[quote]Spry wrote:
Sheep not putting out lately?[/quote]
No, we keep exporting them across the ditch.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Spry wrote:
Sheep not putting out lately?
No, we keep exporting them across the ditch.
:([/quote]
Sorry about the missus.
[quote]Spry wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Spry wrote:
Sheep not putting out lately?
No, we keep exporting them across the ditch.
Sorry about the missus.
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Baaaah-bara?
OK, I admit, I haven’t read all 9 pages of this thread, only the first page! haha
I"m stronger than I use to be. That’s what counts.
We could always use the wilks formula to judge strength!
http://www.jackiebarrett.ca/define.htm
I have a wilks score of 221. I’d love to have a score in the mid 300’s
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you. I would have been much less cordial in my response, but that is basically what I was going to write.
Length of time training is not the issue. We have seen guys on this board who claim to have been lifting for two decades who still don’t know how to gain weight.
We are discussing DEDICATION and the guy who is truly dedicated won’t be small and weak for very long unless they are truly one of the few at the shallow end of the gene pool.
I have no doubt that there are several people here who are convinced they are training “hard” who are NOT. They won’t ever realize it because of the many others on this site who act like any progress at all is great progress.[/quote]
haha, you can be ‘cordial’ in some responses dude…it’s ok…we won’t think less of you.
i just wanted to get it right what your thoughts were; that whole “10 year” mark did seem a bit too odd to me…but if your talking about dedication then yeah…that makes all the difference. that will put quite the divide in between the classes of weightlifters.
but then you (again) run into the fact that everyone has their own idea of what this “dedication” really is. i guess there will always be people out there with delusional thoughts of grandure. at least they will always be in the cardio deck holding the silver weights and out of the rest of our way.
I think is is a good thread and the discussion has been amusing at times. Thanks for making this post B rocK. It is one of the only ones that I check regularly.
[quote]Kataklysm wrote:
kinein wrote:
respect ~ at least you can admit it kata ~ ;p but that won’t stop me from laughing at you ~ thanks for the chuckle.
Fine laugh at me, I’ll make fun of your gray beret 
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It ain’t a Beret! it’s a hat!!! taunting the beret is worthy to unleash the dogs of war on you. come donner come blitzen come makaveli!
Here is a perfect example. You have two fat ladies in a wheelchair, both weigh 308 and are the same age and height.
Lady A has a goal of being thin, gets her shit together, starts eating healthy, improves diet and exercising and gets her weight under control.
Lady B has the same goal of being thin, but really cant stop being fat or lazy, so she works her hardest to find a doctor who will operate on her before she loses any weight.
She finally finds one and gets a gastric bypass and loses a tremendous amount of weight eating extremely small meal portions, in fact she ends up being a bit thinner than Lady A, though Lady A continues to exercise and eat very well.
Do you think differently of the way Lady A lost her weight compared to Lady B?
[quote]B rocK wrote:
but then you (again) run into the fact that everyone has their own idea of what this “dedication” really is. i guess there will always be people out there with delusional thoughts of grandure. at least they will always be in the cardio deck holding the silver weights and out of the rest of our way.[/quote]
I am not concerned with anyone else’s personal definition of “dedication”. As has been said, there are people who think working out 5 times a week simply can’t be done if you live a “normal” life and have a job. I bet these people think they are “dedicated”.
They aren’t. This is why we don’t need to lose the more hardcore focus of this website. Once you let EVERYONE in, from the Hollywood dieters to the general fitness freaks who think anything over 150lbs is “too big”, you can’t slam the door again.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
Here is a perfect example. You have two fat ladies in a wheelchair, both weigh 308 and are the same age and height.
Lady A has a goal of being thin, gets her shit together, starts eating healthy, improves diet and exercising and gets her weight under control.
Lady B has the same goal of being thin, but really cant stop being fat or lazy, so she works her hardest to find a doctor who will operate on her before she loses any weight.
She finally finds one and gets a gastric bypass and loses a tremendous amount of weight eating extremely small meal portions, in fact she ends up being a bit thinner than Lady A, though Lady A continues to exercise and eat very well.
Do you think differently of the way Lady A lost her weight compared to Lady B?[/quote]
Yes, I would think differently of them and certainly I think the health benefits for lady A would be worth it which is really the point for them.
But is that really what this site is about? Do you think those ladies should post on RMP and get praise here? I mean good for them, but like X said if you want praise and encouragement for that go to weightwatchers or Jenny Craige or something.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
As has been said, there are people who think working out 5 times a week simply can’t be done if you live a “normal” life and have a job. [/quote]
I consider myself pretty a pretty average dude.
