What Physique Women Like

Just a thought…

I was having a conversation with a very attractive female co-worker today and she mentioned that her boyfriend was getting all “muscley” now that he has been working outside since the weather in PA has warmed up a bit. The dude is skinny so I joked with her “what is he up to now, 155?” With a very concerned and serious look on her face she replied “I think he might be up to 160, and you can see all his muscles and stuff, even on his forearms.”

Now, the obvious place to go here is to explain the idea of low body fat + skinny guy = definition, not mass, but she wouldn’t get the point. To her he was just “muscley.” Which brings me to my point - For us guys into bodybuilding, being obsessed with maximum mass coupled with minimal bodyfat is what we do, and because we put so much thought, effort, and time into achieving that goal, how dare any female tell us that is not what they want?

But to those that do not live the lifestyle, anyone who is not looking to just “tone” is kind of strange. I don’t agree with it, but I see and hear it from too many women not to at least consider it as a valid theory.

Personally, I think that any woman that doesn’t get my interest in working out and bodybuilding is not going to understand A LOT of things about me, so F her and her small minded attitude. There is always more fish in the sea. But being someone who weighs 225 with a little fat to lose, I type this while the 160 lb. “muscley” guy is getting some.

The gods will always have a sense of humor.

[quote]But being someone who weighs 225 with a little fat to lose, I type this while the 160 lb. “muscley” guy is getting some.

The gods will always have a sense of humor. [/quote]

Unless in a side by side comparison, it seems people don’t notice absolute size that much.

It’s about proportion and definition to the general populace.

This thread is really making me happy I have a girl who likes my muscles.

I highly recommend you all find a similar woman, they do indeed exist, however in very small numbers.

I can’t imagine still being single and trying to scour the land, clawing my way through crowds of mindless, flabby females who use terms like “muscly”…

[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
I can’t imagine still being single and trying to scour the land, clawing my way through crowds of mindless, flabby females who use terms like “muscly”…[/quote]

me too…

I look at most other women and then I look at my wife…then I think to myself “holy cow I hit the jackpot!”…

flabby mindless female sums up the typical american woman nicely…

I think a lot of it has to do with how people feel about themselves also. I’ve dated women who had a problem with me training because it made me look better, thus iuncreasing the chances that I would leave them for someone else. That mindset has very little to do with how I looked, but it was an easy way to project their lack of confidence in themselves onto something else.

I agree a lot with what another poster said earlier in this thread - many women are very attracted to confidence, and very few things make me feel more confident then when I am happy with the way I look.

I still find some of these personal accounts hard to believe - 160 and lean too ‘muscley?’ How could she possibly be for real? I STILL think it comes from fear that he’ll realize she doesn’t measure up and go out looking for something better.

Here’s something to keep it in perspective for you. You think it’s challenging to find a woman who likes muscle? Well I’m not going to complain I can’t find men who like muscle, because my gym is filled with them, and my boyfriend’s one of them. But the average guy is another story. They LIKE those flabby, skinny/fat or just plain fat girls who hate muscles.

The other day I was talking to a guy friend, and I was checking out the ‘powerful image,’ who happened to be a lean and beautifully muscled woman - a shot of her posterior chain. I aspire to a body like hers. His exact words: “EW, she’s WAY too big.”

You think women are nuts for thinking guys like uber-thin model types? They’re not. This guy (a smart, attractive guy who will have a good sized wallet not far down the line) goes for 5’10", 125 lbs. soaking wet. And of course gorgeous. And of course, batshit crazy.

Stereotypes can be so pathetic (types the fitness-crazed girl who likes ‘muscley’ guys)…

Oh and by the way - though I was slightly wounded by what felt like an almost personal diss from this guy, I would still NEVER date him. He’s not into working out, he doesn’t appreciate muscle on a woman, and he’s out of shape himself. Can you say turn-off? So why the f*ck should I care if his taste sucks? As long as my bf loves my body, I’m happy.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I’m sooo lucky.

In my experience, the women who are a little thicker, but have more chest and ass are the ones that go for the big boy look, and not the skinny lean fucker look. What I mean to say is that the women from the (youve got curves) thread are more likely to go for the thick guy look.

At my night classes in college, the little scrawny a/b cup girls with no ass go for tall lean guys.
The 150ish pound girls, the ones with nice fat asses and C or D cups like the thick boys a lot better, and I have also discovered that African American ladies like the big boy look even in white guys.
This is just my personal experience, but I ahve been hit on by several of the thicker, but more hormonal women, whereas the skinny skanks don’t seem to be as interested.

Then again, I have been hit on twice by women in there 40’s. I think it’s my seventies mustache.

[quote]K-Narf wrote:
I think in general the older a woman gets the more she appreciates her mans physique.[/quote]

Bingo. The mrs and I discussed this last week. When we first met I was thin and strong, after 11 years of married life/kids/home ownership I went to pot. A couple of years ago I cleaned up my diet, lost 30# and started working out 3 days/week. Some of the gut went and I started to get my 29yo body back (I was doing well until I herniated a disc and was gymless for 3 months). Over the holidays she bought me a pair of 501 jeans, the same ones she complimented me on when we met.

