some raw squat rep prs
405x5 last week and 420x3 today, pretty sure im good for 4 @ 420
weight has been fluctuating btwn 144-150
I’ve done 385x2 at a 3" deficit and only got 345x5 today off of 4" blocks. Where does this put my weakness at? Kinda sucks that I’ve spent this whole time doing deficit deads for no damn reason.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
I’ve done 385x2 at a 3" deficit and only got 345x5 today off of 4" blocks. Where does this put my weakness at? Kinda sucks that I’ve spent this whole time doing deficit deads for no damn reason. [/quote]
Why would you want to increase the deficit more? There is a point of diminishing returns on deficits . I do mine on a 3.5" box.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
I’ve done 385x2 at a 3" deficit and only got 345x5 today off of 4" blocks. Where does this put my weakness at? Kinda sucks that I’ve spent this whole time doing deficit deads for no damn reason. [/quote]
what can you pull from the floor? where do you fail?
I honestly dont think anyone can tell you where you weak from the above vid/info(also the vid looks to be you pulling 385/5 off blocks)
@Tom: Yea I only pull from around a 2.5-3" deficit.
@iluvgmas: It’s 345. I pull 405 from the floor and have been stuck there for about 6-8 months. I’m slow off the floor so I figured deficits would work, but it seems like I’m stronger on deficits and it didn’t carry over at all. This is my point, I can’t pull 405 off of 4" blocks. So to me it seems I should stick with block pulls and regular DLs. When I calculate my max from the rep maxes it comes out to be Deficit-410, Blocks-400. How could I be stronger with 7 more inches to travel?
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
@Tom: Yea I only pull from around a 2.5-3" deficit.
@iluvgmas: It’s 345. I pull 405 from the floor and have been stuck there for about 6-8 months. I’m slow off the floor so I figured deficits would work, but it seems like I’m stronger on deficits and it didn’t carry over at all. This is my point, I can’t pull 405 off of 4" blocks. So to me it seems I should stick with block pulls and regular DLs. When I calculate my max from the rep maxes it comes out to be Deficit-410, Blocks-400. How could I be stronger with 7 more inches to travel?[/quote]
I see, I had a similar situation awhile ago (405 out of the bottom pins and 405 off the floor)
it sounds like your problem is lockout strength.
do you have the set up reverse band deads? are you familiar with the “future method” I use avg or light bands set them up btwn 5-6ft high to start work up to what you want to pull(425-435 would probably be reasonable) lower the height of the bands every training session until your pulling unsupported
[quote]iluvgmas wrote:
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
@Tom: Yea I only pull from around a 2.5-3" deficit.
@iluvgmas: It’s 345. I pull 405 from the floor and have been stuck there for about 6-8 months. I’m slow off the floor so I figured deficits would work, but it seems like I’m stronger on deficits and it didn’t carry over at all. This is my point, I can’t pull 405 off of 4" blocks. So to me it seems I should stick with block pulls and regular DLs. When I calculate my max from the rep maxes it comes out to be Deficit-410, Blocks-400. How could I be stronger with 7 more inches to travel?[/quote]
I see, I had a similar situation awhile ago (405 out of the bottom pins and 405 off the floor)
it sounds like your problem is lockout strength.
do you have the set up reverse band deads? are you familiar with the “future method” I use avg or light bands set them up btwn 5-6ft high to start work up to what you want to pull(425-435 would probably be reasonable) lower the height of the bands every training session until your pulling unsupported[/quote]
Well damn I’ve never thought of that one. I acutally just bought some light bands too so Ima give that a go. I really appreciate it man. Do you have any info on the future method?
Between a day with the ladyfriend and college orientation the past few days, training has basically been nonexistant this week. Gonna have to set some PR’s next week to hopefully make up for it.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]iluvgmas wrote:
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
@Tom: Yea I only pull from around a 2.5-3" deficit.
@iluvgmas: It’s 345. I pull 405 from the floor and have been stuck there for about 6-8 months. I’m slow off the floor so I figured deficits would work, but it seems like I’m stronger on deficits and it didn’t carry over at all. This is my point, I can’t pull 405 off of 4" blocks. So to me it seems I should stick with block pulls and regular DLs. When I calculate my max from the rep maxes it comes out to be Deficit-410, Blocks-400. How could I be stronger with 7 more inches to travel?[/quote]
I see, I had a similar situation awhile ago (405 out of the bottom pins and 405 off the floor)
it sounds like your problem is lockout strength.
do you have the set up reverse band deads? are you familiar with the “future method” I use avg or light bands set them up btwn 5-6ft high to start work up to what you want to pull(425-435 would probably be reasonable) lower the height of the bands every training session until your pulling unsupported[/quote]
Well damn I’ve never thought of that one. I acutally just bought some light bands too so Ima give that a go. I really appreciate it man. Do you have any info on the future method?[/quote]
I havnt seen any articles, I have seen it mentioned in Westside vids and supertraining vids as well. everything I can find basically says lightened/future method is reverse band deadlifts
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well.
