Vert/Speed Training Thread

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Here’s a rim grab from the vert. The angle is terrible, you can’t tell anything. Posted this before checking the vid. Had some dunks but they looked just as bad so didn’t post 'em. Need to find someone to take the vids.[/quote]

lmao @ that angle, that is by far the worst angle i’ve ever seen in a vert vid hahaha

nice jump tho

peace

[quote]adarqui wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Here’s a rim grab from the vert. The angle is terrible, you can’t tell anything. Posted this before checking the vid. Had some dunks but they looked just as bad so didn’t post 'em. Need to find someone to take the vids.[/quote]

lmao @ that angle, that is by far the worst angle i’ve ever seen in a vert vid hahaha

nice jump tho

peace[/quote]

Haha, right? Looks like I’m jumping on a NERF hoop. Got the new EVO and it has a prong that flips out on the back so I rested the cam on the foul line. Didn’t realize how bad it was before I posted it. The dunks looked even worse. Tried putting it a little further out and you couldn’t even see the rim. My bad y’all. Gonna try for a better vid Thursday.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]adarqui wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Here’s a rim grab from the vert. The angle is terrible, you can’t tell anything. Posted this before checking the vid. Had some dunks but they looked just as bad so didn’t post 'em. Need to find someone to take the vids.[/quote]

lmao @ that angle, that is by far the worst angle i’ve ever seen in a vert vid hahaha

nice jump tho

peace[/quote]

Haha, right? Looks like I’m jumping on a NERF hoop. Got the new EVO and it has a prong that flips out on the back so I rested the cam on the foul line. Didn’t realize how bad it was before I posted it. The dunks looked even worse. Tried putting it a little further out and you couldn’t even see the rim. My bad y’all. Gonna try for a better vid Thursday.[/quote]

lol I guess my idea didnt work! Too bad you dont have the side goals where you can prop it on the crash pad… works perfect for me :slight_smile:

^^^ Haha. I was thinking about bringing in a 12" plyo box and putting the phone on it but we probably woulda had a 10 second vid of the rafters. I’ll figure something out fa sho.

not a vert but jumping nonetheless…

that was post workout (heavy-ish DL’s and Power Cleans) so I didnt get much height at all lol.

^^^ Sweet backflip, and the clap and point was a solid way to cap the dismount. 9.5.

[quote]gregron wrote:
not a vert but jumping nonetheless…

that was post workout (heavy-ish DL’s and Power Cleans) so I didnt get much height at all lol.[/quote]

wtf? boss!@$!@

im too much of a pussy to backflip, which is odd, when i was young i could front/back flip easily… sadly i became a pansy…

this is interesting… quad has been pulled pretty bad the last 3 days then im doing some light bball work at the gym last night, and i go up for real light layup and hit the rim so it got me into jumping mode off one leg… im personally amazed at how good my single leg jumping looks, considering i havn’t gone max off 1 leg since like 4-5+ months ago.

wtf?

new jumping motivation, im definitely going to stay consistent from now on with single leg… no more bullshitting with it… i honestly see more potential there than with my double considering those jumps, my leg injury, etc…

i could barely grab rim two handed koz of my quad injury yet im almost throwing down hard dunks off single leg…

so weird

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^ Sweet backflip, and the clap and point was a solid way to cap the dismount. 9.5.[/quote]

Haha thanks. I was pretty pumped after landing it cause the last time I attempted one I may, or may not have been pretty intoxicated and landed on my head lol.

I’ve tried the search function but haven’t been able to locate the info I’m looking for…

I’m looking for something decent (preferably online) about vertical jumping technique. Not a program for improving vertical jump or anything like that, but more of a description of what a mechanically efficient jump should look like given different levers or something along those lines.

I’d be grateful if anyone had a link or something like that.

Thanks.

[quote]alexus wrote:
I’ve tried the search function but haven’t been able to locate the info I’m looking for…

I’m looking for something decent (preferably online) about vertical jumping technique. Not a program for improving vertical jump or anything like that, but more of a description of what a mechanically efficient jump should look like given different levers or something along those lines.

I’d be grateful if anyone had a link or something like that.

