Training Personal Records

[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
Two weeks ago, 97.5X3 snatch, 110X3 C&J.
Scroll down this page for video.
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_senior/ol_world_record_assault?id=2519035&pageNo=5 [/quote]

Those snatches are one of the most impressive things that I’ve seen posted in this thread so far, in my opinion of course!!

Your speed under the bar is really, really good. I’m pretty jealous that your snatch is so rock solid and that I’m no where even close to it.

[quote]c. wrote:
I have a hard time claiming PR’s that aren’t 1RM’s from the lifts I’m working on. It just seems cheap to me. If I gain 5lbs in any of my 3 lifts, then I will proudly claim that personal record.

An extra 2 reps in my dips doesn’t justify a PR. But its a step towards gaining in my bench. Or pulling 20lbs more from pins, won’t excite me until that transfers to the floor.

I just don’t like to over use something that important, for insignificant gains. When I get a new PR some day, you can bet your ass it will be put in bold, for all the world to see. Well, my world:) But until that day, I will just take the satisfaction of knowing I’m getting stronger, and moving closer to my goals.

not to be a stick in the dirt.

Great thread though Meat:)

I’ll be sure to come back when I pull that 300.

From the floor.

c.[/quote]

i’m just glad you stopped by:)

here’s some :)'s for you:)

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Thanks guys for the info on the cameras. I am not what you might call “tech savy.”

C Do you not have indicators? I know if my GM rep max is up then my DL will be better off the floor. Personally, if my front squat is better…well, my front squat is better and it doesn’t mean crap for my power squat.

Either way, I love the idea. If all of my PRs were single reps I would have maybe 2 a year in the powerlifts, and I’m way too ADD for that. Guess that is why I have used the westside for a while…I love having a new pr in band/weight releaser/2 chain/2 board bench maxes. :wink:

Seated overhead press
195x3,3 (nose height)(PR weight +5)

BB row
250 2x5 (PR reps +2)

EZ Curl
130x5,5 (PR reps +2)

Good session today

With a bonus that I saw a perfect 315x3 squat in the commercial gym I trained at today.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
Two weeks ago, 97.5X3 snatch, 110X3 C&J.
Scroll down this page for video.
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_senior/ol_world_record_assault?id=2519035&pageNo=5

Those snatches are one of the most impressive things that I’ve seen posted in this thread so far, in my opinion of course!!

Your speed under the bar is really, really good. I’m pretty jealous that your snatch is so rock solid and that I’m no where even close to it.[/quote]

Thank you. It took many many years to get to that point. I think its the things we can’t do well ourselves that are the most impressive, for example me watching you do 6 deadlifts with a weight I am qualified to roll across the platform, or pushmepullme easily squatting my lifetime best. (pushmepullme–you are good for quite a bit more on that squat. It looks like stability is going to be the limiting factor.)

335 Box Squat today. Finally hit 2x bodyweight.

[quote]skidmark wrote:
The important thing for me is to build a psychology of success and attaining a PR each week does that. [/quote]

I hear ya on that psychology of success thing. I wish it worked on me. missing maxes takes its toll mentally for sure. And I would love to counteract that with a proud rep or set PR. But its still pretty ho hum.

c.

[quote]TWP wrote:
C Do you not have indicators? I know if my GM rep max is up then my DL will be better off the floor. Personally, if my front squat is better…well, my front squat is better and it doesn’t mean crap for my power squat.

Either way, I love the idea. If all of my PRs were single reps I would have maybe 2 a year in the powerlifts, and I’m way too ADD for that. Guess that is why I have used the westside for a while…I love having a new pr in band/weight releaser/2 chain/2 board bench maxes. ;-)[/quote]

I don’t need indicators. Or maybe I don’t trust them. I either make the lift or I don’t.

And records that aren’t from an all out, maxed out lift, don’t matter much for me. I just call that a good training day.

A PR on a dead, squat or bench, even if its once a year, I call that success.

c.

[quote]c. wrote:
skidmark wrote:
The important thing for me is to build a psychology of success and attaining a PR each week does that.

I hear ya on that psychology of success thing. I wish it worked on me. missing maxes takes its toll mentally for sure. And I would love to counteract that with a proud rep or set PR. But its still pretty ho hum.

c.
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That’s why I track PRs on assistance and supplemental lifts. They do act as indicators and build confidence about the main lifts. If I can triple a weight then I’m fairly certain I can max at 15-30 pounds higher with little problem. If I can triple a weight for three sets I may be good for 50-60 lbs on a max single. The rep stuff can tell you where you’re at without taxing you as much as constantly testing your maxes.

If you can’t get motivated about the sub-max work, then I think you’re missing the point of it. Meat himself has said that limit singles don’t build strength, they merely test it. They may teach you to strain and develop the “never give up” mentality, but they don’t develop strength unless they are repeated which, by definition, they can’t be. You have to have the rep and sub-max work to

  1. work technique under conditions of fatigue
  2. develop muscle tissue
  3. consequently develop more usable strength for the main lift.

