What Physique Women Like

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[quote]irondog wrote:
Hi Guys…I’m gonna throw a new perspective on here…what I’ve found to be true in my experience. Im 54 and have been in shape, out of shape, rich, and poor. I’ve had very young girls and women more my age. What attracts a woman is not something they decide, its a visceral emotion. Not wallet, not face, not body. It’s attitude guys. If you’re a cocksure confident guy with a sense of humor you’ll have more women that you can handle. And when you find one you like, DON’T turn into wuss boy, in other words, falling all over yourself trying to kiss their ass.[/quote]

Amen brother. Preach on…

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I really don’t think physique factors that much into adult attraction. Assuming you have decent proportions overall, body fat would probably be the most important simply because it makes your face look better.

Seriously, if you think about it, most guys meet women through work or friends. In a normal social situation, it is not all that noticeable how much time you devote to your body unless you are a complete mass monster.

The only way it would be a major factor is if you wear your physique “on your sleeve,” so to speak, for the world to see. If you’re walking around in muscle T’s, wifebeaters, small/medium shirts when you should be wearing XL, then of course women are going to think you’re in love with your own body and superficial - because you probably are.

If a woman has gotten to know and like you with your shirt on, and then you surprise them with a fantastic body underneath, it’s only going to make them like you that much more.

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[quote]milktruck wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dinan wrote:
It’s the wallet, the face, the package and the body, in that order. If you have only the first, the women will surely follow. If you lack the second, your shit out of luck (if you don’t have the money). You won’t have as much fun in life without the final two (even with the first two).

I am learning that wallet trumps all…or at least the anticipation of a large wallet in the near future. You can do whatever the hell you want to do with your body if you have the finances.

i went to large public and small private high schools and colleges(im a transfer junkie or something). At the small, overpriveledged college i just graduated from, you would be astounded what pudgy, conneticuit wasps get absolutely stunning girls. i have to interject that I, being poor but having everything else going for me, have snagged quite a few myself. I could eat these guys and their collection of pink polos in one sitting and Im not a big tough guy where I come from, but they get mad respect. It seems absurd. Their parents made alot of money and now they are cocky cowards who threaten a lawsuit over a bar fight, so everyone backs down.

I mean, theyre not all like this, but even rich girls go gaga over a 8 to 10 figure inheritance.[/quote]
Women go gaga over an 8 to ten figure inheritance? sweet.
I bet I get at least $1258.50 that is eight figures, assuming the the $ and the . count, and my mom doesn’t spend the 50 cents on a candy bar between now and then.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
It can be frustrating though to be bigger than skinny but not large.

The girls here tend to go for “toothpicks” who have a low BF but no muscle mass. Think about 130 lbs. I"m NOT kidding.

I’m not defined at this time, but I don’t think I’m fat, but I get “you are fat” all the time…

Tends to make me mad, but then I remember that these girls are simply not meant for me and that makes it easier.

5’7 158 is too big? Not where I live, even with the girls that prefer smaller. But 21% bodfat is actually fat in any world, if that’s what you really are, in my opinion. Unless you really have appreciable muscle mass.
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OOppss…haven’t updated my profile in like over 9 months or so…lol

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
milktruck wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dinan wrote:
It’s the wallet, the face, the package and the body, in that order. If you have only the first, the women will surely follow. If you lack the second, your shit out of luck (if you don’t have the money). You won’t have as much fun in life without the final two (even with the first two).

I am learning that wallet trumps all…or at least the anticipation of a large wallet in the near future. You can do whatever the hell you want to do with your body if you have the finances.

i went to large public and small private high schools and colleges(im a transfer junkie or something). At the small, overpriveledged college i just graduated from, you would be astounded what pudgy, conneticuit wasps get absolutely stunning girls. i have to interject that I, being poor but having everything else going for me, have snagged quite a few myself. I could eat these guys and their collection of pink polos in one sitting and Im not a big tough guy where I come from, but they get mad respect. It seems absurd. Their parents made alot of money and now they are cocky cowards who threaten a lawsuit over a bar fight, so everyone backs down.

I mean, theyre not all like this, but even rich girls go gaga over a 8 to 10 figure inheritance.
Women go gaga over an 8 to ten figure inheritance? sweet.
I bet I get at least $1258.50 that is eight figures, assuming the the $ and the . count, and my mom doesn’t spend the 50 cents on a candy bar between now and then.

