Xyrem: Sleep Enhancer & GH Boost

Back in the late 1990s I was very dismayed when GHB was made a schedule one drug. Today a doctor informed me that it now exists on the U.S. market as the drug Xyrem. Even though GHB is schedule 1, Xyrem is available as a Schedule three drug (only the name is changed). I was going to see if I could get a prescription for it for sleep, but then I found out it costs about $720/month. No thanks. Otherwise, I would love to have some of this stuff. On top of it all, it turns out that it is a great Growth Hormone secratogue without the diabetic issues of the regular GH people inject. Check out this article by Ward Dean:

And, if you aren’t familiar with the cognitive enhancement research institute, go here: http://www.ceri.com/

Here’s my question. Anybody here using GHB/Xyrem? What are your experiences and how much does it cost in your country?

Bump…hoping to get some feedback.

My doctor had to go thru training to perscribe it and insurance covered most of it. It works like a champ, before my sinuses started getting messed up I would be dead to the world for 4 hours at a time. Without insurance it was near 500, atleast according to what the pharmacy told me.

[quote]rfish1966 wrote:
My doctor had to go thru training to perscribe it and insurance covered most of it. It works like a champ, before my sinuses started getting messed up I would be dead to the world for 4 hours at a time. Without insurance it was near 500, atleast according to what the pharmacy told me.[/quote]

Did you stop taking it? Also was it difficult to get up in the middle of the night to take a second dose (to get eight hours sleep)?

Did you ever have your IGF (growth hormone) tested during that time?

GHB�??Finally Gets Respect�??Now Available by Prescription
Ward Dean, M.D.

Gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB) is known to most of the general public as the FDA- and media-demonized and much-maligned �??synthetic, designer, date rape drug�?? (sic).

However, for the overwhelming majority of people who have actually used GHB, it is recognized as the most non-toxic, non-habit-forming, sleep-inducing substance known.

In addition to being the only known substance that induces, and actually improves, natural sleep, GHB is a highly effective treatment for a variety of hard-to-treat disorders (see Box). GHB is a naturally occurring endogenous substance (i.e., it exists in virtually every mammalian cell in small amounts).

Thus, it qualified as a dietary supplement under the 1994 Dietary Supplement Health & Education Act (DSHEA). In fact, VRP previously carried products (RenewTrient and SomatoPro) containing natural, endogenous precursors of GHB.

They were among our most popular supplements ever, before GHB was made a Schedule I Controlled Substance and the FDA/DEA went on the warpath against its precursors.

�??If the FDA doesn�??t like it, it�??s got to be good.�??

Before March 13, 2000, GHB and its precursors, e.g., gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) and 1,4-butanediol (BD), were available over the counter. Several were marketed as dietary supplements.

GHB gained popularity as a �??sociabilizer,�?? with disinhibiting and euphoric effects similar to alcohol (but without the liver- and brain-pickling side effects of alcohol). However, it was also a highly effective anti-depressant, pain reliever, and sleep inducer.

Thus, it was �??stepping on�?? some large pharmaceutical toes (i.e., reducing their profits). This would certainly seem to be a factor in the FDA�??s interest in restricting GHB�??s use. Almost from the inception of its popularity, the FDA began exerting its muscle to remove GHB and its precursors from the market.

To do this, FDA had to convince the public that GHB was an extremely toxic, highly addictive substance, with a primary use as a �??date rape drug.�??

(For the background of this devious campaign, read a number of my articles from back issues of Vitamin Research News, or on VRP�??s website, where you can also find a summary by attorney Paul Anacker).

The FDA�??s decade-long campaign of disinformation and intimidation finally worked. On February 18, 2000, Congress enacted Public Law 106-172 (titled the �??Hillory J. Farias and Samantha Reid Date-Rape Drug Prohibition Act of 2000�??), directing the Attorney General to place GHB in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.

That law also made GBL a �??List I Chemical�?? and mentioned BD as a possible Controlled Substance Analogue.

Orphan Medical and Xyrem

However, while the FDA and DEA were busy demonizing GHB, a small but enterprising pharmaceutical company was tortuously working its way through the complex new drug application process to get GHB approved as a prescription drug.

