then than most here can fathom.

The next guy to stand out like that will likely be just as alien. It won’t be “the guy next door” especially when he can’t smile more than awkwardly during an interview.[/quote]

Yep!
Plus, Arnold smoked a joint (and inhaled) on camera.
Kai fucked a grapefruit.

One is illegal, the other just plain weird.

lol

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He’s eying those numbers like they are candy tho…kinda disturbing…

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A supreme rivalry is the greatest thing for any sport. I don’t see the need to argue over who would make a better ambassador for bodybuilding. The best scenario would be a rivalry between the two, whether it’s friendly or not it doesn’t matter.

Look at what Bird vs Johnson did for the sport of basketball, which was falling fast before their rivalry hit the stage. Some with the Ovechkin vs Crosby rivalry.

I know a Kai vs Jay rivalry will never reach the same level as Bird vs Johnson, but something even remotely similar in the world of bodybuilding (however that may exist) would do great things for the sport.

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I see a lot of talk about what would be good for the sport or bad for the sport. Or who would be the best ambassador for the sport. Doesn’t anyone else want bodybuilding to stay a niche? I wouldn’t mind if bodybuilding got much less popular.

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he can’t even look him in the eye…HE’S SCARED!!!

i’m joking obviously…Dorian seems to think a peeled kai CAN beat a “2009 like” jay…i agree. he’ll have to be big and shredded to win though.

cannot wait to see them all vic, branch, kai, jay, dex, roelly, heath …this whole year is stacked w. amazing athletes.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I see a lot of talk about what would be good for the sport or bad for the sport. Or who would be the best ambassador for the sport. Doesn’t anyone else want bodybuilding to stay a niche? I wouldn’t mind if bodybuilding got much less popular.[/quote]

It will most likely always be a niche but I think we would all like to fix the public perception of the sport.