Why Do You Take Roids?

[quote] You are so full of SH!T . You desreve an A$$ kicking just for telling that TALL TALE . I bet all your “PROTEIN” shakes were “BANANNA” smoothies . And when it comes to the statement “ALL-NATURAL” I dispute that such a thing really exists ,as one can look at lifting weights alone as enhancing one above their their natrural build .

And I don’t blame you for that B.S. post ,as much as I do your parents for for painting your CRIB with lead based paint .

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another sad case of roid-rage…

I did it to bring better proportion to my body. It was that, or surgery.

Women were always frightened because I was so large down there. Sure, a few of the freakier ones thought it was cool, but most women fainted or started crying.

Now, after adding 60+ pounds of juiced up muscle, it blends in a little better. Kinda like parking a semi at a truckstop instead of a bike rack. Sure, it’s still huge, but it doesn’t seem out of place.

:wink:

[quote]Mykayl wrote:
i was addressing blok, not you. i don’t give a rat’s ass what you think.[/quote]

Yet you felt the need to reply to my post. You referred to no one in particular and attacked the entire AAS community. Pardon me if I take exception to your stupidity.

So it takes a real man to determine the facts? Tell me what facts need to be determined here. You are the one talking out of utter stupidity.

I have no need to try your program. Wait…check that…DADDY’s program.

Shove your apologies up your skinny ass. Until you back up this wonder program that daddy created with real proof - you are nothing but a poser, and a skinny one at that. Words mean dick. And so far that’s all you have, a bunch of words.

If that’s your definition of being a man - daddy didn’t teach you very well.

I have noticed a pattern of Mykayl hijacking threads to promote his idiotic program that negates steroids, supplements, and the kitchen sink.

Mykayl, a bit of advice to you, you may want to abandon this behavior because it is tarnishing your character. Show some progress, or shut up until you can.

In response to the opener:

I can’t find them from any local sources, and if I could they would probably be too expensive for me.

fair enough. you’ll all get your photographic moment of truth come year’s end. i would have waited a full 6 months from the time i started, but what the hell. some other guys just recently started on it, so they’ll post their progress as well when the time comes.

i found a pic of me from late july '06; i’ll take the old ones down when i post my latest x-mas pics so you can see the difference. i’m lying down though, so i’m not sure how good a comparison it will make.

1-3 years to get contest size is pretty damned good. that may not be as quick as roids, but it’s good enough for me. we’ll see about character as time progresses. until thenl you can all laugh all you want; it’ll make the fall that much harder. i’ve posted enough for now.

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
I have noticed a pattern of Mykayl hijacking threads to promote his idiotic program that negates steroids, supplements, and the kitchen sink.

Mykayl, a bit of advice to you, you may want to abandon this behavior because it is tarnishing your character. Show some progress, or shut up until you can.

[quote]Mykayl wrote:
fair enough. you’ll all get your photographic moment of truth come year’s end. i would have waited a full 6 months from the time i started, but what the hell. some other guys just recently started on it, so they’ll post their progress as well when the time comes.

i found a pic of me from late july '06; i’ll take the old ones down when i post my latest x-mas pics so you can see the difference. i’m lying down though, so i’m not sure how good a comparison it will make.

1-3 years to get contest size is pretty damned good. that may not be as quick as roids, but it’s good enough for me. we’ll see about character as time progresses. until thenl you can all laugh all you want; it’ll make the fall that much harder. i’ve posted enough for now.

Petedacook wrote:
I have noticed a pattern of Mykayl hijacking threads to promote his idiotic program that negates steroids, supplements, and the kitchen sink.

Mykayl, a bit of advice to you, you may want to abandon this behavior because it is tarnishing your character. Show some progress, or shut up until you can.

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I will do you one better than that. I have been working out since late August this year, while it seems you have been working out since August. I have been on nothing more than OTC supplements, mostly from Biotest.