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Haha. Yes, its all in the wording.

Eight firgures? All depends on that decimal, but there are still eight numbers there…

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I think part of the problem with this thread is that there is what DO women like, and what SHOULD women like.

Really it would be healthier for all if what people were attracted to was healthy behaviour.

Unfortunately a lot of the population instead practise easy, lazy behaviour. And get out of shape. And then, maybe they are only comfortable being with someone else who isn’t out of shape, they feel more secure.

Also, when young, there is a good chnace that a person who has unhealthy habits is still pretty OK looking at far as physique goes. This might not be the case so much these days (especially with all the fat kids around) but it used to be. So rather than being attracted to good healthy habits / lifestyle they go for the look, which may be lean and even a bit “muscly”, even if the lifestyle is a disaster that is taking that person on a one way trip to fatville.

I think many people who read T-Nation are at least subconsciously aware that what the public SHOULD be attracted to is healthy habits, ambition and the desire to improve, taking care of your physical self. And I think most readers get frustrated to hear that the general public do not think that way, because it belittles their efforts, AND because it is just plain stupid to neglect your health.

Also, lots of people are insecure about themselves and seek out partners who will make them look good … someone who is rich, stunning, young, famous etc… both men and women are guilty of this. And again, I consider this unhealthy behaviour and not what the public should aspire to.

If you think of your son or your daughter and ask yourself "what sort of person do I want them to be attracted to " well I always think someone who is healthy, active not lazy, dedicated to training but not obsessed (unless it is their profession), hardworking, lighthearted, devoted, well built and not fat but not cut to shreds (unless it is their profession), eats well, cooks well (guy or girl), is independant and ambitious but has a good idea of the big picture too. And above all a good sense of humour.

I think most people would think something along those lines if thinking about their children, and yet when thinking about themselves they start going crazy. Fat, OK. Not too muscly. I like really skinny guys. I don’t care what he is like as long as he is rich, or famous.

Another thing is some women tend to look at an ugly guy with a gorgeous girl and think “gee, what has he got that makes him so special?” I also think they do the reverse - they see a guy who is known to be famous, rich etc… and look at the girl, and think “gee she must be something special”.

What is my point? I don’t know I’m lost myself. Thank God I’m not single and trying to second guess crazy wimmin and found someone with a good head on her shoulders, who hits me with a big stick if I gets even a little bit fat.

Good luck you single guys

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
I think part of the problem with this thread is that there is what DO women like, and what SHOULD women like.

Really it would be healthier for all if what people were attracted to was healthy behaviour.
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well, women SHOULD be attracted to whatever will lead to them having a better life, and in today’s society that will probably be money rather than health

maybe if this was the stone age, where a better life = survival = health, women would have to be attracted to a healthy man

in today’s world, health isn’t really as big a factor as it used to be, compared to the stone age and the environment our bodies have evolved to live in

and this also further emphasizes the point that you lift weights and maintain a healthy lifestyle for YOURSELF, not for attracting women, because it really isn’t that big of a factor anyways

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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
It can be frustrating though to be bigger than skinny but not large.

The girls here tend to go for “toothpicks” who have a low BF but no muscle mass. Think about 130 lbs. I"m NOT kidding.

I’m not defined at this time, but I don’t think I’m fat, but I get “you are fat” all the time…

Tends to make me mad, but then I remember that these girls are simply not meant for me and that makes it easier.

5’7 158 is too big? Not where I live, even with the girls that prefer smaller. But 21% bodfat is actually fat in any world, if that’s what you really are, in my opinion. Unless you really have appreciable muscle mass.

OOppss…haven’t updated my profile in like over 9 months or so…lol[/quote]

Checked it again. 175 at 17% = much better.

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Good post, Marghre.

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I have only been out of school 2 months and Im alredy a millionaire in Colombia.

