[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
DPH wrote:
suprarob wrote:
Almost all women I interview say they like the lightbulb shape instead of the full body thick look.
RJ
almost all women are fat tubs of shit…who cares what they think…
hahahahhahahha.
It seems like we all forget this.
Most women that I see over 25 are pretty bad. Over 35, forget it. One in ten thousand takes care of themselves.
So really, as I get older, I should care less. Because they certainly do.
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Ain’t this the truth. Anyone thinking all women over 25 are walking around looking like covermodels is living in a fantasy world. When you see them, however, it is a glorious sight to behold.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ain’t this the truth. Anyone thinking all women over 25 are walking around looking like covermodels is living in a fantasy world. When you see them, however, it is a glorious sight to behold.[/quote]
35 2 days ago and still as hot as when we met at 20!
I’d say only about 75% of women over 35 are overweight.
Ain’t this the truth. Anyone thinking all women over 25 are walking around looking like covermodels is living in a fantasy world. When you see them, however, it is a glorious sight to behold.[/quote]
ahh yes Prof! i shall think about that for a few minutes before returning to the forum. ahhhhhhhh . . . . . . .
First of all - lightbulb shaped? I’ve heard of V-taper - and yeah, that’s hot, but it by no means implies chicken legs!
Also, women do go for confidence… whether it’s from money or from somewhere else. Sure, some women just go for money. But others go for guys who are just arrogant a$$holes, which is a side effect of being rich, but can also be a side effect of other things.
Unfortunately, a lot of women have been brainwashed into thinking poorly of themselves, and sabotaging themselves by wanting what they think they can’t have. They like cocky pricks who act as though they’re God’s gift to women. They follow dickheads around like puppies; if the guy is subtly condescending and acts as though he can have any woman, he probably can - as long as she has LOW self-esteem.
And like other posters have said - is that the kind of woman you want?
Just be a good guy, have respect for yourself and others, and do your thing. Then you’ll attract a woman you respect, and whose interests mesh with yours. Why bother trying to attract girls who are a waste of time? Just rent some porn or hire a hooker or something - as yet another poster pointed out in yet another thread, “you’re paying for it either way”
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ain’t this the truth. Anyone thinking all women over 25 are walking around looking like covermodels is living in a fantasy world. When you see them, however, it is a glorious sight to behold.
35 2 days ago and still as hot as when we met at 20!
I’d say only about 75% of women over 35 are overweight.
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Little girls go for little boys. What I mean is the trendy, narrow shouldered, uber lean, flat muscled model look is mostly attractive to girls under 25. Older ladies like myself tend to appreciate a man’s body.
My ex, and good friend, is a nice looking guy, broad shouldered, thick all over, and not in shape. Very confident. He pulls in all kinds of hot girls. He does not make a lot of money.
Also, some women say they like ‘chubby’ guys because they aren’t themselves in great shape, and they feel intimidated by men who are.
I doubt any normal woman would look at a guy who’s in better than average shape, and say she prefers the body of a guy who’s out of shape. But how much it matters depends on the lady.
I think it also depends on location - beach bodies are probably a higher priority to folks who live in places with year round warm weather etc.
In “business” oriented cities, with shorter summers and less outdoor activity like Toronto (my home town), people don’t all place the same emphasis on fitness. The ‘hot’ women just dress nice, spend lots on their hair and don’t eat much.
As an addendum to this, I’m going to add something that I’ve learned as a trainer, working with dozens of people a week:
Men are more concerned with their body’s appearance than women are. In fact, in some situations, men with excellent physiques turn them off.
Why? Because a man who looks the way some of us do leaves them with NO margin for error. They are supposed to be the good-looking ones, not us. My experience is that a woman, more often than not, wants a man to be good TO them, not necessarily good FOR them
As for me. I know i’m a sexy bastard, because I am. I’m what girls call “built”. And they ALWAYS say that. But this was like last year in my last year of high school, and I was 5’11" 190-195, with 15%bf. Furthermore i’m one of those dudes built thick. But girls would always say i’m built. Plus I have a nice face prolly like an 8 or 9/10, I put my shit on hotornot and it was 8.8…but I digress.
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HAhahahhaha, yes let HotOrNot be the judge of all things sexy. Good points, but too much confidence can be seen through, its very transparent. I think the quiet confidence works on women with a few more brain cells, at the end of the day we are all dying carbon life-forms, one may be taller, faster, cooler than another, but in the realm of things everyone is shit. LOL.
Weighing 190 pounds with 15% body fat is built? Sounds to me like someone who has 14" arms with a nice layer of fat over them, but then again it’s high school girls who are judging such.
Men have much lower standards than women when it comes down to pure physical attractiveness. A typical male walks down the street every day and sees a dozen girls he’d love to bang. That happens to a typical female maybe once a month. Witness the behavior of male posters in the picture forum on this site. Extremely stringent standards of physical fitness are applied to any new male initiates by the male-dominated group, in stark contrast to their female counterparts. Any plain-looking Jane can throw her pic up in the picture forum and be assured of at least one internet jock panting over her virtually and professing his love.
