cause you showed me the error of my ways
[quote]JimmyOZ wrote:
Pound4Pound wrote:
MisterAmazing wrote:
So I can kick the piss out of your dumb ass
LOLOLOLOLOL Not if that’s your skinny awkward looking ass in your avatar!!
umm…his looks pretty identical to yours mate…lol
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heres mine, lets see his and yours bitch
[quote]keysersozae wrote:
why is anyone still responding to this pound4pound bum? he’s an idiot, whose argument has degenerated to “i could beat you up, because you lift weights, and since that doesnt make you tough, I’m tougher than you.” thats sounds about 3rd grade to me…just let this die[/quote]
You just responded. Maybe you should take your own advise.
Pound4Pound,
Your house looks like a fucking dump!
Stpo wasting everybody’s time, including your own and go do something functional, like tidying up.
Wheels
Ps your rear double bicep is shit!
Pps senseless flaming is good fun and your making it so easy, tough guy!
[quote]steelwheels wrote:
Pound4Pound,
Your house looks like a fucking dump!
Stpo wasting everybody’s time, including your own and go do something functional, like tidying up.
Wheels
Ps your rear double bicep is shit!
Pps senseless flaming is good fun and your making it so easy, tough guy![/quote]
Let’s seee your RDB tough guy
An interesting bit of anecdotal trivia…
I trained JKD, boxing, and submission wrestling for a few years. Then I moved to a new city and couldn’t find a good trainer, so I slowly transitioned into powerlifting.
About a year and a half goes by and a local NHB fighter starts doing his classes at my gym. I had seen the guy fight in a local “King of the Cage” type thing, and he was pretty good. So I decide to check his class out. It’s Brazilian jui-jitsu.
I come in and warm-up while watching some of the black belts roll. They looked pretty good, and I hadn’t trained in over a year and a half- I had just been powerlifting. “I’m gonna get stomped” I say to myself and dive in.
I beat four black belts, all in my weight class. Only the actual NHB fighter tapped me (he was a weight class below me, BTW), and I gave him a run for his money. My techniques were a little sloppy, my timing off, and some of my submissions weren’t up to snuff. But because I was so much stronger than these guys I was able to break out of several submission attempts, control the pace, take them down hard, and suffocate them with a lethal side mount. All of that after neglecting fight training for a year and half and concentrating on weights.
There’s a lot to be said for strength/power, especially in grappling. Of course, I’d bet five bucks that if that night was a boxing night instead of a grappling night, I would have been swallowing teeth…
[quote]Pound4Pound wrote:
steelwheels wrote:
Pound4Pound,
Your house looks like a fucking dump!
Stpo wasting everybody’s time, including your own and go do something functional, like tidying up.
Wheels
Ps your rear double bicep is shit!
Pps senseless flaming is good fun and your making it so easy, tough guy!
Let’s seee your RDB tough guy
[/quote]
You look like you lift, so why the anger? Did you get beat up by someone smaller than you? Insulted by a women? Why the sudden attack?
What’s Art good for? To look at.
What are weights good for? To pick up and put down.
Why? Choose your own reason.
[quote]JavaGuru wrote:
“The history of strength training started with the ancient Greeks. Hippocrates eloquently explained the principle behind weight training when he wrote “that which is used develops, and that which is not used wastes away.” Progressive resistance training dates back to at least the 6th century BC, when legend has it that wrestler Milo of Croton trained by carrying a newborn calf on his back every day until the calf was fully grown. Another Greek, the physician Galen, described strength training exercises using the halteres (an early form of dumbbell) in the 2nd century AD.”
Archaelogists have found frescoes depicting ancient greek athletes using primitive barbells in training. The very first professional athletes recognized the benefits.
Evidence shows that the practice of resistance exercises dates way back to as much as 4500 years ago. Ancient sculptures and wall paintings of men lifting heavy bags and objects can be found in Egypt. Most of these works of art depict men with muscular bodies, which by today’s standards would be considered bodybuilders.
Roman Gladiators and Soldiers trained with a wooden version of the gladius that weighed roughly twice that of the real weapon, to develop strength endurance and undoubtedly,extra muscle.
As for your misconception about “being big” making you slow and awkward.
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=716365
Here is a quote from Berardi’s article;
“Five foot five inches tall?
One hundred eighty pounds?
Eight percent body fat?”
These guys hunted mastadons which required tremendous athletic ability.
Have you seen a women’s fitness competition. They all train with weights and are muscular by female standards but extremely flexible and agile.
