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Nothing that impressive, but while still sore in the ass and hams area from lunges last friday, it’s not that bad of a lift.

Blue Band Deadlift - 585lbs

I have wrapping tape around my right hand because I tore a callous which fuck’n hurt. but I said fuck it, and wrapped it up and lifted again. I don’t think I should of done that, cause it hurts wicked bad, but whatever. “Shut up and lift”

Landon, though I’m impressed by your lift, I can’t help but feel such form is a recipe for a herniated disc.

DI

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kick ass dude

I think its more of a recipe to get strong. Bear beliee dat. His form was actually pretty good. KnightRT must be a personal trainer.

For all nonbelievers:

You can’t pick up heavy weight without some round in the back. Just ain’t gonna happen.

Addendum:

Sounds like a pretty hard gym. Far better than the shit I have to put up with.

Kewl.

That is why i have my old dissection kit at home, so when i tear a callous i can use the scalpel to shave it down so it wont tear again, a good exacto would work well, give it a try for your hand. Nice dead.

Goldberg:

Watch it again. Zoom in, and pay particular attention to the beginning of the lift, right around the 6 second mark. The legs fire… and rise. The back does not. Moments later, the back bears the entire load.

Fine for stiff-legged lifts or good mornings, but his back is rounded. No arch at all. And I fear that belt is the only thing holding it together.

Don’t be such a wiseass.

DI

Thanks all.

OGuard, maybe I will have to do that today. Shit … I woke up and it will killing. Oh well … I don’t be pulling for a couple weeks anyways.

Knight, like Ike said, it’s gonna roll. And as for bust’n my back all over the place … that just ain’t gonna happen with the weight I’m pulling. I’d need a lot more weight to even touch my back. Not to brag, but my lower back is pretty rock.

KnightRT. Watch a great deadlifter. They round. This isnt bodybuilding. Its about picking up as much as possible. You try your best to arch but its not going to happen with max loads. Poliquin has even said this. With any significant amount of weight, the back is going to round. Wiseass.

Landon -
Is the bar resting a bit off the ground? I ask this because I see that you list your height at 5’7". I am 6’5" and am going to start deadlifting and was wondering if I need to have the bar resting on supports also, maybe even higher. Thanks for sharing the video.

Andrew

What Goldberg is saying is pretty much true, you should always try to fight to keep your arch, however when handling maximal loads, some rounding will occur, as long as the back is not completely rounded things should be alright. However as i said you should still be fighting to keep and arch even if it is not possible to maintain it with max weight. I know that when i pulled 700 there was a slight rounding of my back just due to the sheer weight i was moving, and i tried my best to keep an arch.

Cool video. Good lift.

I have started recording my lifts to check my form, so far it’s been a real eye opener on squats for me.

A couple of questions (for my info, not a critique):
What is your height and BW?
How much tension to the bands have (estimate)?
And why not start right off the floor?

Landon:

I hope you’re right.

Goldberg:

No, it’s about stupidity. Rounding the back as a substitute for hamstring strength is <a href=http://pub5.ezboard.com/fbetterbodyinjuries.showMessage?topicID=6.topic>flagrantly poor form. You’ve chimed in about squatting technique in the past, but apparently that doesn’t apply to ‘max loads.’

I’m forced to temper much of what’s said on this board with the desire to lift well into old age. Call it a pitfall of having a surgeon in the family. Frankly, I don’t care what you do.

DI

I cant believe you linked me to that board. hahaha. With significant weight, your back is going to round. The fins even teach deadlifing with a completely rounded upper back. They are the best deadlifters in the world. If your deadlifting for the first time, or you are a weak bastard, then go ahead and be sure to keep your arch. If you are strong and lifting a max weight, it is gonna round. but if you want to use the excuse of not wanting to get hurt as your excuse not to get strong, then go right ahead. remember excuses are like assholes. everybody has got one.

And the squat is a different lift than the deadlift. Its much easier to keep your arch with a squat than a deadlift. This is why as Dave Tate says, training is as much art as it is science. A scientist may say to keep the arch at all costs. One who practices both art and science knows this isnt feasable.

Something else to keep in mind is that the Westside boys don’t do full squats or deads that often. Arching your back for 10 sets of 3 heavy reps in the deadlift every week for years could lead to more injuries than rounding your back on an occasional ME lift every few weeks or months. Just a thought.

[quote]Malcolmzilla
Cool video. Good lift.

I have started recording my lifts to check my form, so far it’s been a real eye opener on squats for me.

A couple of questions (for my info, not a critique):
What is your height and BW?
How much tension to the bands have (estimate)?
And why not start right off the floor?
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Height: 5’7"
BW yesterday: 186.4lbs
Tension: don’t know, but from where I put the bands, 150 was right at the rack beem.

I couldn’t do them off the floor due to the beem that is part of the rack. I deal with it.

The weight past my knees felt heavier than any 500lb deadlift I’ve done, maybe because those blue bands are 2 years old and been used and abused.

I’m not even going to get into the whole breaking your back argument. I think it takes common sense. And for my legs firing first, then my back … I do this purposely. I try to get my legs locked back, then power it up, because when I fail my deadlifts, it’s when I get my back upright, then fail at midthigh. Yah, it’s probably a hamstring issue, but I’m bringing everything up equally. So while my hamstrings get stronger, I’ll deadlift more, squat more, good morning more, etc … it’s all relative.

p.s. I’m gonna beat Goldberg’s 405 GM next week. BELIEVE THAT! wink jay.

Im gonna have to go with knight on this one , his form is bad. But its true that when using so much weight the back erectors are going to arch…CAUS THEY’RE NOT STRONG ENOUGH!!!Lose the damn belt! Its also right to say that the risk for injury augments exponentially with each lift.

hope you’re not doing 1 RM too often