Orphan Medical specializes in developing pharmaceuticals for �??orphan diseases�?? (illnesses which are quite rare, and thus generally not considered worthy, from a profit perspective, to spend the time or energy trying to find cures).

Orphan Medical set out to develop GHB as a treatment for narcolepsy with cataplexy�??a rare sleeping disorder that causes inability to sleep at night resulting in sudden and unpredictable loss of muscle control during the day.

This condition can obviously be hazardous, and certainly limits one�??s employment opportunities and ability to carry out a normal life. Orthodox treatment for narcolepsy with cataplexy had consisted of mind-numbing hypnotic drugs to induce sleep, and chronic use of amphetamines during the day to maintain alertness.

After years of jumping through the administrative and medical hoops required by the FDA�??s complex new drug application process�??and with new hurdles to overcome because of the years of disinformation propagated by the government and major media, GHB was finally approved as a Schedule III drug for the treatment of narcolepsy with cataplexy on August 17, 2002.

Now trade-named Xyrem, and described by the euphemistic scientific name of �??sodium oxybate�?? (the sodium salt of GHB), GHB is now a drug available by prescription.

As with all prescription drugs, once approved by the FDA, physicians can prescribe it for patients for any of use, even for patients who don�??t suffer from the disease for which it was �??approved.�??

Prescribing Xyrem is a Little Different

However, it�??s not quite as easy to obtain Xyrem as other medications. One can�??t just obtain a prescription from any physician, and go down to the local drugstore to get the prescription filled.

In order to prescribe GHB, physicians must first sign up with the Xyrem Success Program, by calling toll free 866-997 3688 (866-XYREM88). The pharmacy will then send the physician product information which he must read, check off that he/she has read and understands the materials and fax it back to 866-470-1744.

This declares that the physician has read the materials, understands the indication, the dosing, and has educated the patient.

The physician also receives a special prescription pad that is to be used only for Xyrem. When a physician desires to prescribe Xyrem for a patient, the prescription is faxed to Xyrem Success Program, a department of Express Scripts, a specialty pharmacy in Missouri. Express Scripts has been given the sole franchise for disseminating GHB in the U.S.

Upon receipt of the prescription, educational material and a video are shipped overnight to the patient. The patient is asked to read the material and watch the video. A few days later a representative from the Success Program calls the patient, and goes through a series of questions to ensure the patient understands the information about the drug, how to use it and the penalties for diversion.

The patient is then sent a form that allows the Success Program to attempt to file this drug claim on the patient�??s insurance. The patient�??s insurance company (if the patient is insured) is called, to determine if insurance will pay for the Xyrem.

This becomes significant when one finds out that a month�??s supply of Xyrem is in the range of $250! (Although this is not especially high when compared to the cost of many prescription drugs, many users remember when a month�??s supply of pharmaceutical-grade GHB was in the range of $40-50 at health food stores.

Of course, the supplement companies did not have to incur the new drug application costs which Orphan Medical had to underwrite).

Although the relatively steep price deters many uninsured from continuing with the product, many without insurance don�??t mind paying it. For those who haven�??t been able to sleep, or who suffer from intractable illnesses not amenable to other treatments, $250 per month may be a small price to pay.

Despite the hassles of getting on the �??list�?? (Xyrem Success Program) and the time lapse from prescribing Xyrem until the first delivery (usually about 2-3 weeks), once all these administrative roadblocks have been successfully negotiated, Xyrem (GHB) arrives promptly by delivery service.

This is the �??closed loop�?? system developed by the FDA, DEA, and Orphan Medical to prevent diversion. (Xyrem has been made a Schedule III �??drug.�?? However, when used by an individual for whom it has not been legitimately prescribed, the FDA and DEA allege it is a Schedule I Controlled Substance.[1]

Schedule I means there is no medically useful purpose for a substance. It is the class in which crack cocaine and heroin are included).

From here on, a Xyrem prescription is relatively hassle-free. The prescription can only be filled for a maximum of three months at a time (I usually prescribe it for only one month, initially, titrating up until the patient arrives at the minimum effective dose).

Express Scripts efficiently keeps patients and physicians advised of the progress of the admini-strative process and when shipments have been made and received.

