UGL, the stuff I get is about .70 per IU
how much do you weigh? I could probably give you some baseline numbers that would make you ‘competitive’ at an amateur level at whatever weight class you’d fall in. Comparing yourself to a pro like Tyler Young is silly, he’s literally one of the 10 or 20 best middleweight strongmen in the world currently. You wouldn’t expect to find anything close to his numbers at a typical amateur show.
Somewhere between 215-220 depending how many battles I lose with carbs from the previous day. I can lean out more (and need to) as I only have a barely visible 4-pack; I imagine I’d have a slightly visible 6-pack at 200-205 though.
This isn’t lost on me - it just only takes one person like that to show up to a meet and suddenly it seems less fun though. Happy to hear some competitive numbers in the 200-215 range though
EDIT:
I don’t want to come off as someone whose finding excuses not to do something - I’m actually just not super interested in competing at the moment. I do think that a lot of strongman training methods would carry over nicely into a powerbuilder type physique though, as well as adding some all-around athleticism.
I have a different perspective, but used to think like that. Those people IME, are almost always really excited to share tips to get better and other good info. If course, they are usually genetically superior to me, so I take it with a grain of salt.
It’s better to lose to really good guys, than to beat nobodies imo.
I hope you understand the intent for me bringing up Tyler young. I wasn’t asking him to compare himself to Tyler young in a competitive sense, my point was to show that @Andrewgen_Receptors height is inconsequential to how far he can go in the sport.
My point wasn’t to say that you need to be as strong as Tyler young, and it’s rare you’ll get a guy like that signing up at a local competition.
I’m not so delusional to tell you to get into the sport you gotta be strong as an ox. In fact I said quite the opposite early on.
BW: 243
BP: 126/68
macros yesterday: 215/75/445
Happy to hear some competitive numbers in the 200-215 range though
@flipcollar may have a different perspective than I, but I think some good baseline numbers for a lightweight novice male would be:
max log/axle press: 220
max deadlift: 475
yoke run: 500 lbs, 100 ft, 30s
max stone load: 250
I could probably come up with others, but I think having those numbers would make you a fairly competitive novice
Sounds like I’m good on the deadlift front, but I’m lost on log/axle press, yoke run or stone load - just haven’t had anywhere to test or train these. I have a 1RM Military press of 185ish but I never really trained for heavy military until recently - and I doubt it translates well to a log press. Still, glad to know some competitive numbers aren’t miles away for me!
185 is decent for a strict press. If you aren’t familiar with push pressing, take a look at it. barbell OHP is close enough to axle that you should be good. Log is a bit different, but a lot of the same muscles are recruited. People don’t realize how technical a log press actually is though.
If you can squat in the 400’s a 500 lb yoke should be easy enough. Most people have more trouble with being fast, than with actually picking up the yoke.
As far as stones, it’s not easy to replicate stone loads without a stone, but I have heard that zercher front squats have decent carryover and, my personal favorite, SSB front squats, really make loading easier.
As far as stones, it’s not easy to replicate stone loads without a stone
Sandbag? Nice that one can increase the weight of the bag as they progress.
Yea this is true, in my head I was thinking that if a place doesn’t have stones it probably wouldn’t have sandbags, but as I type it out that seems silly
I think @Andrewgen_Receptors has some home gym equipment. If he want to train strongman, I am betting a sandbag is a good investment.
@mnben87 I can confirm that no commercial gym I’ve ever trained at has had either stones OR sandbags lol.
I do actually have a home gym (with a recent addition of a Rogue sled)
I need more plates, and I don’t think my neighbors are happy I painted 5 yard increments out to 40 yards across the cul-de-sac though
I do have a few items on the wishlist… (not in any order)
- adjustable husaffel (spelling?) stone
- adjustable kettlebell up to 80lbs
- Spud yoke straps (turns a barbell into a yoke with plates)
- maybe a sandbag-type implement, not sold on it yet though
I hope you understand the intent for me bringing up Tyler young.
For sure. I definitely understood the point, I just saw that he took it in a different direction.
max log/axle press: 220
max deadlift: 475
yoke run: 500 lbs, 100 ft, 30s
max stone load: 250
I think that’s more or less ‘right’.
I think if @Andrewgen_Receptors actually wanted to dip his toes into competition, it would likely make sense to try to weigh in for the 200 class, at least to start. The ‘heavier’ middleweight division can be brutal. But as you said, the novice class isn’t so bad.
Here’s what I would say, long term, can be competitive in the 200 class at most local shows:
max log/axle 260
max deadlift 550
max stone 300
And I’m not good at figuring out what times with runs are good, so I’ll leave it at that. Those numbers, to me, could actually WON a local show in the 200 open class. Even if a monster shows up, you’re still right there. Those are similar numbers to what I could do when I started winning as a 200.
You have to remember, most of the real monsters aren’t doing very many small shows, unless it happens to be at their home gym or something. Especially when you get to middleweight, when you have a pro class. LW class can be more challenging because we don’t have a pro division, although with the Clash series, OSG, and both nationals, we are seeing more ‘big’ shows.
Side note: anyone here see the 65kg womens clash event over the weekend? It was held at the Metroflex gym I used to train at. I had the opportunity to watch it live, absolutely incredible. Those girls are ridiculous.
I could likely make the 200 weight class and actually look really good, which is my main goal - so that is definitely something to consider. Those numbers seem still relatively within reach, considering I’ve never actually trained for strength before. If i get into this, it won’t be until I graduate - so another year or so, but it does sound fun
Side note: anyone here see the 65kg womens clash event over the weekend? It was held at the Metroflex gym I used to train at. I had the opportunity to watch it live, absolutely incredible. Those girls are ridiculous.
Is that the one that Rhiannon Lovelace won? She’s incredible… she’s a freak athlete/strongman
Yep! She absolutely killed it. Her deadlift record with the axle that she set at the show was pretty clearly not even a true max effort. I’d bet she had closer to 550 in her.
That’s wild. She’s pretty light and has some incredible feats of strength under her belt. If I’m not mistaken, she is also the lightest person to ever lift the Dinnie Stones.
To be totally real about it, I am not certain I would be able to lift the Dinnie Stones, but I’ve also never tried anything like that.
The heaviest thing I have ever picked up was a 715 yoke, the heaviest thing I’ve ever picked up in my hands was a 675 lb wheelbarrow DL for reps. I think the Dinnie Stones are a combined 730?
I think the Dinnie Stones are a combined 730?
That sounds right. I’ve done 800 on a trap bar, but I know the dinnie ring handles are a different animal. I have really good grip strenght, but who knows. It would be tough.