That’s the real secret to this debate. It’s the immense disparity between the standards of physical attractiveness held by each gender.[/quote]
Fantastic points, but I don’t think it’s necessarily that men have lower standards of physical beauty. I believe it’s that men are just very, very, visually. If women were the same there would be a lot of monkey business going around on this earth. Men are very visual. When a man sees a great looking girl he doesn’t wonder what job she has, who she knows, how confident she is, how much money does she have, how can she make him feel good about himself, is she too good looking to match with me, what will other think of and be jealous of if I am with her.
None of that. Physical beauty by both men and women is given more attention to with regards to women. A beautiful actress is heralded as something so amazing, because men enjoy looking and women respect and know the power a great looking girl can capture. Find a woman with a man’s mentality, that out to be fun, at least for the first 5 minutes.
Even the women on here who chip in with the comments on “what they find attractive” seem to not be 100% speaking visually. It’s usually purposely said to go against our notions, or its about what they liked in an ex, and so on.
[quote]suprarob wrote:
My experience is that a woman, more often than not, wants a man to be good TO them, not necessarily good FOR them[/quote]
Another great point!
Yes, looks take a back seat, so even questioning or worrying about this is so absurd. How many times will this be brought up to receive the same answer.
I agree that women value looks less than men, for the most part.
I don’t agree that women go for guys who are good to them. Some women, smart women, do. Then all you guys wonder why they’re with the not-uber-hot dude who treats them like gold and makes them feel like beautiful princesses.
Because that’s what women want, to feel like the most beautiful thing on earth. They either find a man who makes them feel that way, or find a man who doesn’t, and then they work for his approval and constantly try to make him change.
[quote]LoneLobo wrote:
milktruck wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dinan wrote:
It’s the wallet, the face, the package and the body, in that order. If you have only the first, the women will surely follow. If you lack the second, your shit out of luck (if you don’t have the money). You won’t have as much fun in life without the final two (even with the first two).
I am learning that wallet trumps all…or at least the anticipation of a large wallet in the near future. You can do whatever the hell you want to do with your body if you have the finances.
i went to large public and small private high schools and colleges(im a transfer junkie or something). At the small, overpriveledged college i just graduated from, you would be astounded what pudgy, conneticuit wasps get absolutely stunning girls. i have to interject that I, being poor but having everything else going for me, have snagged quite a few myself. I could eat these guys and their collection of pink polos in one sitting and Im not a big tough guy where I come from, but they get mad respect. It seems absurd. Their parents made alot of money and now they are cocky cowards who threaten a lawsuit over a bar fight, so everyone backs down.
I mean, theyre not all like this, but even rich girls go gaga over a 8 to 10 figure inheritance.
Perhaps they were interested in a man who could spell Connecticut?[/quote]
Dude are you an english teacher or something? Why do you feel the need to correct everyones grammar. Look at this guy’s last couple posts.
-halflife
[quote]btm62 wrote:
E-man wrote:
Who gives a rats ass what they want. If you’re too big and would actually consider losing muscle for ass then why lift at all?
“I fight for me. For me” -Ivan Drago
Excellent qoute![/quote]
That’s what I’m talking about!I train for me!Badda Bing Badda Boom.TRAIN HARD!Jimmy T
guys FFS go buy “the game” book by neil straus…before i explode. it’s not the bible but it does explain how some women think and the mistakes a lot of guys make.
Why should you guys be concerned with what the “average” woman wants? This is T-Nation for crissakes!!! You are above and beyond the “average” man, and as such, you are appealing to an exclusive set of like-minded women. Take pride in this fact and to hell with the concerns of the mass populus.
You guys are thinking too logically about attraction. Women’s concept of attraction is anything BUT logical. Yeah, we all have physical traits that we find desireable in the opposite sex…same sex for some people (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But the intangibles like confidence and personality go a long way with women. So as long as you’re not freakishly ugly, you can attract nice looking, good women without the Adonis physique.
[quote]Panther1015 wrote:
You guys are thinking too logically about attraction. Women’s concept of attraction is anything BUT logical. Yeah, we all have physical traits that we find desireable in the opposite sex…same sex for some people (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But the intangibles like confidence and personality go a long way with women. So as long as you’re not freakishly ugly, you can attract nice looking, good women without the Adonis physique.[/quote]
the funny thing is, i need to be in good shape to be totally confident. im certain i am projecting my visual fixations on what i believe women are thinking. and when i hit a dry spell, the first thing i do is hit the weights. setting new PRs gives you something to do, boosts confidence with acheivement, improves your physique, and get the ball rolling again. either that or i start a band. it works in a round about way, i admit, but thats how it works for me.