My August pic is in my profile, and just for shits and giggles a pic of me 9 weeks later in October is also there. Perhaps that will give you an idea of where I might be at now about a month later.

I wasn’t going to post any progress until December, but frankly I think it is time for you to put up or shut up.

I will post a pic of me currently if you post a pic of you currently. We can compare progress even though your “christmas” pic really doesn’t tell a dam thing.

No Bullshit sweatshirt on either. Time to put up or shut up. Enough of this crap. Time to throw down.

[quote]I will do you one better than that. I have been working out since late August this year, while it seems you have been working out since August. I have been on nothing more than OTC supplements, mostly from Biotest.

My August pic is in my profile, and just for shits and giggles a pic of me 9 weeks later in October is also there. Perhaps that will give you an idea of where I might be at now about a month later.

I wasn’t going to post any progress until December, but frankly I think it is time for you to put up or shut up.

I will post a pic of me currently if you post a pic of you currently. We can compare progress even though your “christmas” pic really doesn’t tell a dam thing.

No Bullshit sweatshirt on either. Time to put up or shut up. Enough of this crap. Time to throw down.
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i don’t have a pic of me now; won’t get one 'til christmas. like i said, i’ll also be posting one of me from late july '06 for a side-by-side comparison. i’ll shut up for now, but only for now.

I know its a dead old thread but I just love coming back to this and the utter turd contained therein. I’m sure others agree. What say we give it a bit of a revival lads.

Did you look at this dumbass’s pics? what a punk…

Wow, thanks for reheating this post lol.

1.) I was in the Navy for 6 years and I promise you we never learned any kind of bodybuilding or training, all you do is pushups and situps. When I was on the boat I got screamed at for trying to sneak a 4th meal.

2.) look at this guy’s pics lol

[quote]Testexpert wrote:
I take steroids, several cycles t/o the year. Why? They make me feel better. With 1 testicle (long story, involves cancer) I feel like playing with barbie dolls when I am not on them. Not a horrible thing, seeing as how I have 2 daughters. But, I feel like a fake wothout them. I don’t feel like I was meant to feel.

MEN have Testosterone for a reason, we’re MEN. Pushing the natural enevelope further makes us who are or dare to be.
Steroid users, God Bless them all, each and everyone. For without these men who forge the unknown, most of this info would be unknown. G’day Mate.[/quote]

Great post

I agree with all the pro-juice answers… This is like asking women why they get tits, lips and other body parts enhanced! It makes you bigger, look better (most of the time) and for me, after i turned 31, i noticed my sex drive went to shit! When you on the sauce, your lady better be well lubed, cause she never can tell when you may just sneak up behind her!

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Mykayl wrote:
personally, i think roids are for pussies who don’t know how to train properly. they read all the muscle mag and HIT shit, find out it doesn’t work as well as it’s claimed to, and then hook up the juice. i was temped back in high school to do that shit, for the same reason.

those routines only work for guys on the juice anyways, cuz they don’t need to train as hard to get buffed. i knew a guy who did a cycle just to see what it would do, and he did a basic beginners routine: whole body 3 days a week, 1 exercise per bodypart, 3 sets each. he bulked up twice as quick as other guys doing the same. it doesn’t matter how shitty you routine is, it’ll pump you up.

i don’t take roids, and i quit taking aminos a decade ago. i’m not big like i used to be cuz of accidents and illness, but back in the day, i got big quick by throwing all caution to the wind and using a routine my dad learned in the navy. he got pretty big using it; he got 20 inch guns in a year’s time before he quit. i did the same back in '96.

check out my comments in the Zane or Cutler thread in the Physique and Performance Photos section; i outlined the routine there if you want to try it out. i started up again in august, and i’m making a ferocious comeback so far. i invite anyone who reads it to try it for 6 months, then post results. i can’t make any guarantees that it’ll work for others as well as it does for me, but it sure beats having to take roids or swallow protein shakes and aminos all day. there’s no point in spending good money on junk if there’s a better way to do it all-natural.

