prefer vids and info like this much more then threads like “how much do you lateral raise.”
4:32 is some funny shit!!! dude is hero of mine, for where he’s been and what he’s done.
those who choose to highlight his “oddness” and criticize need to look at what he’s done and then re-evaluate what it is that you’ve done.
Generally, I like Kai and enjoy his interviews.
Sometimes, however, I feel the guy just needs to cut to the chase and stop being so long-winded in some of his comments.
I’m still mad that he got 4th place lol
Also, I didn’t realize Oscar’s wife was so attractive. How did THAT happen?
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
prefer vids and info like this much more then threads like “how much do you lateral raise.”
4:32 is some funny shit!!! dude is hero of mine, for where he’s been and what he’s done.
those who choose to highlight his “oddness” and criticize need to look at what he’s done and then re-evaluate what it is that you’ve done. [/quote]
Cool vid. And Oscar’s wife is hot. I bet she raises at least the 20s.
Yeah the result for him was pretty dissapointing, I personally would’ve put him ahead of Branch and Dex. I hope he would’ve been happy with 2nd, 'cause Cutler was just infalible that weekend.
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup; we all know Branch shocked everyone with his conditioning, but I agree that shape wise he was behind everyone on that 6 lineup, Kai on the other side was worse in his posing routine and in his conditioning than he was at the Arnold Classic, which I think was a drawback those days.
your correct, jay was on point that weekend. i believe however that an “on” Kai beats everyone, including an “on” Jay. when both are “on” Kai’s level of separation, detail, freakishness beats jay. that said i agree that Kai could have arguably been 2nd this year.
Branch was amazing grainy, vascular, made improvements…at best though he still was behind jay, kai, and dexter. that said heath looked better in the night show than the previous day, maybe not ahead of branch.
i’ve said this before about victor too, vic looks the best a few weeks out, his structure off season in particular is amazing, walking around the gym in his vids he’s amazing, on stage next to others he’s not as hard, dry, full.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Generally, I like Kai and enjoy his interviews.
Sometimes, however, I feel the guy just needs to cut to the chase and stop being so long-winded in some of his comments.[/quote]
Yah, it’s hard to understand his point sometimes. Massive run on sentences haha.
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
your correct, jay was on point that weekend. i believe however that an “on” Kai beats everyone, including an “on” Jay. when both are “on” Kai’s level of separation, detail, freakishness beats jay. that said i agree that Kai could have arguably been 2nd this year. [/quote] the only doubt I have about that is that Jay’s structure is wider, making him look more impressive.
[quote]Branch was amazing grainy, vascular, made improvements…at best though he still was behind jay, kai, and dexter. that said heath looked better in the night show than the previous day, maybe not ahead of branch. [/quote] giving it a better thought luck was on Jay’s side; the guy who will never beat him structure/shape wise was at his best, while the two who could make the most damage (Phil and Kai) had some circumstantial problems (Phil sick and Kai “off”).
[quote]i’ve said this before about victor too, vic looks the best a few weeks out, his structure off season in particular is amazing, walking around the gym in his vids he’s amazing, on stage next to others he’s not as hard, dry, full.[/quote] I think we have to give him some time, it’s been tough for him since his injury, hopefully he can fix his legs and nail it next year!
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup; [/quote]
…which is straight bullshit by the way.
This contest wasn’t supposed to be about who looked better than they did last year.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup;
…which is straight bullshit by the way.
This contest wasn’t supposed to be about who looked better than they did last year.[/quote]
yep, I think that was unfair, specially with this year’s lineup, whether they realized it or not.
It does go to show that no matter who you favor, you cant make a real life comparison till you get all of them up on stage. Anyway, when has the Olympia ever seriously been about the judging? I see it as politics more so. To much room for criteria when the cut off is 203lbs+ or something like that and everyone’s weight on stage is all over the place.
iT feels like when Kai talks he is preacher.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup;
…which is straight bullshit by the way.
This contest wasn’t supposed to be about who looked better than they did last year.[/quote]
and it wasn’t. Kai was placed correctly, so was Branch and Cutler. Sour grapes to believe otherwise
[quote]iSnack2.0 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup;
…which is straight bullshit by the way.
This contest wasn’t supposed to be about who looked better than they did last year.
and it wasn’t. Kai was placed correctly, so was Branch and Cutler. Sour grapes to believe otherwise[/quote]
and judging by your build you are an expert sir. you’re crazy, branch looked insane, great, he was on fire…for Branch. on his best day his structure alone DOES NOT BEAT THE TOP GUYS. branch should have fallen in line below kai, and dexter. he’s fortunate phil and vic were off.
that said Branch has come along way, he is still light years behind those six on a day to day basis, they are a tier above him no matter how you slice it.
