My original question was after lax season what program could i do to gain as much mass as possible. Right now i hope to continue wsb4sb3 until the season and get up to 160 for my freshmen year. then after the season i was thinking of just trying to gain straight mass for 3 months but as you guys said its all about eating more.
[quote]iVoodoo wrote:
This kid has three months I believe until Lacrosse season, his goal is to get big in time to make a difference on the field, not to be as healthy as possible.
Have you ever played contact sports at at least a varsity High school level?
Have you ever had to bulk up specifically for a contact sport?
This kid doesn’t have time for a “Clean” bulk…
He has three months.
That’s all.
He has a specific goal, and he should be working as hard as he can at attaining it.
He shouldn’t worry about trying to keep every macronutrient in check, he shouldn’t worry about eating clean, he should just fucking eat.
Three months of “dirty” bulking, if you can even call it that, will result in the fastest gains, period.
The kid wants to be an All-State player, that’s not gonna happen at 150lbs, period.
He doesn’t have time for an immaculately clean diet, and to suggest he does is tremendously holding him back from the amount of success he could have in his EXTREMELY limited amount of time.
If OP wants to be a Monster, boys gonna have to eat, a lot.[/quote]
I agree, he has to eat alot. So why exactly is 1000 cal from pizza better than 1000 cal from sweet potatoes, steak and veggies??
Are you talking about putting on as much weight as possible in the limited time (cuz weight, lean or not, does help in a contact sport)? Or are you talking about lean mass?
To me it comes across as ignorant and a bit lazy to claim he doesn’t “have time” to eat “clean.” Last fall I gained 20lbs in 10 weeks sticking to meat, veggies, eggs, olive oil, nuts, potatoes, rice, etc. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think OP would be thrilled with 20lbs/10 weeks.
Look, I really know what point you are trying to get across here, and I think the message is the right one at the right time. OP’s not there yet. He hasn’t even tried eating more yet. Let him eat what he’s eating and alot more of it. When things aren’t progressing as smoothly as he’d like then we’ll throw in some junk for good measure.
thanks guys i am trying to eat clean but still getting my cals in. I have gained about 6 pounds in 6 weeks so i am thrilled about that. Also pretty thrilled about my strength to. I put 115 pounds on my squat, 120 on my deadlift and 45 on my bench.
I understand what you’re saying, but do you really think this kid is going to slug down 15 sweet potatoes after his workout? If he can than more power to him, but I doubt it.
He won’t even down a damn shake.
He also probably doesn’t have sufficient funds to be buying “clean” all the time.
A pizza is a hell of a lot cheaper than steak and sweet potatoes, and once the season rolls around, he’s going to need calorie-dense food just to maintain if he’s practicing hard day in and day out.
Bottom line is this, nobody sees your abs when you’re wearing shoulder pads, they only see you crushing them in to the turf, and an extra 10-15lbs, even if it was fat (which I really doubt it will be…), is only going to help accomplish that.
He’s young, he’s probably got the metabolism of a geeked out hummingbird, and he probably doesn’t have a lot of time to be sitting around preparing meals made of chicken and rice all day, he’ll have plenty of time to lean out later, so why hold him back from his limited opportunity at being a top-tier athlete?
Carbohydrates are an athletes best friend.
Right now im just downing whatever i have in sight. As long as its somewhat healthy. Today for example
Breakfest- 3 eggs, bowl of oatmeal, some veggies.
almonds and tried fruit and snake.
lunch - i chocolate milk, 1 whole milk, 2 burgers just the meat no bread so about 10 oz, scoop of cooked carrots, chicken i back, sunflower seeds and a water.
pre workout- 1 scoop gatorade powder with about 15 oz water.
post workout- 2 scoop MD with water.
dinner- 4 meatballs, 2 pork chops about 5 oz each, half a frozen bag of peas, and a lot of cheeze sprickled on top. 4 pieces of dark chocolate, class of milk
Sigh…
Where’s X when I need him…
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
its not my pic[/quote]
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iv- was that adressed to my diet
[quote]jtownlax wrote:
thanks guys i am trying to eat clean but still getting my cals in. I have gained about 6 pounds in 6 weeks so i am thrilled about that. Also pretty thrilled about my strength to. I put 115 pounds on my squat, 120 on my deadlift and 45 on my bench.[/quote]
good work, keep it up!
[quote]jtownlax wrote:
Right now im just downing whatever i have in sight. As long as its somewhat healthy. Today for example
Breakfest- 3 eggs, bowl of oatmeal, some veggies.
almonds and tried fruit and snake.
lunch - i chocolate milk, 1 whole milk, 2 burgers just the meat no bread so about 10 oz, scoop of cooked carrots, chicken i back, sunflower seeds and a water.
pre workout- 1 scoop gatorade powder with about 15 oz water.
post workout- 2 scoop MD with water.
dinner- 4 meatballs, 2 pork chops about 5 oz each, half a frozen bag of peas, and a lot of cheeze sprickled on top. 4 pieces of dark chocolate, class of milk[/quote]
This
Made me laugh
Ahh good old school days
OP please don’t take that in a offensive way
OP, if your making gains all the power to ya
And keep doing what your doing
If its working for ya
[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
[quote]jtownlax wrote:
thanks guys i am trying to eat clean but still getting my cals in. I have gained about 6 pounds in 6 weeks so i am thrilled about that. Also pretty thrilled about my strength to. I put 115 pounds on my squat, 120 on my deadlift and 45 on my bench.[/quote]
good work, keep it up! [/quote]
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Yes.
Look at your carbohydrate intake man, this is what I’ve been talking about the whole thread, you need carbohydrates to Grow!
The only good source there is your oatmeal, and that was hours before you even trained…
I don’t think you’re getting it.
carbs at lunch from milk and carrots. before workout 100 grams carbs from gatorade powder. ill try my best to get more
young n- what do you see wrong with this diet? anything you think i should add
Carbohydrates are definitely your friend, remember, you’re an athlete, not a bodybuilder cutting fat, and not a caveman trying to survive, you need carbohydrates 
[quote]jtownlax wrote:
young n- what do you see wrong with this diet? anything you think i should add[/quote]
Look if its working for the keep at it
Whatever works ~ To each their own
Just don’t take what I said in a negative way
I have nothing but props for you for starting out at such a young age
Young n- i am not taking anything negatively i am just trying to get as much advice as possible and apply it. With my schedual anything you see i could add in?
I guess the only thing I can say that will be of any use is to eat more
And to just stick to it
You will find out how you body handles certain macros after a while
Also keeping a food log might actually be of benefit for know, actually it is beneficially no matter when
This isn’t something that your only going to do for only 3 months months this will become a lifetime, so a food log for a few weeks out of a year, a decade, a lifetime will be of benefit
Hope that helps
[quote]jtownlax wrote:
Young n- i am not taking anything negatively i am just trying to get as much advice as possible and apply it. With my schedual anything you see i could add in?[/quote]
If I said carb cycling would that throw you off?
If I said low, medium, high carb days would that throw you off?
If I said fasting, pulse fasting, pulse feasting, how about then?
If I said pour oil over anything you eat, How would you feel?
You see what I’m trying to get at here?
[quote]young n wrote:
I guess the only thing I can say that will be of any use is to eat more
And to just stick to it
You will find out how you body handles certain macros after a while
Also keeping a food log might actually be of benefit for know, actually it is beneficially no matter when
This isn’t something that your only going to do for only 3 months months this will become a lifetime, so a food log for a few weeks out of a year, a decade, a lifetime will be of benefit
Hope that helps[/quote]
Hmmm I posted this ^ after the above statement