Remember kids, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.[/quote]

Being an ex-Marine, I HAVE TO THROW OUT THE BULLSHIT FLAG on any navy routine that provides 20 inch guns naturally, and just supposing its true, how does the rest of the body compare? Oh wait, Popeye was Navy, i’ll bet this dude just eats spinach, who needs protein with this fine, totally safe veggie! I was sent to Miramar Air Station (Navy) and have the certificate that proves i Max’d on their Physical fitness test, while in the Corps. I was always a bit shy on maxing out the points on a PFT!

thats fuckin awesome how fast petes progress was. someone should pm that other guy and try toget him back here. wasnt he s’posed to post a pic? what about the one he was talkin about layin down? kudos to yuh pete for put your money where your mouth was and callin him out. that shut him up real quick. and like yall said… talk is cheap. that was definantly proved this thread.

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Why? Simply because I can. Moreso, I do not believe the government, or a man, or anyone has the right to tell me what I may or may not do with my body, my life, my physique and my mind. They are mine, this is what I have chosen to do with them.

Others ruin theirs with alcohol, or junk food, nicotene, drugs, or stupid injuries. I choose to improve it with juice. This is my life. I will never come smack the burrito out of your mouth, don’t mess with my choices. [/quote]

Excellent answer 'DC! As a libertarian, that statement makes juicing sound patriotic.

[quote]Mykayl wrote:
personally, i think roids are for pussies who don’t know how to train properly. they read all the muscle mag and HIT shit, find out it doesn’t work as well as it’s claimed to, and then hook up the juice. i was temped back in high school to do that shit, for the same reason.

those routines only work for guys on the juice anyways, cuz they don’t need to train as hard to get buffed. i knew a guy who did a cycle just to see what it would do, and he did a basic beginners routine: whole body 3 days a week, 1 exercise per bodypart, 3 sets each. he bulked up twice as quick as other guys doing the same. it doesn’t matter how shitty you routine is, it’ll pump you up.

i don’t take roids, and i quit taking aminos a decade ago. i’m not big like i used to be cuz of accidents and illness, but back in the day, i got big quick by throwing all caution to the wind and using a routine my dad learned in the navy. he got pretty big using it; he got 20 inch guns in a year’s time before he quit. i did the same back in '96.

check out my comments in the Zane or Cutler thread in the Physique and Performance Photos section; i outlined the routine there if you want to try it out. i started up again in august, and i’m making a ferocious comeback so far. i invite anyone who reads it to try it for 6 months, then post results. i can’t make any guarantees that it’ll work for others as well as it does for me, but it sure beats having to take roids or swallow protein shakes and aminos all day. there’s no point in spending good money on junk if there’s a better way to do it all-natural.

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You know, when I was younger (so MANY years ago!) and 1st starting out, I had alot of the same philosophy as Mykayl. I was anti-steroid, anti-supplement,…hell, almost “anti-meat”!

I made very good and quick progress, so I think I got this “no roid/supplement” thinking due to reasonably good genetics for this game. I too knew some dudes who trained and took roids, and they didn’t make the same progress as a neophyte like me at the time. I haven’t seen any pics of Mykayl, but if he is one of those who is sort of a “genetic superior” (as far as building muscle goes) I can easily see how this would turn his thinking so.

But alas, if he truly stays in this game for an extended period of time, it is almost inevitable for some trainees to at least dabble with supplementation. Some of those graduate to the juice. Congrats to all who have!! : )

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Why? Simply because I can. Moreso, I do not believe the government, or a man, or anyone has the right to tell me what I may or may not do with my body, my life, my physique and my mind. They are mine, this is what I have chosen to do with them.

Others ruin theirs with alcohol, or junk food, nicotene, drugs, or stupid injuries. I choose to improve it with juice. This is my life. I will never come smack the burrito out of your mouth, don’t mess with my choices. [/quote]

These are my new words to live by in 2007.