Research in the 60s and 70s proved that correctly performed resistance exercise does not negatively affect flexibility Alter, 1996. The Science of Flexibility, Human Kinetics, p151.
Weight-training exercises have been shown to improve active ROM (range of motion), Tumanyan & Dzhanya, 1984
Groves and Gayle (1989) surveyed the top 100 men’s college basketball teams from a the poll of USA Today. Their results stated that 98% of the top 100 schools had a pre-season weight-training program. Seventy five percent of them had an in-season training program. The percentages of the schools that provided off-season and summer programs were 88 and 64 respectively. The ANOVA test also showed that schools having an in-season weight-training program ranked higher than those without such a program.
Although this correlation did not indicate that strength training led to a better record, it reflected that 87% of coaches and athletic directors supported the idea of strength training.
Groves, B.R. & Gayle, R.C. (1993). Physiological changes in male basketball players in year-round strength training. Journal of Strength and Conditioning research. 7(1), 30-33.
There are numerous studies showing a relationship between athletic performance and strength. While you can develop endurance strength and elastic strength without weight training maximal strength can only be achieved by adding resistance (weight training).
Strong correlation between sprinting speed and jumping speed with maximal strength on the squat.
Br J Sports Med 2004;38:285-288
Maximal Strength training increases aerobic endurance performance.
Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2002 Oct;12(5):288-95.
Maximal strength contributes to power in well trained collegiate throwers.
Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, 2003, 17(4), 739?745
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What, nobody responds to anything backed up by science, just opinions? C’mom this is testosterone.net…
[quote]JavaGuru wrote:
What, nobody responds to anything backed up by science, just opinions? C’mom this is testosterone.net…[/quote]
I would respond, but you didn’t use “fuck” once.
It’s a pity too, because it’s a good post.
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
Pound4Pound wrote:
At 180lbs I could kick any 220 pound weightlifter with no fighting back-ground. No trying to sound tough but you are the one that starting equating lifting weights to fighting ability.
So then, given your analogy, this guy could easily kick all of our asses, even yours?[/quote]
SWR, you got me laying in the floor about to piss myself.
I love the Nation!!
[quote]Fenris wrote:
An interesting bit of anecdotal trivia…
I trained JKD, boxing, and submission wrestling for a few years. Then I moved to a new city and couldn’t find a good trainer, so I slowly transitioned into powerlifting.
About a year and a half goes by and a local NHB fighter starts doing his classes at my gym. I had seen the guy fight in a local “King of the Cage” type thing, and he was pretty good. So I decide to check his class out. It’s Brazilian jui-jitsu.
I come in and warm-up while watching some of the black belts roll. They looked pretty good, and I hadn’t trained in over a year and a half- I had just been powerlifting. “I’m gonna get stomped” I say to myself and dive in.
I beat four black belts, all in my weight class. Only the actual NHB fighter tapped me (he was a weight class below me, BTW), and I gave him a run for his money. My techniques were a little sloppy, my timing off, and some of my submissions weren’t up to snuff. But because I was so much stronger than these guys I was able to break out of several submission attempts, control the pace, take them down hard, and suffocate them with a lethal side mount. All of that after neglecting fight training for a year and half and concentrating on weights.
There’s a lot to be said for strength/power, especially in grappling. Of course, I’d bet five bucks that if that night was a boxing night instead of a grappling night, I would have been swallowing teeth…[/quote]
you tapped four black belts in BJJ at a gym
you are so fucking lying right now. who were they? this can be verified within the day. who was the fighter
if it is a typo and you meant blue belts, then accept my apologies
[quote]Pound4Pound wrote:
Other than elite athletes, what is weight training good for? Most of my friends that are exceptional athletes rarely lift, the ones that lift and are big are uncoordinated, unathletic, unflexible, out-of-shape useless tools.
It’s definately not to look good because it’s been proven that sprints and bodyweight excercises will build a proportioned, functional body that is far more attractive to the opposite sex than a deformed, out of shape, bulked up, unathletic weight lifting build.
It’s not for improved real-life functional strength for work etc. Most weight training simply does not carry over to real world activities and most really strong individuals such as farmers and lumber jacks never touch a weight.
So why do it, if the only thing you get from it is being able to say you lifted 10 more pounds than 2 months ago on a certain lift? In those two months you also gained a little weight, look a little worse and are a little more unathletic. YES!! Just what I want!!
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You’re an idiot and I ain’t even wasting my time reading anymore of this thread!
I did mean blue belts, thanks for pointing it out… ass. LOL.