I workout 5-6 days per week, work full time (often 50-60 hour weeks + travel), find time for my wife and 2 young kids (after school activities, etc), up until recently played in a band (2 gigs per month), read at least 2 books per month, keep up with current events (I’m a news/political junky), participate in local events, support a photography/fishing/whitewater habit, and manage to get the family to church most of the time.
There are 90 minutes per day hard-wired into my days for the gym-- 30 of that is travel time. This block of time is non-negotiable.
If a schmuck like me can do it and make some gains, anyone can do it.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Professor X wrote:
As has been said, there are people who think working out 5 times a week simply can’t be done if you live a “normal” life and have a job.
I consider myself pretty a pretty average dude.
I workout 5-6 days per week, work full time (often 50-60 hour weeks + travel), find time for my wife and 2 young kids (after school activities, etc), up until recently played in a band (2 gigs per month), read at least 2 books per month, keep up with current events (I’m a news/political junky), participate in local events, support a photography/fishing/whitewater habit, and manage to get the family to church most of the time.
There are 90 minutes per day hard-wired into my days for the gym-- 30 of that is travel time. This block of time is non-negotiable.
If a schmuck like me can do it and make some gains, anyone can do it.
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I think a lot of people drastically underestimate what someone is actually doing when they CAN make it to the gym 6 days a week while holding down a full time job.
My meals are usually cooked up to a week in advance (at least 4 meals out of the day). I know my daily schedule down to what am eating at 2pm tomorrow. It takes planning and the desire to reach that goal in the first place.
honesty in forums that pertain to bodybuilding, powerlifting, MMA and the like, isn’t the norm. so to those who accept what they are, and strive to make improvements, good job.
whether you are “weak” or not, stay committed and you’ll see improvement.
SteelyD and Profeesor X - damn right! If it’s important, make the time. whether it’s training or food prep, know your goals and the steps to get there, and then take the neccesary action.
[quote]miroku333 wrote:
honesty in forums that pertain to bodybuilding, powerlifting, MMA and the like, isn’t the norm. so to those who accept what they are, and strive to make improvements, good job.
whether you are “weak” or not, stay committed and you’ll see improvement.
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Exactly I’ve been trying to say that for 3-4 pages.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am not concerned with anyone else’s personal definition of “dedication”. As has been said, there are people who think working out 5 times a week simply can’t be done if you live a “normal” life and have a job. I bet these people think they are “dedicated”.
They aren’t. This is why we don’t need to lose the more hardcore focus of this website. Once you let EVERYONE in, from the Hollywood dieters to the general fitness freaks who think anything over 150lbs is “too big”, you can’t slam the door again.[/quote]
That’s all good and well that you have your own meaning of the word; and don’t care about other people’s definition. I’m the same; some people just set their bar too friggin’ low.
This post wasn’t about peoples definitions of certain words though.
This was just about how I really thought there would be more people on here that were stronger. I do know that there are some; but there are just an overwhelming amount of people that are in the category that set the bar too low.
I also think that this thread does the oposite (not that you were implying that it was letting these people in) of let “everyone” in; I think that this is starting to be a thread that shows that there are alot of people on here that ‘need work’ and alot of people who just don’t have the right mindset.
But I’ll let you have another crack at my response man; I’m sure there is something you can pick appart on here lol
I’m glad there are a few people on here that are taking SOMETHING away from what everyone on this thread has had to say so far though!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
My meals are usually cooked up to a week in advance (at least 4 meals out of the day). I know my daily schedule down to what am eating at 2pm tomorrow. It takes planning and the desire to reach that goal in the first place.
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I find it easy to eat alot of the same thing throughout the day.
I have roughly 5-10lbs of chicken precooked and ready to roll consistently in my fridge/freezer as well as pasta and/or rice cooked and ready. The only thing that I don’t make ahead of time are my omlets and shakes.
Having the same thing; at the same time; day in and day out isn’t for everyone though. Some people like “variety”.
Variety for me is having bbq sauce instead of hot sauce or grated cheese instead of pasta sauce.
To each their own.
This is making me hungry…
6 Days a week you train X? Are you running through two 3 day splits?
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
6 Days a week you train X? Are you running through two 3 day splits?[/quote]
No. I’ve trained about 6 days a week for about 10 years now.
Ugh, stop fucking talking about genetics and go lift. Damn.
I don’t buy the genetics argument at all; In either direction. Unless you have Down’s Syndrome or some absolutely crippling disease, what are you even blaming on your genetic exactly? That your tricep kickbacks aren’t giving you quite the results you expected? That your insertion points make it absolutely impossible to build on your tiny bicep peak?
Just Smash Fucking Weights. Your body will find a way to make itself strong.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
6 Days a week you train X? Are you running through two 3 day splits?
No. I’ve trained about 6 days a week for about 10 years now.[/quote]
Come on!
“about 10 years now”
Is it under 10 years or over 10 years? I wanna know if you’re dedicated or not.