I’m having trouble believing that something I wrote had that much reaction. =)

What boggles my mind however, is that while people go all out against or for Brittney Spears hair, or Brad and Angelina, or FantasyFeeder.com, or Chipotle burritos, PETA etc, the majority of those that they hate (juicers) are actually pushing themselves and pursuing something. They are working on something bigger than themselves. And a lot bigger than Brittney’s hair.

[quote]H-Train wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
Why? Simply because I can. Moreso, I do not believe the government, or a man, or anyone has the right to tell me what I may or may not do with my body, my life, my physique and my mind. They are mine, this is what I have chosen to do with them.

Others ruin theirs with alcohol, or junk food, nicotene, drugs, or stupid injuries. I choose to improve it with juice. This is my life. I will never come smack the burrito out of your mouth, don’t mess with my choices.

These are my new words to live by in 2007.
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[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
I’m having trouble believing that something I wrote had that much reaction. =)

What boggles my mind however, is that while people go all out against or for Brittney Spears hair, or Brad and Angelina, or FantasyFeeder.com, or Chipotle burritos, PETA etc, the majority of those that they hate (juicers) are actually pushing themselves and pursuing something. They are working on something bigger than themselves. And a lot bigger than Brittney’s hair.

H-Train wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
Why? Simply because I can. Moreso, I do not believe the government, or a man, or anyone has the right to tell me what I may or may not do with my body, my life, my physique and my mind. They are mine, this is what I have chosen to do with them.

Others ruin theirs with alcohol, or junk food, nicotene, drugs, or stupid injuries. I choose to improve it with juice. This is my life. I will never come smack the burrito out of your mouth, don’t mess with my choices.

These are my new words to live by in 2007.

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You know, I went back home (to California) last month (from China) and I was just amazed at how fat people are… I forget from time to time. Anyhow, my dad had asked me about the hGH over here and how much it costs, etc etc… I told my mom about it and she about blew a gasket. She’s like THAT SHIT IS SICK, THAT IS SICK SHIT… DONT YOU BE SHOOTING UP ANY DAMNED STEROIDS, DO YOU HEAR ME?

I love my mom, bless her heart, but she’s one of those 250lb women with “chronic fatigue” a “bad back” and a laundry list of “health issues” and I just wanna be like MOM, DONT YOU BE EATING ANY BIG MACS, YOU HEAR ME??? I BETTER NOT BE FINDING CANDY BAR WRAPPERS STUFFED IN BETWEEN YOUR CAR SEATS ANYMORE, UNDERSTAND?

I saw a quote a while back that said… how is it in america doctor’s will prescribe meds for women to become men, men to become women, and women to be more fertile, increase the size of their rack, get ass cheek implants, etc…, but when a man wants to become more manly, confident, and supplement with testosterone it is seen as such a dreaded thing…

[quote]H-Train wrote:
Wow, thanks for reheating this post lol.

1.) I was in the Navy for 6 years and I promise you we never learned any kind of bodybuilding or training, all you do is pushups and situps. When I was on the boat I got screamed at for trying to sneak a 4th meal.

2.) look at this guy’s pics lol [/quote]

  1. there was no official weight training program; just a gym on the base where they could train in their free time, using their own methods. they weren’t on a boat, so they could pig down seconds and thirds at meal time.

  2. those are old pics of me in '03, and one from '85, but i guess you didn’t look at the dates. i’ll be posting 6 month before-and-after pics in a few days, along with a blog of before-and-after stats. we’ll see what you have to say then.

on steroids, what do you think are good gains for 6 months? how about a year? how about 2 years? give us some examples. anyone care to provide some stats representative of what an average joe can gain on steroids in those time periods?

how long does it take an average guy starting with 13" arms to get 20" arms on steroids? anyone? i’m not going anywhere; i’m going to continue posting my drug-free and supplement-free results every 6 months, so some of you might as well cite some examples for comparative purposes. it would be a lot better than just sitting around talking shit.