Anyway my taking care of myself shows her that I have some respect for myself and for her. A lot of my motiviation was based on what would happen when I got older since my dad has diabetes due to his weight. I didn’t want to end up the same way. My dedication has kept me diabetes free and I feel good about myself. Since I feel good about myself she feels good being with me.

When I was younger the women I dated didn’t care so much about how I was built as much as what I did for a living. I had a “cool” title once and that seemed to impress some of them. The money didn’t matter, I was working for myself and no one else.

My SIL chased money and found it. My wife was jealous of her when she was dating this guy but after a couple of years of marriage she’s jealous no more. The “fun” SIL thought would come with marriage isn’t there. They sleep in different rooms, she’s not gotten any (from him anyway) in over a year (and SIL is really pretty) and don’t do much.

[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
In my experience, the women who are a little thicker, but have more chest and ass are the ones that go for the big boy look, and not the skinny lean fucker look. What I mean to say is that the women from the (youve got curves) thread are more likely to go for the thick guy look.

At my night classes in college, the little scrawny a/b cup girls with no ass go for tall lean guys.
The 150ish pound girls, the ones with nice fat asses and C or D cups like the thick boys a lot better, and I have also discovered that African American ladies like the big boy look even in white guys.
This is just my personal experience, but I ahve been hit on by several of the thicker, but more hormonal women, whereas the skinny skanks don’t seem to be as interested.

Then again, I have been hit on twice by women in there 40’s. I think it’s my seventies mustache.[/quote]

Watch it buddy - no dissing the a/b cup girls!!!

But it does seem that curvier girls feel more ‘feminine’ with a big boy.

Women are attracted to men that make them feel feminine and hot.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dinan wrote:
It’s the wallet, the face, the package and the body, in that order. If you have only the first, the women will surely follow. If you lack the second, your shit out of luck (if you don’t have the money). You won’t have as much fun in life without the final two (even with the first two).

I am learning that wallet trumps all…or at least the anticipation of a large wallet in the near future. You can do whatever the hell you want to do with your body if you have the finances.

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Famous beats wallet (or lack thereof.)

One of the things I learned when I lived in LA (besides “Don’t live in LA,”) was famous beats poor, fat, ugly, stupid, mean, drunk, or smelly.

Anyone remember that movie “Varsity Blues”? The fat guy who had the pig as a pet? I used to see him all the time and he would always have a different girl on his arm. Hot ones.

Famous beats all.

[quote]Jinx Me wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
In my experience, the women who are a little thicker, but have more chest and ass are the ones that go for the big boy look, and not the skinny lean fucker look. What I mean to say is that the women from the (youve got curves) thread are more likely to go for the thick guy look.

At my night classes in college, the little scrawny a/b cup girls with no ass go for tall lean guys.
The 150ish pound girls, the ones with nice fat asses and C or D cups like the thick boys a lot better, and I have also discovered that African American ladies like the big boy look even in white guys.
This is just my personal experience, but I ahve been hit on by several of the thicker, but more hormonal women, whereas the skinny skanks don’t seem to be as interested.

Then again, I have been hit on twice by women in there 40’s. I think it’s my seventies mustache.

Watch it buddy - no dissing the a/b cup girls!!!

But it does seem that curvier girls feel more ‘feminine’ with a big boy.

Women are attracted to men that make them feel feminine and hot.

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No diss at all to a and b cup girls. Skinny women are beautiful, curvy women are beautiful. Sometimes “big boys” need big pillows to sleep on though.

Hi Guys…I’m gonna throw a new perspective on here…what I’ve found to be true in my experience. Im 54 and have been in shape, out of shape, rich, and poor. I’ve had very young girls and women more my age. What attracts a woman is not something they decide, its a visceral emotion. Not wallet, not face, not body. It’s attitude guys. If you’re a cocksure confident guy with a sense of humor you’ll have more women that you can handle. And when you find one you like, DON’T turn into wuss boy, in other words, falling all over yourself trying to kiss their ass.

It can be frustrating though to be bigger than skinny but not large.

The girls here tend to go for “toothpicks” who have a low BF but no muscle mass. Think about 130 lbs. I"m NOT kidding.

I’m not defined at this time, but I don’t think I’m fat, but I get “you are fat” all the time…

Tends to make me mad, but then I remember that these girls are simply not meant for me and that makes it easier.

In my experience, no women like skinny. I’ve never met a woman in real life who would find some of the more anorexic, prepubescent male models attractive. But many great-loooking, amazing women do like lean and defined with moderate to minimal muscle. What many people on this site would still consider skinny. I don’t think it’s because they’re scared of measuring up either. You only need to look at them and talk to them to realize they clearly DO measure up.

But then there are also terrific women who do like more muscular physiques, so it really shouldn’t be an issue. Getting really muscular is something you do for YOU, and you may be limiting your options a little bit by it. But not a problem since for many women out there, it’s not a problem. And it might even be a tradeoff since many women REALLY like muscular bodies.

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
It can be frustrating though to be bigger than skinny but not large.