*edit: alright the comment on your build was unwarranted you are at 240lbs, so good job on being moderately big, but you are a little soft, i’m 215lbs shorter and leaner than you. as mentioned though, you are not good at evaluating things…putting branch at 2nd.
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
iSnack2.0 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
But you know, judges were qualifying more the improvements they made from last year than making objective comparisons between the lineup;
…which is straight bullshit by the way.
This contest wasn’t supposed to be about who looked better than they did last year.
and it wasn’t. Kai was placed correctly, so was Branch and Cutler. Sour grapes to believe otherwise
and judging by your build you are an expert sir. you’re crazy, branch looked insane, great, he was on fire…for Branch. on his best day his structure alone DOES NOT BEAT THE TOP GUYS. branch should have fallen in line below kai, and dexter. he’s fortunate phil and vic were off.
that said Branch has come along way, he is still light years behind those six on a day to day basis, they are a tier above him no matter how you slice it.
*edit: alright the comment on your build was unwarranted you are at 240lbs, so good job on being moderately big, but you are a little soft, i’m 215lbs shorter and leaner than you. as mentioned though, you are not good at evaluating things…putting branch at 2nd.
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yes but it matters what they look like on the two days, not on a day to day basis. Branch was simply better on the weekend. His conditioning was beyond insane. On the second night I would of had it #1 cutler, #2 heath, #3 Warren.
however him being the first competitor walking out - he set the standard for conditioning, and he brought it. Meaning anyone less conditioned would be marked down.
What does my build have anything to do with evaluating the Olympia? Fact is I’ve managed too gain 40lbs this year and it’s only October - I’m trying to take the fastest way too getting huge, yes I may be soft at the moment but its a sacrifice I’m willing to make. I’m still young (just turned 22) and taking full advantage of my youth.
edit – I just looked at your profile and saw that you dont have any pics in there, the reason why I have myself as an avi is so that when I give advice, people can see what I look like and determine whether or not my advice is valid based on their assumption of my photo
also I believe Kai needs to give it a year his back lacks detail when compared to heath…it just looks like two slabs of meat where as heath’s back looks like its been carved
look i don’t want to turn this into a pissing contest, i changed my avatar just to be fair. it’s a picture taken in Feb. 2009 at about 200lbs, i’ve added 15lbs to my frame, lean pounds, since then as well. shooting for 10-15 more then i’ll re-evaluate where i’m at.
i understand the gaining weight to get big thing and understand it’s tough to hold onto low BF% while adding that much weight. i’ve gone from 145-215lbs since 06’. i’ve done it slower than you 70lbs in three years but understand.
yes Branch set the bar conditioning wise when he stepped out, i was blown away. but he still places behind dex, jay, kai…he’s the best branch but that still doesn’t beat those guys. it’s not just a conditioning contest, although conditioning is one aspect, a very important aspect, of an overall bodybuilding contest.
your assessment of Kai’s back, saying it needs work relative to phil’s lets me know where you are at with your knowledge of BB. Kai’s back is better than all Olympians on the stage minus Joel Stubbs, Phils back while improved is NARROW and less detailed by comparison. Kai Greene has one of the freakiest backs in the history of the sport, go look at pictures bro.
that said good luck w/ your gains.
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
yes Branch set the bar conditioning wise when he stepped out, i was blown away. but he still places behind dex, jay, kai…he’s the best branch but that still doesn’t beat those guys. it’s not just a conditioning contest, although conditioning is one aspect, a very important aspect, of an overall bodybuilding contest.
your assessment of Kai’s back, saying it needs work relative to phil’s lets me know where you are at with your knowledge of BB. Kai’s back is better than all Olympians on the stage minus Joel Stubbs, Phils back while improved is NARROW and less detailed by comparison. Kai Greene has one of the freakiest backs in the history of the sport, go look at pictures bro.
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not going to disagree with Heath being narrow when compared too the others, it’s something he really can’t change. Kai’s back.
this is again why i posted the vid at the beginning…kai was bigger at the O then at the Arnold, however his condition was sharper at the Arnold.
Kai wasn’t happy w/ 4th and as a result was back in the gym the Monday following the show. By 2010 Kai will hopefully nail down his size and condition then it wouldn’t really matter what phil, branch, jay or anyone does.
i’m a kai nut because #1 the guy’s physique is unlike anyone else. it’s bananas. #2 his story hits close to home and is very inspiring to me. how anyone doesn’t/isn’t a fan of Kai Greene is beyond me.
alright i’m done, second meal by 8am, work, eat again, work, eat again…train then go home and eat more repeat.