[quote]sparkskk wrote:
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well. [/quote]
I usually eat till I just about puke 4 times a day with 1 or 2 other meals. Most training days I eat a large pizza or something similar a couple hours before I train and that works pretty well for me. I’ve always had trouble putting food down though so it’s probably still not enough. I’m very inconsistent with it though. Some days I’ll get over 5,000 cals while others only 3,000. So you’re probably right.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]sparkskk wrote:
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well. [/quote]
I usually eat till I just about puke 4 times a day with 1 or 2 other meals. Most training days I eat a large pizza or something similar a couple hours before I train and that works pretty well for me. I’ve always had trouble putting food down though so it’s probably still not enough. I’m very inconsistent with it though. Some days I’ll get over 5,000 cals while others only 3,000. So you’re probably right.[/quote]
I found this digestive aid thing at walmart. The primary ingredient is betaine hydrochloride and it’s got some other things in there that I have no idea if they do anything or not. But the point is that it can help raise your max food limit. I also find high volume lifting greatly stimulates my appetite. I have nervous stomach syndrome so I’ve done some searching to find what works for me.
Also, add cheese to everything you can. A ton of it. Only have drinks with calories in them. I like gatorade myself because it has less fructose than most sodas and fruit drinks. Adding heavy whipping cream to protein shakes and glasses of milk is a very easy way to add calories. If I’m trying to gain weight, adding toppings to a frozen pizza can help. Like some sandwich ham and extra pepperoni or whatever else you can think of. Be creative. The more calories and the less filling a something is, the better.
Just be sure to watch your blood pressure and at a minimum go for regular brisk walks while doing this and try to keep your stress levels down. Stress is a sure fire way to kill appetite. At least for me. And be sure to take lots of fish oil. The dirtier the food you add, the more important this becomes for body comp. and more importantly general health.
I just ran into this thread in the BB forum. I thought these were some pretty good ideas.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]sparkskk wrote:
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well. [/quote]
I usually eat till I just about puke 4 times a day with 1 or 2 other meals. Most training days I eat a large pizza or something similar a couple hours before I train and that works pretty well for me. I’ve always had trouble putting food down though so it’s probably still not enough. I’m very inconsistent with it though. Some days I’ll get over 5,000 cals while others only 3,000. So you’re probably right.[/quote]
Have you tried eating less? Haha. I’m only joking obviously. Doesn’t sound like you’re cutting yourself short on the fuel side of things anyway.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]sparkskk wrote:
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well. [/quote]
I usually eat till I just about puke 4 times a day with 1 or 2 other meals. Most training days I eat a large pizza or something similar a couple hours before I train and that works pretty well for me. I’ve always had trouble putting food down though so it’s probably still not enough. I’m very inconsistent with it though. Some days I’ll get over 5,000 cals while others only 3,000. So you’re probably right.[/quote]
I found this digestive aid thing at walmart. The primary ingredient is betaine hydrochloride and it’s got some other things in there that I have no idea if they do anything or not. But the point is that it can help raise your max food limit. I also find high volume lifting greatly stimulates my appetite. I have nervous stomach syndrome so I’ve done some searching to find what works for me.
Also, add cheese to everything you can. A ton of it. Only have drinks with calories in them. I like gatorade myself because it has less fructose than most sodas and fruit drinks. Adding heavy whipping cream to protein shakes and glasses of milk is a very easy way to add calories. If I’m trying to gain weight, adding toppings to a frozen pizza can help. Like some sandwich ham and extra pepperoni or whatever else you can think of. Be creative. The more calories and the less filling a something is, the better.
