[quote]the_next_arnold wrote:
well waylander this weekend is the show and i will prove u wrong maybe u dont beleive in me competing naturally against juiced up competitors but i know i can do it. i have seen guys do it in the past. and if one cant compete at novice level naturally then they wasting there time. [/quote]
Not trying to bash you dude. I just don’t see why you would want to do a competition where you are already putting yourself at a disadvantage. There are natty competitions for a reason.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
if I remember correctly there was an Olympic athlete that was kicked out because he took cold medicine which had psudoephedrine in it.
It was a she.
They took her medal because she had allergies and took a single sudafed the day of.
Tested positive for amphetamines, sudafed is used to create meth for a reason.[/quote]
ya, I was thinking of a guy as well, but yes it happens though.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Brook wrote:
I agree - for the majority of the training population Way would be right, BUT there are some who are simply so gifted it is unbelieveable.
I used to know a couple of natural brothers at 18-20 who were in fantastic shape and were competing in untested shows - they were totally amazing.
Brook
You are right of course but the OP posted pics in the bodybuilding forum. He’s not one of the people you speak of and I think Waylander was aware of that. [/quote]
Fair enough - i havent seen this guy.
On a side note, Bonez, you look great mate. A hell of a difference from your last Avatar!
[quote] Brook wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Brook wrote:
I agree - for the majority of the training population Way would be right, BUT there are some who are simply so gifted it is unbelieveable.
I used to know a couple of natural brothers at 18-20 who were in fantastic shape and were competing in untested shows - they were totally amazing.
Brook
You are right of course but the OP posted pics in the bodybuilding forum. He’s not one of the people you speak of and I think Waylander was aware of that.
Fair enough - i havent seen this guy.
On a side note, Bonez, you look great mate. A hell of a difference from your last Avatar!
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Thanks. Things are really clicking right now, it’s nice.
I know what you mean bonez - i recently came off a break from training and eating well and the lot - 2 months, and i was impressed that i kept the muscle i did. Very impressed, as i thought i would strip a good 10lbs at least… i kept all the muscle and just gained some fat!
As an ectomorph naturally, that is totally acceptable to me
I have since sorted my life out and am back 100% - i am only 3 weeks into training, a lil tren and test and the response has been great.
15-dry-lbs and i will cut to compete, leaving me at around 200lbs and 3-4% @ 5’9".
[quote]GDI Inc wrote:
There are all kind of rules if you compete…but to me natural means you have never used hormones or pro hormones and ephedrine isn’t one imo.[/quote]
Well, it sadly isnt upto what you consider natural or not - it is the Federation in question.
I personally believe a natural athlete would not use any PED on the banned list, with food supplements being legal - amino’s etc. No hormone or stimulant related products.
I believe a tested athlete will often have used banned substances BUT they manipulate them to ensure clean doping tests, or have simply used in the past… the latter being often the case IMO.
I LIKE the fact that BB has non-tested feds. I think it evens the playing field and i would much prefer to see a dozen highly trained massively muscular bodybuilders at a show than some of the scrawny BB’s we get here in the UK in tested events!
Saying this, i do not mean to slam tested BB’s at all… many are fantastic and have true dedication, commitment and talent, but many (in the UK at least) have no right to be up on the stage, i feel they make a mockery of the dedication of the other athletes to succeed in this sport - or even to get on stage and look remotely good.)
[quote] Brook wrote:
I LIKE the fact that BB has non-tested feds. I think it evens the playing field and i would much prefer to see a dozen highly trained massively muscular bodybuilders at a show than some of the scrawny BB’s we get here in the UK in tested events!
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This is why untested BBing is the greatest sport. It isn’t possible to cheat lol, I mean how cool is that?