Although I have seen only one patient with narcolepsy (with cataplexy), I prescribe Xyrem on a regular basis for many other conditions for which Xyrem is appropriate.

Other indications for which I have prescribed Xyrem include chronic insomnia with daytime sleepiness (most common), chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, reflex sympathetic dystrophy nocturnal myoclonus (leg cramps at night), shingles, intractable migraine headaches, and neuralgias and neuropathies of various types.

For those who were able to obtain relief from pain, suffering, and inability to sleep soundly at night only with GHB, I�??m glad this miracle substance has once again become available, despite the current restrictions.


[1] Attorney Paul Anacker alleges otherwise. Paul Anacker is a retired attorney who is extremely knowledgeable about dietary supplements and other health topics, and was the lead editor of my book Biological Aging Measurement.

Paul has recently come out of retirement to consult on more than four dozen GHB-related cases, state and federal, and is currently co-counsel for five federal cases across the nation involving GHB or its precursors. Mr. Anacker knows more about GHB, its precursors and DSHEA then any attorney I know.

I would strongly advise anyone who has a GHB-related case to contact Paul, before hiring a local attorney (anacker@hotmail.com).

History of Dr. Dean and GHB

It’s divided into two doses, basically each nocks you out for 4 hours. After 4 hours you get up and take the second dose and go right back to bed. Never had growth hormone checked but after a week of taking it I would get shaky just like pumping out gh after a heavy squat day and yes recovery was great.

It is important to take it in two doses rather that one big one. It may seem obvious but the pharm grade stuff is not bathtub ghb it’s potent and could cause some serious harm if your not carefull with it. I actually have sinus surgery in two weeks and look forward to using it again after I can breath thru my nose.

The Doc I saw last night was willing to prescribe it to me.
Unfortunately, my health insurance is through Kaiser and, as he told me, it would be nothing less than miraculous if Kaiser were to prescribe Xyrem. I can’t manage to pay the $500/month. That’s just a bit too much.

Xyrem/GHB is a great drug, and is fairly simple to make from what I understand. That they are charging $500/month for a drug that could really help many people seems a crime.

It would be interesting if you could get your GH checked before you take Xyrem again and then if you got it checked after you start taking it again.

You might be able to appeal the decision if it is denied, atleast my doc did.

[quote]rfish1966 wrote:
You might be able to appeal the decision if it is denied, atleast my doc did.[/quote]

Well, you can appeal to an insurance firm, and my doctor told me that he ALWAYS has to do this when he prescribes Xyrem. The problem is Kaiser is an HMO. I only go to Kaiser for the most routine crap.

The doctor I am consulting in this case does not belong to Kaiser. I doubt he would have very much pull.

I just did find out that if Kaiser were permit me the Xyrem, I would still have to pay 300 dollars. I suspect that they would only allow me to have it, if I had narcolepsy (I don’t), since that was what it was approved for. Man, I want to try this stuff.

I am going to see if there is some other avenue. At the end of the year, I can switch from Kaiser to United Health Care insurance. I might try that.

There is only one company that is approved to make this stuff. They are getting 500 bucks a month per person. Back in the late 90s before it was scheduled it cost about 20-30 bucks a month, over the counter. Somebody is making some big bucks.

For sleep I use trazodone. It works very well and does not leave you feeling slow the next day when used properly. Start at 50mg. Most need to increase the dose as the body gets used to it. I am settled on 100mg. 150mg makes me slow the next morning.

$4.00 per month generic as 50, 100 or 150mg tablets

Increases dopamine. If you feel transformed the next day, after first dose for me, that means that your dopamine levels were low.

Worth a try for the sleep and this might have a very large effect as a change in mood, energy and motivation. With low dopamine, it is hard to feel joy or reward. Without the reward system working, motivation is not there.

Worth $4.00 for a trial.

Trazodone increases CYP450 activity and can improve estrogen clearance. Many drugs do the opposite.

Low dopamine hurts libido. If low, increasing dopamine will increase libido.

Wellbutrin also increases libido for those who have low dopamine levels. Wellbutrin does not have negative sexual side effects. A good alternative to SSRIs.

Increasing dopamine lowers prolactin and that improves libido as well. Low dopamine can be expected to increase prolactin.

