[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Doesn’t anyone else want bodybuilding to stay a niche? I wouldn’t mind if bodybuilding got much less popular.[/quote]
I agree.
And I wouldn’t worry about it - bodybuilding will NEVER appeal to the mainstream. Ain’t EVER gonna happen.
I wouldn’t say never. MMA was a niche.
The photos on this page from the pre-events are awesome, you can really see just how huge they are when their doing normal things and wearing normal clothes. BEASTS.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
I wouldn’t say never. MMA was a niche.[/quote]
Well, I would.
Look at how long BB has been around for - if it was going to go mainstream, it would have already.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
I wouldn’t say never. MMA was a niche.[/quote]
Well, I would.
Look at how long BB has been around for - if it was going to go mainstream, it would have already.
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What isn’t mainstream is the actual posing. Lifting weights to get “swole” is going down in every urban neighborhood in the US. I’ve said it before, but the average guy I grew up with as a kid was more developed than most of the people on this site who supposedly live and breath training.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
I wouldn’t say never. MMA was a niche.[/quote]
Well, I would.
Look at how long BB has been around for - if it was going to go mainstream, it would have already.
[/quote]
What isn’t mainstream is the actual posing. Lifting weights to get “swole” is going down in every urban neighborhood in the US. I’ve said it before, but the average guy I grew up with as a kid was more developed than most of the people on this site who supposedly live and breath training.[/quote]
When you “grew up” wasn’t long ago either. I’m not saying it’s going to happen tommorrow, but you also have to look at how far bodybuilding’s come. I’m gonna leave hope for the future.
I mean, having all of them on Sportsnation, an ESPN show, is something that might not have happened necessarily 10 years ago. Especially with people in the sports world being outraged by baseball and other sports with athletes on steroids.
just saw a weigh in video…kai is 284.8lbs the day before the show…we’ll see huh?
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
just saw a weigh in video…kai is 284.8lbs the day before the show…we’ll see huh?[/quote]
To clarify this though he was in full sweats and sandals…less anyone think he’s stepping on stage anywhere near that.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
just saw a weigh in video…kai is 284.8lbs the day before the show…we’ll see huh?[/quote]
To clarify this though he was in full sweats and sandals…less anyone think he’s stepping on stage anywhere near that. [/quote]
Yeah, he may be heavier.
Kevin English just wrote in MD that he actually steps on stage nearly 20lbs heavier than his weigh in.
Sweats and sandals don’t weigh 20lbs.
What the heck does this guy do to gain that much weight back? It cant just be your run of the mill carb up.
[quote]Shlllink wrote:
What the heck does this guy do to gain that much weight back? It cant just be your run of the mill carb up.[/quote]
He eats a couple of 5 pound plates after his last workout before the show
Scott M is right, after all the water is sucked out he’ll be stepping on stage in the 260-270 range…which is a fuck lot bigger than last year at 240’s at the O.
to give perspective jay will be in the 250’s likely.
off to train back!!!
Haha those guys do not look very happy sittin around being depleted as fuck.
Lookin forward to tomorrow!
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I see a lot of talk about what would be good for the sport or bad for the sport. Or who would be the best ambassador for the sport. Doesn’t anyone else want bodybuilding to stay a niche? I wouldn’t mind if bodybuilding got much less popular.[/quote]
I think you are kinda missing the point, at least I was trying to make.
It isn’t about finding someone to make bodybuilding some huge sport that the public loves. These guys will always be “freaks” to the general public, and I would imagine most are proud to be seen as that.
I’m talking about a guy that transcends the sport. A guy that achieves. A god damn champion that even Janey Housewife in the burbs can be drawn to for whatever reason.
A guy that changes public perception from “Wow look at that freak, after he roid rages stabs his wife and beats his kids to death, I bet he comes after us. Fucking muscle bound loser must have a small dick, and is trying to over compensate.”
to something like “Hey, look at that freak”
All I’m asking for is someone to make testosterone good again.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I see a lot of talk about what would be good for the sport or bad for the sport. Or who would be the best ambassador for the sport. Doesn’t anyone else want bodybuilding to stay a niche? I wouldn’t mind if bodybuilding got much less popular.[/quote]
I think you are kinda missing the point, at least I was trying to make.
It isn’t about finding someone to make bodybuilding some huge sport that the public loves. These guys will always be “freaks” to the general public, and I would imagine most are proud to be seen as that.
I’m talking about a guy that transcends the sport. A guy that achieves. A god damn champion that even Janey Housewife in the burbs can be drawn to for whatever reason.
A guy that changes public perception from “Wow look at that freak, after he roid rages stabs his wife and beats his kids to death, I bet he comes after us. Fucking muscle bound loser must have a small dick, and is trying to over compensate.”
to something like “Hey, look at that freak”
All I’m asking for is someone to make testosterone good again.[/quote]
Very well articulated sir. I agree.
However, I would argue that someone who had that sort of… I’m not quite sure how to describe it. Personality? Leadership qualities? I know what you’re talking about. But I’d argue most people who are like that wouldn’t likely be drawn to any of the t-heavy sports. They’d probably end up going into something more mainstream or whatnot. In the end I guess it’s a waiting game maybe? Waiting for our “t-messiah” lol.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
A supreme rivalry is the greatest thing for any sport. I don’t see the need to argue over who would make a better ambassador for bodybuilding. The best scenario would be a rivalry between the two, whether it’s friendly or not it doesn’t matter.
Look at what Bird vs Johnson did for the sport of basketball, which was falling fast before their rivalry hit the stage. Some with the Ovechkin vs Crosby rivalry.
I know a Kai vs Jay rivalry will never reach the same level as Bird vs Johnson, but something even remotely similar in the world of bodybuilding (however that may exist) would do great things for the sport.[/quote]
I agree that competition is healthy, for sport and pursuits outside sport as well. I also believe a true rivalry competition means that both competitors seek to best each other and prevent a winning streak. So instead of having 3 time consecutive or 8 time consecutive champions we’re having different winners each year (Cutler, Greene, Greene, Cutler, Winklaar etc). Nothing wrong in having a winning streak, shows they are top of their game. But it would be nice to have some variety.