The girls here tend to go for “toothpicks” who have a low BF but no muscle mass. Think about 130 lbs. I"m NOT kidding.

I’m not defined at this time, but I don’t think I’m fat, but I get “you are fat” all the time…

Tends to make me mad, but then I remember that these girls are simply not meant for me and that makes it easier.

[/quote]

5’7 158 is too big? Not where I live, even with the girls that prefer smaller. But 21% bodfat is actually fat in any world, if that’s what you really are, in my opinion. Unless you really have appreciable muscle mass.

[quote]harris447 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dinan wrote:
It’s the wallet, the face, the package and the body, in that order. If you have only the first, the women will surely follow. If you lack the second, your shit out of luck (if you don’t have the money). You won’t have as much fun in life without the final two (even with the first two).

I am learning that wallet trumps all…or at least the anticipation of a large wallet in the near future. You can do whatever the hell you want to do with your body if you have the finances.

Famous beats wallet (or lack thereof.)

One of the things I learned when I lived in LA (besides “Don’t live in LA,”) was famous beats poor, fat, ugly, stupid, mean, drunk, or smelly.

Anyone remember that movie “Varsity Blues”? The fat guy who had the pig as a pet? I used to see him all the time and he would always have a different girl on his arm. Hot ones.

Famous beats all.
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I think I’m going to curl up in the fetal position and openly weep now.

Im a canadian whose been living in s korea off and on for about 3 1/2 years. From what I ve seen in s korea ; asia as well , oriental women are into the skinny guys.

[quote]Jinx Me wrote:
I still find some of these personal accounts hard to believe - 160 and lean too ‘muscley?’ How could she possibly be for real? I STILL think it comes from fear that he’ll realize she doesn’t measure up and go out looking for something better.

Here’s something to keep it in perspective for you. You think it’s challenging to find a woman who likes muscle? Well I’m not going to complain I can’t find men who like muscle, because my gym is filled with them, and my boyfriend’s one of them. But the average guy is another story. They LIKE those flabby, skinny/fat or just plain fat girls who hate muscles.

The other day I was talking to a guy friend, and I was checking out the ‘powerful image,’ who happened to be a lean and beautifully muscled woman - a shot of her posterior chain. I aspire to a body like hers. His exact words: “EW, she’s WAY too big.”

You think women are nuts for thinking guys like uber-thin model types? They’re not. This guy (a smart, attractive guy who will have a good sized wallet not far down the line) goes for 5’10", 125 lbs. soaking wet. And of course gorgeous. And of course, batshit crazy.

Stereotypes can be so pathetic (types the fitness-crazed girl who likes ‘muscley’ guys)…

Oh and by the way - though I was slightly wounded by what felt like an almost personal diss from this guy, I would still NEVER date him. He’s not into working out, he doesn’t appreciate muscle on a woman, and he’s out of shape himself. Can you say turn-off? So why the f*ck should I care if his taste sucks? As long as my bf loves my body, I’m happy.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I’m sooo lucky. [/quote]

You hit it on the head. Why seek someone who doesn’t have the same values, it’s self-selecting criteria, you’ll find someone who values who you are. People have their own views on attraction, be who you are and you’ll end up with someone who appreciates you. Seeking the approval of others just makes sure you’ll never find someone who appreciates what you have to offer.

Billy Bob was the man.

“Will you go prom wit me?”

[quote]Kuz wrote:
harris447 wrote:

Anyone remember that movie “Varsity Blues”? The fat guy who had the pig as a pet? I used to see him all the time and he would always have a different girl on his arm. Hot ones.

Famous beats all.

I think I’m going to curl up in the fetal position and openly weep now.[/quote]

Skinny-fat on a guy and skinny-fat on a girl are two very different things. On a guy it looks terrible but on a girl it looks damn good as long as everything’s in the right place.

[quote]Jinx Me wrote:

Here’s something to keep it in perspective for you. You think it’s challenging to find a woman who likes muscle? Well I’m not going to complain I can’t find men who like muscle, because my gym is filled with them, and my boyfriend’s one of them. But the average guy is another story. They LIKE those flabby, skinny/fat or just plain fat girls who hate muscles.

The other day I was talking to a guy friend, and I was checking out the ‘powerful image,’ who happened to be a lean and beautifully muscled woman - a shot of her posterior chain. I aspire to a body like hers. His exact words: “EW, she’s WAY too big.”

You think women are nuts for thinking guys like uber-thin model types? They’re not. This guy (a smart, attractive guy who will have a good sized wallet not far down the line) goes for 5’10", 125 lbs. soaking wet. And of course gorgeous. And of course, batshit crazy.

Stereotypes can be so pathetic (types the fitness-crazed girl who likes ‘muscley’ guys)…

Oh and by the way - though I was slightly wounded by what felt like an almost personal diss from this guy, I would still NEVER date him. He’s not into working out, he doesn’t appreciate muscle on a woman, and he’s out of shape himself. Can you say turn-off? So why the f*ck should I care if his taste sucks? As long as my bf loves my body, I’m happy.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I’m sooo lucky. [/quote]