[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
I’m just a young kid trying to gain some knowledge [/quote]
I do not feel that your current approach is effective.
What approach would u like me to use
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
What approach would u like me to use[/quote]
I don’t have any preference on how you go about obtaining knowledge, as it has no impact on me. I just don’t feel that your current approach is effectively meeting your stated goals.
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
And plus u asking how many pull ups and push ups to see if I am fat slop who can’t even do 1 push up or pull sorry my friend if u feel threatened by me I’m just a young kid trying to gain some knowledge I am very impatient if u can tell [/quote]
Oh boy. I really don’t think Chris is “threatened.” He’s offering you help.
You might get a pass on this one, since you’re so young you can’t help being an idiot, but don’t expect to get much help here (or anywhere) with that attitude.
Please ask me how push ups and pull ups will affect my total that is for him to see whether I am some fat slop who can’t even do a push up like seriously Quite funny as he is the only one who asked if I can do a push up because he wanted to see that if I’m some 300lb 15 year old who can only deadlift his body weight I’m to the lifting game I might come across as an idiot I am just trying to get some constructive criticism rather than someone asking me if I can do a push up granted that I have been repetitive and rushed through what I’m saying and not thinking things through I gyess I will live and learn
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
Please ask me how push ups and pull ups will affect my total [/quote]
I did 330 chin ups in my last bench press workout. I find that having a strong back really pays off in strongman.
I’m also able to crank out 100 push-ups at any given time. I’ve found that sort’ve work capacity pretty valuable, especially for a sport where pressing for reps occurs, but it also makes it easier to recover between sets in training.
That said, if you’re chasing a total, I believe you’re more concerned with powerlifting than strongman.
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
Please ask me how push ups and pull ups will affect my total that is for him to see whether I am some fat slop who can’t even do a push up like seriously Quite funny as he is the only one who asked if I can do a push up because he wanted to see that if I’m some 300lb 15 year old who can only deadlift his body weight[/quote]
Actually, I asked because in my 14+ years as a trainer and coach (yes, that’s me playing the “I’ve been a trainer since you were in diapers”-card), I’ve been convinced of the connection between bodyweight exercises and joint health/structural development in younger athletes.
My opinion is that it’s simply important for the still-developing body of a teenager to build tendons/ligaments/connective tissue and intermuscular coordination with moderate to higher-rep bodyweight exercise before progressing to heavier weight training.
I am happily surprised by your push-up numbers, but the fact that you’re using your weight as an excuse for your pull-ups (“about 5” is really “less than 5, maybe 5 on a good day”, right?) should be an indicator of what needs work. You’re a decent presser with a weak back. At best, that’s going to slow down your pressing strength. At worst, it’s setting you up for shoulder problems in the probably-near future. That’s true for any experienced lifter and even moreso for younger lifters.
But I have a feeling you’re not really open to advice, let alone hearing that it’s not necessary or helpful for you to have a power belly at 15 years old. What you’re calling your “impatience” I think is really “I haven’t gotten advice I agree with yet.”
I know I have a weak back I am rowing my ass off I can single srm row 140 for 6-8 reps and can barbell row 225 for 5-8 to be honest I think it’s my hamstrings and quads which hold me back
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
I might come across as an idiot[/quote]
Yep.
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
I know I have a weak back I am rowing my ass off I can single srm row 140 for 6-8 reps and can barbell row 225 for 5-8 to be honest I think it’s my hamstrings and quads which hold me back[/quote]
I’m going to bet, given your other numbers, that either you’re lying about your back strength or you have the worst god damn form.
Anyway, I have no particular interest in helping you
Don’t no if this means anything going off topic dimitar satinatov also known as U.S. strongest man can’t deadlift over 820 but because of his monster press he holds up with the big boys he is only 5 9 his back is not as strong as the other world strongest men but because of his press he still made it world strongest Man U say i have a decent press but a very weak back couldn’t this mean I would be like him
I actually find chasing after weight numbers on back movements non-beneficial, as once again, you’re not going to have a rowing or chinning event in a strongman contest (at least, I’ve never seen one). I find it better to train the back like a bodybuilder, and worry more about building up the size with some volume.
I also think it’s interesting that you feel Dimitar is a strong presser with a weak back, rather than believing that he is instead someone who is built for pressing and therefore not pulling. From what I’ve seen, he has short arms for his structure, which would make him a better presser than a puller. I imagine his back is actually quite strong, and that the deadlift simply does not allow him to demonstrate it.
I find it odd that you use your “weak hamstrings” to explain why you can only do 5 pull ups. I find it even odder that you think the fact that some guy can “only” deadlift 820lbs also justifies this.
All this aside, have you looked at the logs of Th3Pwnisher or Alpha yet? Both of these are big, strong guys who have achieved or are in the process of achieving what you say is your goal. This seems like a more useful way to spend your time than questioning experienced couches or asking Jim fucking Wendler if he recommends the Texas Method (seriously?).
does dimitar satinatov answer your questions?
you have gotten some good info in this thread
you might want to look at who some of these people are
you might find oh shit i am f—ing up i should listen
[quote]dagill2 wrote:
asking Jim fucking Wendler if he recommends the Texas Method (seriously?).[/quote]
LOL!!!
[quote]goochadamg wrote:
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
I know I have a weak back I am rowing my ass off I can single srm row 140 for 6-8 reps and can barbell row 225 for 5-8 to be honest I think it’s my hamstrings and quads which hold me back[/quote]
I’m going to bet, given your other numbers, that either you’re lying about your back strength or you have the worst god damn form.
Anyway, I have no particular interest in helping you[/quote]
George leemans Yates rows
[quote]dagill2 wrote:
I find it odd that you use your “weak hamstrings” to explain why you can only do 5 pull ups. I find it even odder that you think the fact that some guy can “only” deadlift 820lbs also justifies this.).[/quote]
Dimitar finished top 10 this year is world strongest man right every other person in the final can deadlift well over 900 in comparison to other top 10 strongmen I am saying is back isn’t as strong might be that his half a foot smaller th n every one else
And I was talking about my deadlifts when I said hamstrings are holding me back
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
[quote]dagill2 wrote:
I find it odd that you use your “weak hamstrings” to explain why you can only do 5 pull ups. I find it even odder that you think the fact that some guy can “only” deadlift 820lbs also justifies this.).[/quote]
Dimitar finished top 10 this year is world strongest man right every other person in the final can deadlift well over 900 in comparison to other top 10 strongmen I am saying is back isn’t as strong might be that his half a foot smaller th n every one else
And I was talking about my deadlifts when I said hamstrings are holding me back [/quote]
Well thanks for the history lesson, I watched WSM as well. I can also do 15 perfect pull-ups, why can’t you?
Just because I cant I have not been training them enough I will buy an assisted band and do 100 pull ups twice a week now happy
[quote]HitEmUp wrote:
Just because I cant I have not been training them enough I will buy an assisted band and do 100 pull ups twice a week now happy [/quote]
I’m not trying to be a douche, I’m trying to help you find the holes in your training.
Have you checked out any of the strongman logs I pointed you to previously? Both of these lifters also run blogs which detail their training and the thoughts behind it, which I think you’d find an invaluable resource. I can’t link to either here, but google Mythical Strength (Th3Pwnisher) or Brian Alsruhe (Alpha, and Marylands Strongest Man 2014/15. Mods don’t generally let anyone link, or refer to, his blog directly)