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I have a friend who was absolutely huge when we were younger(IFBB pro) and the girls would always say at the bar or partys that his body was gross and his legs are too big etc…
But all the time, and I mean all the time the same girls would end up going home with him!!
FF

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[quote]FireFighter1046 wrote:
I have a friend who was absolutely huge when we were younger(IFBB pro) and the girls would always say at the bar or partys that his body was gross and his legs are too big etc…
But all the time, and I mean all the time the same girls would end up going home with him!!
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I saw the same thing when I was working the bars. There were a couple guys I worked with who pretty much looked like gorillas – and I’m not just talking build. They could still be guaranteed to have a good-looking woman hit on them about once a month. One of the less gorilla-esque, but still very bulky guys used to bring home a new girl every other week (thus how he earned the nickname “Whorehouse” – in reference to him, not the girls).

Lots of girls say they don’t like too many muscles. Some of them really don’t. Many of them, however, love the -feel- of muscle… and from that, learn to cope with the appearance. Poor dears. :wink:

The comment I’ve often gotten, especially from taller or sturdier girls, is that they like to feel feminine. They like to feel small. They like having a man who can pick them up and carry them around effortlessly. It makes them feel safe and – in a society where beauty is often associated with a lack of size – it makes them feel prettier than they normally do.

All that said: body’s just icing on the cake. You may draw some women with it, but for the most part it can work against you. Who cares? I lift to be strong. I have no interest in a woman that needs to have a weak man to feel better about herself.

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First off, do what YOU want and the rest will fall into place.

That being said, after working in the bar scene for over a year, I can tell that I’ve never once seen a really jacked guy pick up a girl at the bar. As a matter of fact, the only girls that would cling to them would be the heavy set girls. In fact, these guys hardly every talked to girls at all, they just sort of stared at the crowd; probably waiting for chicks to come up to them but they never would. I know this because as a bouncer, it was these guys who I’d keep my eye on and, to their, credit not one of them ever started trouble.

The regulars who had the best game usually left with different women almost every weekend and they almost always fit the “light bulb” description.

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a lot of guys who lift obsessively have a screw loose and cant cut it socially. i know my reasons for lifting are 50% health 50% im crazy. crazy goes over well with women if you do it right, but man can you do it wrong.

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EXACTLY!
ANY guy who lifts weights/builds muscle to get pussy doesn’t usually have enough confidence in themselves thus making them a complete pussy.
Women see that.
Women don’t like that.
Thats why I workout for ME.Not some stupid slut.
Some girls make fun of the bodybuilder guys who don’t drink much,if any,beer.

I could care less if some stupid bar slut who wants to get banged doesn’t like me because I don’t drink.
I’m not the one who will end up with cracked skin and a dead liver at the age of 35,…along with a big beer belly.
Like you said:
"There is enough fish in the sea."So find someone SMART who understands your goals and isn’t shallow.
I’ve always had more girls comment me on the size of my shoulders and back then my abs.
Guys aren’t meant to look like little sissy girls.
They’re supposed to be strong.
When MEN start to understand that maybe they’ll put away their moms make up and grow some balls.
Most “GIRLS” lack imagination anyway,so they wouldn’t understand you or your goals.
Thats why you start hanging out with WOMEN and not girls.

[quote]Jake_G wrote:
Just a thought…

I was having a conversation with a very attractive female co-worker today and she mentioned that her boyfriend was getting all “muscley” now that he has been working outside since the weather in PA has warmed up a bit. The dude is skinny so I joked with her “what is he up to now, 155?” With a very concerned and serious look on her face she replied “I think he might be up to 160, and you can see all his muscles and stuff, even on his forearms.”

Now, the obvious place to go here is to explain the idea of low body fat + skinny guy = definition, not mass, but she wouldn’t get the point. To her he was just “muscley.” Which brings me to my point - For us guys into bodybuilding, being obsessed with maximum mass coupled with minimal bodyfat is what we do, and because we put so much thought, effort, and time into achieving that goal, how dare any female tell us that is not what they want?

But to those that do not live the lifestyle, anyone who is not looking to just “tone” is kind of strange. I don’t agree with it, but I see and hear it from too many women not to at least consider it as a valid theory.

Personally, I think that any woman that doesn’t get my interest in working out and bodybuilding is not going to understand A LOT of things about me, so F her and her small minded attitude. There is always more fish in the sea. But being someone who weighs 225 with a little fat to lose, I type this while the 160 lb. “muscley” guy is getting some.

The gods will always have a sense of humor.

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