[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
WOW…that chick pretty much almost came when she saw Jay up close…ha! Most women don’t like that much muscle tho…they think its nasty! lol[/quote]
gotta disagree there, the chicks usually thing that being super super ripped and oily like onstage is gross, they do prefer the mass however.
I’m sure she planted her # in jays pocket somewhere haha
Thats what its all about tho man. the atractiveness to the muscle freakshow, the blatantly shocking reaction, that vid is so normal, but it is so fucking WIN
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Most women don’t like that much muscle tho…they think its nasty! [/quote]
This is bullshit.
Women like money, chocolate, shitty TV and cock once in awhile.
How much muscle is attached the the above is an after thought. [/quote]
Believe it. Women LOVE muscles. Women hate all of the negative shit they mentally associate with most guys who have muscles before that guy ever opens his mouth.
Women do NOT think like men. Asking a woman what she likes point blank with no qualifiers is just asking to be lied to.
“Do you like big muscles?”
“Eeeewwww”
“Do you like THESE big muscles attached to this 27 year old neuro-surgeon and bodybuilder who makes 300K a year and thinks your specific body type is perfect even if you gained 30lbs and who knows how to bake pancakes like your dad used to make and loves dogs like the one you had when you were five years old?”
“You’ll have to excuse me, I need to change my undies.”
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Most women don’t like that much muscle tho…they think its nasty! [/quote]
This is bullshit.
Women like money, chocolate, shitty TV and cock once in awhile.
How much muscle is attached the the above is an after thought. [/quote]
Believe it. Women LOVE muscles. Women hate all of the negative shit they mentally associate with most guys who have muscles before that guy ever opens his mouth.
Women do NOT think like men. Asking a woman what she likes point blank with no qualifiers is just asking to be lied to.
“Do you like big muscles?”
“Eeeewwww”
“Do you like THESE big muscles attached to this 27 year old neuro-surgeon and bodybuilder who makes 300K a year and thinks your specific body type is perfect even if you gained 30lbs and who knows how to bake pancakes like your dad used to make and loves dogs like the one you had when you were five years old?”
“You’ll have to excuse me, I need to change my undies.”[/quote]
ROfl. x2. women read cosmo and tell you what cosmo says they should think.
You do have your Pseudo-bitch now and then, but most women want the alpha, muscular, strong, bullheaded man.
[quote]jak3_dude wrote:
As for who is gonna sell more tubs of protein to the Guidos, I think the answer is none of them. They’re too ignorant to actually know who these guys are and what competitions they have or have not won, let alone which protein they prefer(endorse).[/quote]
You’d be surprised. I live in the homeland of the guido and have a bunch that go to my gym. I was surprised when I heard them talking about shows like the Arnold and discussing some of the more well know bodybuilders (aka Cutler, Kai, Dexter Jackson). Being big dudes themselves, its no surprise they look up to the biggest , most ripped guys out there.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]jak3_dude wrote:
As for who is gonna sell more tubs of protein to the Guidos, I think the answer is none of them. They’re too ignorant to actually know who these guys are and what competitions they have or have not won, let alone which protein they prefer(endorse).[/quote]
It would be silly for you to think that as truth.
LOL
Just because someone doesn’t lift the same way as you or I, because they don’t do tha squatzerz, doesn’t mean they aren’t a large market share. We are talking about people who are more dedicated to lifting then some people on this site here. They buy sups.
People love to shit on “bros” but fail to see the truth because they choose to be “superior” in mind, yet are inferior in build. (I’m not saying you JD, just in general.)[/quote]
I’m not denying they buy lots of supps, what I’m saying is I don’t think they really care who the Mr. O is…as long as the adverstisement in Muscular Development of w/e it is they buy looks good, they’ll buy it, no matter if it does do what it says it does or whether it’s Jay or Kai on the ad beside the tub of protein.
[quote]zraw wrote:
If they wont see Jay and Kai differently, why do you feel, or at least make it sound that way, that Kai would be a better ambassador than Jay for the sport? (Oh please dont point out David Henry.)[/quote]
Uh, because like we have said many times we are looking at this in the context of “another Arnold” and that requires a hell of a lot more personality than what Jay ever shows. Kai may not be the one either, but he has a more engaging personality than anyone else at the moment.
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Lol? No? Where? How?[/quote]
Are you serious? You mentioned it to me, not the other way around.
Their lifestyles are not the issue. Once again, dear slow one, the only reason I mentioned Jay’s lifestyle was to point out that they would both look strange overall to most people and that Kai’s dancing may even go unnoticed because most people consider all of this strange…THEREFORE, for the slow crowd, if we are talking about who is more engaging, it won’t be the monotone guy.
You aren’t very good at this and I am not sure why you keep bringing up his hairstyle so often long after everyone else has stopped discussing it.
I don’t think that Kai or Jay are perfect. Kai smacks of laying it on too thick with the metaphysical analysis and Jay is a nice guy but doesn’t have the canyons of charisma that a real vanguard needs.
I don’t have any issues with what Kai has done in the past, but I do see how that makes him problematic for the more developmentally retarded people out there.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
If they wont see Jay and Kai differently, why do you feel, or at least make it sound that way, that Kai would be a better ambassador than Jay for the sport? (Oh please dont point out David Henry.)[/quote]
Uh, because like we have said many times we are looking at this in the context of “another Arnold” and that requires a hell of a lot more personality than what Jay ever shows. Kai may not be the one either, but he has a more engaging personality than anyone else at the moment.
[quote]
Lol? No? Where? How?[/quote]
Are you serious? You mentioned it to me, not the other way around.