Just be sure to watch your blood pressure and at a minimum go for regular brisk walks while doing this and try to keep your stress levels down. Stress is a sure fire way to kill appetite. At least for me. And be sure to take lots of fish oil. The dirtier the food you add, the more important this becomes for body comp. and more importantly general health.[/quote]
Yea I push some milk down at every meal, that’s what usually gets me. One thing I have added lately is raw eggs to my shakes. I pasteurize eggs I get from a lady down the street. 3 raw eggs, 32oz of milk and some whey makes for a pretty heavy shake. What’s this digestive aid you’re talking about? I appreciate all the tips. Especially the cheese one.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
You been watching that mobilitywod I showed you?[/quote]
Sadly no. I lost the link. Shoot me a message with it via some median that we communicate. Or post it in the group or this thread so many people can see. There’s so much information there it’ll take me awhile to sort through it.
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
[quote]sparkskk wrote:
I pulled 175kg x 4 this week. The estimated max from this doesn’t beat my actual max of 205kg but it was a rep max for me so I’m happy with it.
@chaz: have you been eating enough to fuel a decent training session? I’m not trying to be an ass here or anything but it might be something to consider if you haven’t already. DLing really takes it out of me. I need to eat like a horse to train well. [/quote]
I usually eat till I just about puke 4 times a day with 1 or 2 other meals. Most training days I eat a large pizza or something similar a couple hours before I train and that works pretty well for me. I’ve always had trouble putting food down though so it’s probably still not enough. I’m very inconsistent with it though. Some days I’ll get over 5,000 cals while others only 3,000. So you’re probably right.[/quote]
I found this digestive aid thing at walmart. The primary ingredient is betaine hydrochloride and it’s got some other things in there that I have no idea if they do anything or not. But the point is that it can help raise your max food limit. I also find high volume lifting greatly stimulates my appetite. I have nervous stomach syndrome so I’ve done some searching to find what works for me.
Also, add cheese to everything you can. A ton of it. Only have drinks with calories in them. I like gatorade myself because it has less fructose than most sodas and fruit drinks. Adding heavy whipping cream to protein shakes and glasses of milk is a very easy way to add calories. If I’m trying to gain weight, adding toppings to a frozen pizza can help. Like some sandwich ham and extra pepperoni or whatever else you can think of. Be creative. The more calories and the less filling a something is, the better.
Just be sure to watch your blood pressure and at a minimum go for regular brisk walks while doing this and try to keep your stress levels down. Stress is a sure fire way to kill appetite. At least for me. And be sure to take lots of fish oil. The dirtier the food you add, the more important this becomes for body comp. and more importantly general health.[/quote]
Yea I push some milk down at every meal, that’s what usually gets me. One thing I have added lately is raw eggs to my shakes. I pasteurize eggs I get from a lady down the street. 3 raw eggs, 32oz of milk and some whey makes for a pretty heavy shake. What’s this digestive aid you’re talking about? I appreciate all the tips. Especially the cheese one.[/quote]
I completely forgot. I just remember it has betaine hcl and some stuff like ox bile and some different enzymes and acidopholis or however you spell it. It was at a good price too, especially for how well it works. Start by taking the recommended amount, then take just enough to have a very slight burning sensation, then take one less than that next time.
Also, if you make something like spaghetti, use an alfredo sauce or something creamy, not the red sauce, and use beef not chicken. And of course, dump a bunch of cheese on top. Great meal for adding calories and it’s easy to add veges to also.
Lactase (lactaid) may help too. Even if your body does produce lactase, for someone consuming a lot of dairy, it’s often not enough to be optimal.
And don’t forget about eating a handful of nuts inbetween meals whenever you get the chance. They’re good to bring to work too. Some people have a jar of candy. Well you can have a thing of nuts. Almonds have lots of protein and lots of good fat. Peanuts have a good macro and micro profile, but they can be a little harder on the gut.
I also ran into a good protein french toast recipe on elitefts.com made by Josh Bryant. Just douse it in syrup for even more cals.
Be sure to check out the link to the thread in the BB forum too. I saw great ideas there.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
[quote]chazdaman wrote:
You been watching that mobilitywod I showed you?[/quote]
Sadly no. I lost the link. Shoot me a message with it via some median that we communicate. Or post it in the group or this thread so many people can see. There’s so much information there it’ll take me awhile to sort through it.[/quote]
That’s his website. A new wod everyday I believe.
I do this one before every squat session and it does wonders. It even got my dad breaking parallel.
Hit 415x6 today on deads. Rather disappointing, I’m not sure if I’ll be able to get 500 come July. Which reminds me, I still have to register for that meet.
are you pulling conventional or sumo?
Sometimes the reps on deadlift can be misleading… as I pulled 512 in my meet, but based on one rep max calculators for my deadlift reps it should have been lower.