[quote]Hanley wrote:
scubasteve2105 wrote:
Hanley wrote:
For you guys using multiply gear, what sorta carryover’s are you seeing on your squats?? I’ve always been half tempted to get a multi ply suits and briefs and see what I can do!
I get decent carryover, somewhere btwn 100-200 lbs for the squat and bench, gear isn’t crazy tight, and the deadlift I only get btwn 50-100lbs
cookie_sq wrote:I think the monolift and alternative definition of parallel gives you alot of “carryover” too 
Last time I checked it’s not parallel in any fed it’s breaking parallel, top of the knee below the crease of the hip, and if everyone in that fed is in agreement then there you go let it be. No need for anyone to bash on anyone, judges give gifts in any fed, even the USAPL so who cares??? I’ve seen some high squats but you have to have a big set of balls to put a grand on your back and try. I think the big problem in multi-ply feds is people are using gear that’s too restrictive for the weights they’re attempting, either go looser or go heavier…
rant over
Thanks for the reply. I was expecting 200+lb to be the expected carryover out of briefs and a multiply suit. I already get approx 130lb out of my single ply suit and wraps, tho I should be getting more.
What gear are you wearing for the deadlifts? I assume it’s sumo? I definately get no more than 30-40lb out of my suit right now, but that’s probably because I suck in it.
My turn to rant now tho 
There is NO WAY you can say that squats in multiply feds are as deep as those in single ply, so regardless of wheter or not they actually break parallel, the numbers will automatically be higher because the squats aren’t as deep.
But as I said, that is regardless of whether or not they break parallel. Breaking parallel is a moot point since the squat is passed. If I was competing in a multiply fed, I’d be squatting to the depth that got me white lights.
As for “it’s ok cos you need balls to put 1000lb on your back”. Yeah, you need balls, but you shouldn’t get a gift just cos you’ve got it out of the racks and back into it again. That’s one of my pet hates that a lot of multi ply guys use when it comes to getting gifts… “oh yeah well lets see you take that much out of the rack”… It doesn’t matter if he got it out of the rack if he didn’t squat it as per the rules!!
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I pull sumo and I wear a double ply inzer t-rex, no briefs and it’s a little loose in the hips, if it was tight in the hips I’d probably get more out of it, but harder to get to the bar.
And believe me I agree that if it doesn’t break it shouldn’t get white lights in any fed, and I think USAPL and most single ply lifters are great squatters putting up the weights they do going as deep as they do, and walking out. 1000lbs in single ply walked out is nasty no doubt. Just don’t think there’s a need for all the bickering btwn single and multi, i was thinking about doing a USAPL meet just to do one, I respect what they and the IPF do, just like I respect the IPA, SSA, and APF/AAPF. I’m fortunate enough to train with John Bernor who routinely squats over 1000 almost every week, and whether it’s walked out (which he’s done in the past), in briefs, or a canvas, it’s still amazing to see. We had a 181 USAPL guy squatting with us for awhile who used to do high 6’s low 7’s and that was just as sick I too wish that people weren’t given gifts, it’s bad for the sport.
If you have any gear ?'s Hanley feel free to pm me and I’ll get into more detail with you.