[quote]Pound4Pound wrote:
Other than elite athletes, what is weight training good for?[/quote]
Genetically, I have an upper body problem. While my legs will happily slap muscle on at the slightest provocation, my arms, back, and chest don’t. So if I don’t do something about that, I look distinctly bottom-heavy. I’m also tall, so a “normal” amount of muscle doesn’t exactly look normal on me. It looks skinny and emaciated and rather like I’ve been through a round of chemo.
Until I started lifting weights and saw what a couple extra inches looked like, I didn’t realise how pathetic and weak I looked. But by using weights, I can isolate my upper body and concentrate my efforts on specific areas that look out of balance. I don’t look like a cancer patient anymore. I don’t look like a bodybuilder, either. Most people are surprised to learn that I lift weights.
The people who get really big are a little crazy. It’s hard to get big in the first place, and getting REALLY big goes far beyond the edge of reason. Please don’t judge the rest of us by those freaks. We certainly stand in awe of that kind of devotion, but it’s sort of like the awe you feel when you see a guy who can stick really large objects up his ass - while you are indeed impressed, that does not by any stretch of the imagination mean you want to be like him.
Well, YOU might, but I certainly don’t.
[quote]elliot007 wrote:
Fenris wrote:
An interesting bit of anecdotal trivia…
I trained JKD, boxing, and submission wrestling for a few years. Then I moved to a new city and couldn’t find a good trainer, so I slowly transitioned into powerlifting.
About a year and a half goes by and a local NHB fighter starts doing his classes at my gym. I had seen the guy fight in a local “King of the Cage” type thing, and he was pretty good. So I decide to check his class out. It’s Brazilian jui-jitsu.
I come in and warm-up while watching some of the black belts roll. They looked pretty good, and I hadn’t trained in over a year and a half- I had just been powerlifting. “I’m gonna get stomped” I say to myself and dive in.
I beat four black belts, all in my weight class. Only the actual NHB fighter tapped me (he was a weight class below me, BTW), and I gave him a run for his money. My techniques were a little sloppy, my timing off, and some of my submissions weren’t up to snuff. But because I was so much stronger than these guys I was able to break out of several submission attempts, control the pace, take them down hard, and suffocate them with a lethal side mount. All of that after neglecting fight training for a year and half and concentrating on weights.
There’s a lot to be said for strength/power, especially in grappling. Of course, I’d bet five bucks that if that night was a boxing night instead of a grappling night, I would have been swallowing teeth…
you tapped four black belts in BJJ at a gym
you are so fucking lying right now. who were they? this can be verified within the day. who was the fighter
if it is a typo and you meant blue belts, then accept my apologies
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I didnt want to be disrespectful but I thought the same thing? I read along and when I seen 4 Black belts I was like whoa because even purple belts are extremely dangerous in BJJ. Also being a wrestler/boxer I know that my muscular physic hinders my perfomance on the mat and the ring (its ok though because i no longer compete). You see power for fighting comes more from speed then muscles! Also Muscle consume alot of your heart rate so you will run out of air pretty fast! You see guys like Fedor who appear to have flacid bodys but are in such good shape and have so much power!
Anyways my points
Blackbelt in BJJ 6 to 10 years of 5 day a week training! Very hard to beat!
Muscles mean very little in MMA, Air and Skill is what wins matches
Dont mean to offend,
FF
It’s a hobby. Some people build and fly RC airplanes. Some people collect vintage Betty Page pinups. Some people restore antique tractors, or go peak-bagging, or spend their weekends playing with the band.
And some of us, along with those other hobbies, try to add 10 pounds to our deadlifts.
This is my rationalization for lifting. I can argue the health and longevity benefits - if my father had been carrying a bit more muscle, he could have extended his life considerably. I can debate about what women find attractive, but I’ve rarely gone without. I’m old enough not to need muscle to intimidate people when needed. So, why spend 3 nights out of 7 at the gym?
It’s a hobby.
hey people.
you all had great answers, but i lift for a more deeper reason.
i have severe depression and dont want to take meds.
when i lift im not depressed. period.
oh yeah,
and i cant do any cardio stuff because my knee is non functional above walking, and even then that someimes hurts.
[quote]supahtony wrote:
hey people.
you all had great answers, but i lift for a more deeper reason.
i have severe depression and dont want to take meds.
when i lift im not depressed. period.
[/quote]
Me to brother. I do feel your pain.
When it starts creeping up, I go to my temple of relief. Its part of my first post on page 1.
I take one medication but lifting is part of my everyday life. There are quite a few of us on this site that are experiencing the same as you and I.
It is my escape and quality time.
You are not alone. That is the very best thing about the Nation. Going to this site in itself is thearapy too.
JW