Actually, If we’re talking about another “Arnold”, Kai might not be in last place.
Arnold used to talk tin magazines about ganbanging chicks and not being embarrassed “fucking in front of other guys”.
The next arnold may very well be Kai Greene.
What about Phil Heath?
The guy’s got a great personality, seems cool and is always very enthusiastic when he speaks. He’s got a top 3 physique and was a high school athlete. Comes across as good-looking enough and relatable enough to be an awesome ambassador, if he wants to be.
Kai is impressive and passionate, but he’s kind of an odd one, and Jay is pretty monotone. No knock on their physiques.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Uh, because like we have said many times we are looking at this in the context of “another Arnold” and that requires a hell of a lot more personality than what Jay ever shows. Kai may not be the one either, but he has a more engaging personality than anyone else at the moment.
[/quote]
Actually, if we are talking about another “Arnold”, Arnold used to talk in magazines about gangbanging chicks and not being embarrassed about “fucking in front of other guys”.
The next arnold may very well be Kai Greene.
[/quote]
Well said. Arnold was a rebel. He played games with people. he was interesting because he wasn’t normal. he was a complete foreigner who could barely speak english well who basically barged in and stood out among thousands of people in the industry. He was active in an activity that at the time was considered to be for homosexuals by those looking to degrade it and one that had a MUCH smaller following back then than most here can fathom.
The next guy to stand out like that will likely be just as alien. It won’t be “the guy next door” especially when he can’t smile more than awkwardly during an interview.
Fact is, many people already think bodybuilding is gay. If you ask me, the fact that kai fucked a grapefruit is akin to marilyn monroe fucking the president. If he wins, and that comes out, that’s a shame for Kai (and not for your sexuality, heaven forbid the sport you claim to like has a quasi gay man at the forefront). I don’t see why it should affect his Olympia standings. fact is, this is Jay’s to lose, I think Kai is infinitely more fun to watch and seems to talk like he cares if we listen.
Jay talking “actually many people are surprised, but bodybuilding is a unique sport, years nd years of training.” Know what I liked? After the interview he was joking with the crew about fish, nd it was funny. He was challenging their perceptions of human nature and giving them insight into his life.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Uh, because like we have said many times we are looking at this in the context of “another Arnold” and that requires a hell of a lot more personality than what Jay ever shows. Kai may not be the one either, but he has a more engaging personality than anyone else at the moment.
[/quote]
The next arnold may very well be Kai Greene.
[/quote]
Nope, not even close dude.
Way too short to begin with, and he is only “charismatic” to others with similar interests, and still even only some of those people. “Normal people” won’t fall in love with him.
Watch Pumping Iron again, and any Kai video, if you still think that, I don’t even know what to say.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Recent interview on local Vegas news. [/quote]
I thought that he spoke pretty well. Thats the first time I’ve heard in (or any bodybuilder I think) interviewed by a non-weightlifting media source. I thought he did a good job for himself on the show. The guy interviewing also seemed genuinely interested which was nice. “we got tickets to the gun show” haha[/quote]
He is un-engaging. He is fairly monotone with very little facial expressions. It isn’t so much what you say in the public eye but how you get that point across. The average person watching that has no clue what his specific body fat percentage even means. They are looking at him to see if he looks approachable or if he is upholding the same “psychopath” label everyone with muscles is being boxed as lately.[/quote]
Seriously? To “normal” people Jay will sound like a down to earth man that can explain is point clearly AND consisely.
Kai, ur idol, will sound like a lunatic.
Btw, how is Kai’s life so different from Jay’s? What’s he doing more than eat eat train eat sleep eat eat train?[/quote]
This is exactly true. Ive shown some of my friends, non weightlifting friends, kai’s videos and they all think he’s completely lost it.
While Jay may not be the best speaker in terms of addressing people and being an ‘ambassador’ (I love it when people think that has anything to do with winning bodybuilding titles), I think he seemed pretty genuine in that clip, and the broadcasters seemed honestly friendly and interested, which isn’t always the case when they have ‘some bodybuilder’ on before a local contest.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
and being an ‘ambassador’ (I love it when people think that has anything to do with winning bodybuilding titles),
S[/quote]
You honestly don’t think that has anything to do with it?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
and being an ‘ambassador’ (I love it when people think that has anything to do with winning bodybuilding titles),
S[/quote]
You honestly don’t think that has anything to do with it?[/quote]
I dont. The judges are getting their paychecks regardless of who wins the O
5lb of fish a day. 5lb of fish…
Here I am trying to get down 2lb of mince beef a day. Goes to show how far I have to go, even without comparing bodyweight.
I think the REAL pro Body Builder that America wanted as their posterboy was Ronnie Coleman:
A: He’s a cop
B: He’s churchgoing boy from down south
C: If you’ve read any of his interviews, he says that people wouldnt hire him in Accounting because he was a black man in the south in the late 70’s/early 80’s. He conquered adversity, became a Law Enforcement officer and one of the greatest(If not THE greatest) Bodybuilders of all time, winning 8 consecutive titles.
D: Funny, Charismatic, Good on camera
E: Wrote a book
F: YEAH BUDDY!
Def. my fav BB’er of all time if i had to pick one.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
and being an ‘ambassador’ (I love it when people think that has anything to do with winning bodybuilding titles),
S[/quote]
You honestly don’t think that has anything to do with it?[/quote]
I dont. The judges are getting their paychecks regardless of who wins the O[/quote]
The “O” doesn’t matter. You have to be the WINNER at something in order to get the stage in the first place. Most people don’t know the Olympia from the Mr. America contest but the winner is what opens doors to speak in the first place.