Dostinex/cabergoline also increases dopamine and lowers prolactin. For those who are suffering from low dopamine, cabergoline can create the benefits of restored dopamine. This is different from wellbutrin that creates dopamine effected in the brain, and body to some extent, indiscriminantly.

Cabergoline creates dopamine in different ways and may do this in parts of the brain; to a greater advantage. I don’t expect that doctors will prescribe this as an antidepressant. Insurance companies would not go there.

I have worked with some who were not feeling right after they settled into TRT, who found that trazodone and/or wellbutrin were transforming.

Many loose serotonin and dopamine as part of their aging process. Restoring these can improve quality of life. SSRIs are totally inapropriate for that situation as emotions can be killed, as well as libido.

Note that l-tryptophan is now back on the market.

Ksman and all. The doctor I went did indeed put me on Trazodone in lieu of Xyrem (still interested in this but the price is a killer).

I am very impressed with Trazadone. It’s pretty incredible stuff, even though I have only been taking it for three nights so far. The first night I got such strong “wood” that I started getting paranoid, thinking that maybe I was going to be that rare case who gets priapsism from it!

I have also noticed better mood AND better sex…and that is after only a couple of days.

50 mgs was not enough for my sleep. 100 mgs seems to do the job, though.

Ideally, I would do one month on Xyrem (GHB) and one month of the Trazodone. I would get the dopamine benefits of Trazodone that way and the Growth Hormone benefits of Xyrem.

What can I say…Better living through chemistry!

Trazadone worked great for a few days but my sinuses went nuts and I couldn’t sleep with them blocked but after surgery on the 24th I hope to go back on it.

I used GHB years ago right before it became illegal. I loved it . The sleep was great, my workouts were great, no aches and pains . Be very careful it is addictive.

[quote]gambit10 wrote:
I used GHB years ago right before it became illegal. I loved it . The sleep was great, my workouts were great, no aches and pains . Be very careful it is addictive.[/quote]

Gambit, what was your experience in weaning yourself off of it?

Unfortunately, I was addicted. I took the legal road and got prescribed benzo’s as I was on probation . I would suggest not to try it. all the benefits can be obtained other ways . If your doctor will prescribe ghb then he should prescribe pretty much anything if you really need it.

Ok folks, I got a FREE one month trial prescription for XYREM. I had my first experience last night, and I will record my impressions after I have taken it a few nights.

I am told that the addictive potential is very small to Xyrem, and to avoid any possibility of this, I am going to skip a night or two of it every week.

I have just been on the phone with an expert on GHB/Xyrem from Cognitive Enhancement Research Institute and he tells me that if you take Xyrem once a week, you get the boosted Growth Hormone effect, however, if you take it nightly, there is no Growth Hormone effect. I will talk to him more about that and give a report back.

After 8 days on Xyrem, I have decided to stop using it.

Day 1) I always get a bit anxious the first time I try a new drug. No different with Xyrem. As a result, instead of
falling asleep on this first day, I stay awake. As a result, I get to experience Xyrem (GHB) in the waking state.
This stuff is like( MDMA (Ecstasy) x 10 ) + Viagra x 10 + Yohimbine x 10)

Unlike Ecstasy where you sometimes get a speedy effect, there is none of that with Xyrem, just euphoria, clarity and love. Whereas Ecstasy is not an aphrodisiac per se, Xyrem definitely is.

I am afraid that after this, my experience with Xyrem as a sleep enhancer goes downhill. After my third day I started getting diarrhea, a touch of nausea and headache. I sleep 7-8 hours but don’t feel refreshed. I have a “flat” feeling all day long. If someone had told me I had won the lottery, I probably would have just given them a blank stare.

After such a short time on Xyrem, I didn’t experience any withdrawal symptoms once I stopped, not even rebound insomnia. That’s good.

So went my brief experience with Xyrem. For me, it didn’t work as a sleep enhancer. For some people, however, it appears to be a miracle worker. Good for them. If I use it in the future, it would just be used in a (VERY) occasional recreational way, not as an on-going supplement. I also think that the company really downplays the side-effects (surprise, surprise). Like I said, I had no side-effects until after being on it for a few days.