Thanks.[/quote]

double or single leg? there’s lots of papers and analysis for single leg jumping, but, for double, there really isn’t much, and there shouldn’t be, just way too much variety in plant styles/levers/hip dominant jumps/quad dominant jumps etc…

imo, jump technique is overrated and is usually a horrible pitfall people slip into… if you’re getting in jumps 2-3x/week, max effort, and you’re getting stronger through the lower body and upper body, increasing greatly your relative strength & how fast you can display that releative strength, your jumps will change automatically… it’s been my case and the case for most everyone i’ve delt with online… making only subtle changes to what you think about during a jump can help, such as getting a little deeper in the plant, only thinking about jumping as high as possible, really thinking about arm swing, etc can help… but trying to change form overall, is usually a failure.

let your training change your form… progressing your reactive work (plyos, hops etc) + improvements in relative strength under the bar (squat, lunge, calf raise, and general upper/core) will yield positive technique/form changes without you even trying to make them…

a quick example is someone who is weight-room dominant, becomes overly “strength dominant”, they usually jump pretty slow and get really low in their plants… incorporating reactive works, bounds/pogos/halftuck jumps etc and improving the volume/focusing on getting up as high as possible with shortest GCT, can end up changing their jump style without them focusing one bit on plant depth/jump speed.

peace

Thanks very much for taking the time to respond to me. I finally managed to find the jump neural charge exercises. Very helpful for me with respect to getting a rough idea of how you are supposed to dip, use your arms, and whereish on your feet you were supposed to land etc. Recovering from injury so don’t have much (if anything) of ‘what seems natural’. Also female and I heard females often don’t naturally jump in a particularly good way. Just wanted to make sure I was on track when I introduce some simple jumps. Maybe it will help my Oly lifting lol. Peace.

hope you heal up quick ^^

some submax jumps/dunks with my tweaked quad, got up pretty good considering i didn’t really push it… things are looking promising but my quad has red bruising all over it from yesterday, so that’s not good… it also hurts more again, whack… can’t wait until this heals.

also got my friend jamie on here who hits 35.5" standing on the jumpmat…

Kinda pointless… But i thought it was cool:

I was playing around at this outdoor gym at the local YMCA and I dunked a nerf soccerball twice. I couldn’t keep ahold of the basketball but did the squishy nerf ball with ease. I think the rim was probably a little low but didn’t have anything to measure it with. It was still pretty awesome though. I liked jumping on the blacktop.

[quote]gregron wrote:
Kinda pointless… But i thought it was cool:

I was playing around at this outdoor gym at the local YMCA and I dunked a nerf soccerball twice. I couldn’t keep ahold of the basketball but did the squishy nerf ball with ease. I think the rim was probably a little low but didn’t have anything to measure it with. It was still pretty awesome though. I liked jumping on the blacktop.[/quote]

cool, i like jumping on hard court too, mostly because there’s fresh air, trees and shit… heh

insomnia dunks, 0-3 hours of sleep for any of the footage in the vid:

peace

big shit comin`

some pics:

head height jumps after the 1hour dunk session:

My groin is still all jacked up despite my not really doing anything this week. It’s been about 3 weeks now [total] and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. It hurts when I cough/sneeze/laugh, etc… If it’s not better by next week I might bight the bullet and go see a doc. This is getting rididculous.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
My groin is still all jacked up despite my not really doing anything this week. It’s been about 3 weeks now [total] and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. It hurts when I cough/sneeze/laugh, etc… If it’s not better by next week I might bight the bullet and go see a doc. This is getting rididculous.[/quote]

That sucks. I pulled my groin before my other injuries. I had a cold and every time I coughed it hurt like hell. It took me about 2-3 months before I was back on the court. I went to the doc and all he did was ask me if I wanted a prescription for physical therapy. Hopefully, yours is less severe. Good luck with it.

[quote]adarqui wrote:
big shit comin`

some pics:

head height jumps after the 1hour dunk session:

nice vid man. Probably my favorite dunk video you’ve posted. I guess I’m just a sucker for the two handers (those two hand catches to one hand dunks were nice)

what effect is that when youre camera goes to that grey and red? Kinda like a thermal view but not? It looks tight

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
My groin is still all jacked up despite my not really doing anything this week. It’s been about 3 weeks now [total] and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. It hurts when I cough/sneeze/laugh, etc… If it’s not better by next week I might bight the bullet and go see a doc. This is getting rididculous.[/quote]

That sucks. I pulled my groin before my other injuries. I had a cold and every time I coughed it hurt like hell. It took me about 2-3 months before I was back on the court. I went to the doc and all he did was ask me if I wanted a prescription for physical therapy. Hopefully, yours is less severe. Good luck with it.[/quote]

that really sucks man. I havent jumped in a while cause of my groin. I kinda tweaked it a couple weeks ago playing in an adult flag football league that I’m in. I’ve been foam rolling a lot and stretching/riding the bike to loosen things up but its still a little sore. It feels a lot better today so I might try some jumping and see whats up.

seems like everyone posting in the vert thread are a bunch of broke dicks lol.