Westside for Skinny Bastards Help

I have read through the whole article and made my routine

It looks something like this

Monday 1X5 Bench Press
3X10 Inclined Dumbell Press
4X12 Dumbell Row
3X12 Delt Raises Bent Over
3X15 Russian Twists

Wednesday
1X5 Deadlifts
3X15 Speed Skater Lunge
3X10 Leg Curl
3XMAX Grip Strength

Friday
Rest 1 Min
3XMAX Bench Press
3X10 Tricep Dips
4X10 Lat Pulldowns
3X15 Barbell Shrugs
3X10 Alternate Curls
Circuit Abs

This seems really too basic to actually work… but i dont know much so i was just wondering if anyone can help me out by telling me if this is good.

Thanks in advance

thats alot of volume

personaly when I use that much the sets are half assed but thats just me

its not to horrid and almost fits the program but not quite Id read it again and you dont have an RE day and ME day.
you go heavy then go 1x5

Phill

Your routine is just fine. 1x5 is ramping up to your 5 RM, right? If that’s the case, you’re good to go.

yea 1X5 is ramping to my 5 rep max

newb question… How do i do that

[quote]bearsfan44 wrote:
I have read through the whole article and made my routine

It looks something like this

Monday 1X5 Bench Press
3X10 Inclined Dumbell Press
4X12 Dumbell Row
3X12 Delt Raises Bent Over
3X15 Russian Twists

Wednesday
1X5 Deadlifts
3X15 Speed Skater Lunge
3X10 Leg Curl
3XMAX Grip Strength

Friday
Rest 1 Min
3XMAX Bench Press
3X10 Tricep Dips
4X10 Lat Pulldowns
3X15 Barbell Shrugs
3X10 Alternate Curls
Circuit Abs

This seems really too basic to actually work… but i dont know much so i was just wondering if anyone can help me out by telling me if this is good.

Thanks in advance[/quote]

If you can do pull-ups instead of lat pull downs that would be a better exercise imo. Then 3 sets of pullups and until you can do a straight set of 10 reps for 3 sets, then start adding weight.

[quote]bearsfan44 wrote:
yea 1X5 is ramping to my 5 rep max

newb question… How do i do that
[/quote]

Bro you simply slowly work up top it. Its hard to tell you an exact approach without knowing what your moving but lets day your doing 225 then smething like this if your going for a 5RM

bar x a lot
95 x 8
135 x 5
155 x 3
185 x 1
225 x 5

this set up gets yo warm and saves the energy for the real set not much wasted on the junk set.

Now if your wanting to go more 5x5 type goning for volume more not really a true 5 RM
bar x a lot
95 x 5
135 x 5
155 x 5
185 x 5
225 x 5

I still think its not a good idea going for a 3RM on one upper day and 5 RM on the other your better served following the program and doing the RE work on the RE day instead of essentially to ME days.

Phill

thanks for the help guys

i dont know if i could do a pull up though haha like im 210 and 5"11

and sorry to be a pain guys but one more question…

when in the article it says to rotate the max effort 1X5 lift or something like that

what does it mean by rotate

[quote]Phill wrote:

I still think its not a good idea going for a 3RM on one upper day and 5 RM on the other your better served following the program and doing the RE work on the RE day instead of essentially to ME days.

Phill[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that where he wrote 3xMax for bench he meant benching at a given weight for the maximum amount of reps possible.

This is a technique often employed on de-load weeks by more experienced lifters but suits a newbie lifter very well for regular work.

To the OP: where it says to rotate the MAX exercise, this means that you change it to something else every few weeks:

Close grip bench - Wide Bench - Incline Bench etc.

Back Squat - Front Squat - High Box Squat - Low Box Squat etc.

You should really head over to Elitefts and read these articles before doing WS4SB:

Progression of the Bench, by Mike Strom

Max Effort Waves
Making the Max effort easy
Deload to Reload, all by Jim Wendler

Top Ten Squat Tips, by Ox Mason

Observations of Beginner Mistakes, by Chicken Hawk

Methods of Max Effort, by Dave Tate

Also here on T-Nation:

The Periodization Bible (I and II)
Bench Press 600lbs
Squat 900lbs
The Dead Zone

All by Dave Tate.

Now go read till your eyes bleed. Also, good luck with WS4SB, it’s a great program.

FYI-you can go to DeFranco’s site and search his Q&A section. He answers a lot of questions related to this program there.

[quote]jarvis wrote:
I’m pretty sure that where he wrote 3xMax for bench he meant benching at a given weight for the maximum amount of reps possible.
[/quote]

Nice catch I was thinkin he was going to the 3 rep max.

My fault good plan

Phill