It seems that the latest pop culture act is to follow big guys around and complain/accuse about steroid use.
Viewing videos from CT Fletcher, Kali Muscle or even the Hodge Twins seems to bring with them typical youtube comments that mostly range around call outs, insults and accusations.
20 years ago, gym rats would have looked more for inspiration from guys like this…not just trying to tear them down. There would be more focus on what they did that worked…and not ignoring everything to mention a pop understanding of steroids.
What has changed…and is it really good for the serious weight lifter?
The only difference between today and 20 years ago is the availability of an avenue to voice an opinion that would otherwise be keep to oneself. The internet has allowed faceless cowards to say what ever they want to. 20 years ago the only way a person could accuse someone of something was face to face.
The Latest YouTube Storm seems to be that Kali Muscle uses fake weights…because that is way more important than looking at the attitude and drive that builds a body like that.
It is like losing sight of the forest for the trees. The new vibe is to make sure no one stands out?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It seems that the latest pop culture act is to follow big guys around and complain/accuse about steroid use.
Viewing videos from CT Fletcher, Kali Muscle or even the Hodge Twins seems to bring with them typical youtube comments that mostly range around call outs, insults and accusations.
20 years ago, gym rats would have looked more for inspiration from guys like this…not just trying to tear them down. There would be more focus on what they did that worked…and not ignoring everything to mention a pop understanding of steroids.
What has changed…and is it really good for the serious weight lifter?[/quote]
The people who do this are not strong, not very experienced with training, and believe that they know massively more about the lifting culture than they actually do. These people are not informed enough to know how things really work (regarding steroids), and they buy into the popular media’s portrayal of steroids and demonize users as they’re told they should.
I wish I could just sit down and talk with all these people individually. I have done this with a couple people in real life, and you can physically see the vitriol drain from their eyes.
[quote]csulli wrote:
I wish I could just sit down and talk with all these people individually. I have done this with a couple people in real life, and you can physically see the vitriol drain from their eyes.[/quote]
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
I see CT Fletcher and feel like hitting the gym harder…I don’t make a joke about steroids and brush off everything he says after that.
[quote]csulli wrote:
I wish I could just sit down and talk with all these people individually. I have done this with a couple people in real life, and you can physically see the vitriol drain from their eyes.[/quote]
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
I see CT Fletcher and feel like hitting the gym harder…I don’t make a joke about steroids and brush off everything he says after that.[/quote]
I think most people are like this. It’s not normal to jump on the comments section of a complete strangers videos and take a shit on them.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
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It’s easier to accept that steroids do everything than to face how far you really have to go and how much work and time it will take to get there. Not to mention the fact that, genetically, it may be 10x harder for you than for someone else, and no, it isn’t fair, but that’s just life.
[quote]csulli wrote:
I wish I could just sit down and talk with all these people individually. I have done this with a couple people in real life, and you can physically see the vitriol drain from their eyes.[/quote]
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
I see CT Fletcher and feel like hitting the gym harder…I don’t make a joke about steroids and brush off everything he says after that.[/quote]
CT’s the man, entertaining like no other. My favorite vid
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
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It’s easier to accept that steroids do everything than to face how far you really have to go and how much work and time it will take to get there. Not to mention the fact that, genetically, it may be 10x harder for you than for someone else, and no, it isn’t fair, but that’s just life.[/quote]
Regardless of steroid use or not, there is still a huge amount of effort put into building a body like that. I’ll use Bauber as an example. You think that he didn’t have to put in tremendous effort to look like that. AAS don’t change the amount of work that has to be put in, they merely make the upper limit of what is possible a little larger. You still have to put in the work to get there though.
IMO, one thing feeding the attitude is the use of proclaimed natural athletes in marketing, whose physiques are accessible to Average Joes and kids starting to lift weights. The halo surrounding the culture (natural, clean, whole, tested, etc.) simultaneously demonizes those perceived, or known, to not fit into it. The way I’ve read people write about it, there’s a distinction and it can come off as… moral.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Agreed. There is some real deep emotion in there most times. What causes that?
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It’s easier to accept that steroids do everything than to face how far you really have to go and how much work and time it will take to get there. Not to mention the fact that, genetically, it may be 10x harder for you than for someone else, and no, it isn’t fair, but that’s just life.[/quote]
Regardless of steroid use or not, there is still a huge amount of effort put into building a body like that. I’ll use Bauber as an example. You think that he didn’t have to put in tremendous effort to look like that. AAS don’t change the amount of work that has to be put in, they merely make the upper limit of what is possible a little larger. You still have to put in the work to get there though.[/quote]
However, there seem to be many people who will act as if steroid use somehow makes it so none of the rules matter anymore.
I feel that pop culture media has done a great job of allowing the masses to dictate what most people believe can and can’t be done.
If someone the size of the Hodge Twins is now being accused of steroid use simply because they have muscles…won’t this affect perception as a whole in society over time?
Yeah…it would seem many people DO believe someone like Bauber injected his way to progress…because that is all most will focus on.
Mostly for the love of self righteous indignation. Some people love being disillusioned in some strange morbid way.
The people that get on my nerves are the ones who are the self appointed straighteners of the record (the bald guy who’s vids show up a lot here lately comes to mind). That is all he seems to do. I don’t know how successful he may be, but it just seems like an unnecessary case of sour grapes to produce an endless amount of videos calling everybody else liars and cheats while claiming to have the real lowdown on how to get strong. Other S&C coaches that actually are doing well don’t do that. They’re too busy helping people win. They also have the smarts to exercise some discretion instead of popping off like a giddy little 9 year old tattle tale.
Is it really good for the serious lifter? It’s probably a moot point for anybody who is really dedicated. They’re going to do what they do because that is who they are, disenchanted youtube trainers be damned.
[quote]fncj wrote:
IMO, one thing feeding the attitude is the use of proclaimed natural athletes in marketing, whose physiques are accessible to Average Joes and kids starting to lift weights. The halo surrounding the culture (natural, clean, whole, tested, etc.) simultaneously demonizes those perceived, or known, to not fit into it. The way I’ve read people write about it, there’s a distinction and it can come off as… moral.
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…translation, it is all about the Benjamins.
I would even say this motive is leading the charge.
“Buy our supplements…our poster boy is all natural”.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Mostly for the love of self righteous indignation. Some people love being disillusioned in some strange morbid way.
The people that get on my nerves are the ones who are the self appointed straighteners of the record (the bald guy who’s vids show up a lot here lately comes to mind). That is all he seems to do. I don’t know how successful he may be, but it just seems like an unnecessary case of sour grapes to produce an endless amount of videos calling everybody else liars and cheats while claiming to have the real lowdown on how to get strong. Other S&C coaches that actually are doing well don’t do that. They’re too busy helping people win. They also have the smarts to exercise some discretion instead of popping off like a giddy little 9 year old tattle tale.
Is it really good for the serious lifter? It’s probably a moot point for anybody who is really dedicated. They’re going to do what they do because that is who they are, disenchanted youtube trainers be damned.
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Well to be fair, YouTube is about money. You don’t have to be correct to make money. Just like McDonald’s doesn’t have to feed your “real” food to make money. At that point, just like any corporation, you will go to great lengths just to increase the profits, even if it does result in a lower quality content. Even though I don’t agree with it, I can’t blame someone for finding a way that works for them, to make money.
Times have changed. It’s never going to be the way it was. You are not going to single handedly bring back the glory days. I thought you found better things to do with your time than trying to strong arm mass culture into what you want it to be from a message board.