That’s my opinion, anyway.

If you like working only the main lifts, then the Sheiko set of routines may be a good fit for your psychology…

PR’d with a 135 kg box squat for a single today :). 140 wouldn’t budge though. Box height = 2 inches below parallell.

Also went from 3 x 12 reps with 30 kg to 3 x 15 on the 45 degree back extension.

I’ve decided that in my next comp. i’m going to pull conventional. I’ve always pulled sumo and have been pretty good at it. But i think to really be your best you need to get good at both. anyway, i started a minicycle four weeks ago where i started pulling from an elvation of knee level and each week i dropped the elevation.

I kept the reps high even on my last set so i can work my form. each week i finished with a rep set with 585lbs. Tonight I pulled from the floor for the first time. My goal for tonight was to pull 585 x 4. the first three were pretty fast and the last slowed a bit. I feel pretty good about them but it’s going to take some time to make it second nature. I’ll call this a baseline rep PR for conventional deads.

christopher drummond
team Staley sponsored athlete

I’ve got 2 PR’s the last 2 weeks I’ve pulled.

Here is 315x7 which is a PR by 1 rep, and 365x1.
My goal is 405 by Christmas.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

I kept the reps high even on my last set so i can work my form. each week i finished with a rep set with 585lbs. Tonight I pulled from the floor for the first time. My goal for tonight was to pull 585 x 4. the first three were pretty fast and the last slowed a bit. I feel pretty good about them but it’s going to take some time to make it second nature. I’ll call this a baseline rep PR for conventional deads.

christopher drummond
team Staley sponsored athlete[/quote]

I don’t know how you can take your time between reps. I’d never get the second rep if I did that.

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:

I kept the reps high even on my last set so i can work my form. each week i finished with a rep set with 585lbs. Tonight I pulled from the floor for the first time. My goal for tonight was to pull 585 x 4. the first three were pretty fast and the last slowed a bit. I feel pretty good about them but it’s going to take some time to make it second nature. I’ll call this a baseline rep PR for conventional deads.

christopher drummond
team Staley sponsored athlete

I don’t know how you can take your time between reps. I’d never get the second rep if I did that.[/quote]

that is basically why i do it. it makes the movement harder becuase you don’t have the rebound affect when you do touch and go. also, whenever i do touch and go, my form goes to shit. if you set up after every rep your form will be better and you are doing more work.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
I’ve decided that in my next comp. i’m going to pull conventional. I’ve always pulled sumo and have been pretty good at it. But i think to really be your best you need to get good at both. anyway, i started a minicycle four weeks ago where i started pulling from an elvation of knee level and each week i dropped the elevation.

I kept the reps high even on my last set so i can work my form. each week i finished with a rep set with 585lbs. Tonight I pulled from the floor for the first time. My goal for tonight was to pull 585 x 4. the first three were pretty fast and the last slowed a bit. I feel pretty good about them but it’s going to take some time to make it second nature. I’ll call this a baseline rep PR for conventional deads.

christopher drummond
team Staley sponsored athlete[/quote]

Holy shit man, is that a double overhand grip you’re using?

[quote]MikiB wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
I’ve decided that in my next comp. i’m going to pull conventional. I’ve always pulled sumo and have been pretty good at it. But i think to really be your best you need to get good at both. anyway, i started a minicycle four weeks ago where i started pulling from an elvation of knee level and each week i dropped the elevation.

I kept the reps high even on my last set so i can work my form. each week i finished with a rep set with 585lbs. Tonight I pulled from the floor for the first time. My goal for tonight was to pull 585 x 4. the first three were pretty fast and the last slowed a bit. I feel pretty good about them but it’s going to take some time to make it second nature. I’ll call this a baseline rep PR for conventional deads.

christopher drummond
team Staley sponsored athlete

Holy shit man, is that a double overhand grip you’re using?

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nah… just your basic mixed grip. with my shreklike fingers i need all the help i can get.

SO i decided to finally try out those wraps and belt I bought a while ago on squat day.

135x10
225x10
275x10
WRAPS BELT
365x12 lol wtf?
405x6 ???

Got some good carryover. I’ve set a goal to do 495x1 with wraps and belt.

Love this thread.

Here’s mine from this June. Somehow have to try and top this next year…

David

[quote]MikiB wrote:
SO i decided to finally try out those wraps and belt I bought a while ago on squat day.

135x10
225x10
275x10
WRAPS BELT
365x12 lol wtf?
405x6 ???

Got some good carryover. I’ve set a goal to do 495x1 with wraps and belt.[/quote]

I’m getting good carryover from your avatar…

2.5 Board Height Pin Press
265x5,4,4 (PR reps +2)