Hmmmmm I wonder if this might just not be the right enviroment for someone who can’t take a little internet hazing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dear lord, there are women on this site with bigger balls than some of the “men” in this thread.
Whining involves complaining about a situation while offering no alternatives or solutions to a perceived problem, essentially doing nothing about it. Whining is NOT discussing an article or debating a topic.
Whining is NOT pointing out that an author of an article did the very activity they are now writing an article against and the act of doing that activity is more than likely the very reason they have seen the success they have to the degree they have physically.
Whining is making a thread crying about how your feelings got hurt. Whining is typing, “I agree” in favor of that thread because someone called you out about your “intensity” in the gym while discussing Brittany Spears’ ab workout. Whining is to then throw a hissy fit and make an all new thread about talking in the gym, realizing that most people on this site are IN FAVOR of not randomly talking about shit in the gym, and then backing down on your original stance (pussy).
Whining is trying to turn this site into some watered down version of what it was to begin with by getting rid of any sign of its name-sake.
Quit crying.[/quote]
Great Post. I totally agree.
[quote]bkgallo wrote:
If anybody has young children then they know what I’m talking about when I hear my own whine on and on because they didn’t get the toy they wanted at the store. That is the kind of whining I’m talking about.
And whether that be writing post after post of saying some article should not have been printed, or repeatedly arguing that some definition was unclear or incorrect, or that continuing to say skinny-ass newbies need to stop posting such dumbass questions (and the reverse of repeatedly asking how anybody could say such things) WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING NEW OR DIFFERENT is, to me, plain old whining.
I can understand how newbies can fall into that crap, though I don’t agree with it. But lately I’m seeing more often that regular, long-time members are also falling into that crap. Good God, are these T-free newbies starting to suck the T out of everyone else through some internet osmosis?[/quote]
Heh, I have to…
We heard you the first time… stop whining already!
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I feel the same amount of disdain for the weak, pathetic, immature, give me instant gratification crowd on this site as i do in real life. This isn’t an internet issue. It’s life. People just fuckin sook when they don’t hear what they want to hear. Boo fuckin hoo.
What do you do in the real world when idiot strangers argue and complain about every little thing? Stand there and debate with them, or just turn your back, shake your head and go find your own people and have a laugh? Deal with it…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dear lord, there are women on this site with bigger balls than some of the “men” in this thread.
Whining involves complaining about a situation while offering no alternatives or solutions to a perceived problem, essentially doing nothing about it. Whining is NOT discussing an article or debating a topic.
Whining is NOT pointing out that an author of an article did the very activity they are now writing an article against and the act of doing that activity is more than likely the very reason they have seen the success they have to the degree they have physically.
Whining is making a thread crying about how your feelings got hurt. Whining is typing, “I agree” in favor of that thread because someone called you out about your “intensity” in the gym while discussing Brittany Spears’ ab workout. Whining is to then throw a hissy fit and make an all new thread about talking in the gym, realizing that most people on this site are IN FAVOR of not randomly talking about shit in the gym, and then backing down on your original stance (pussy).
Whining is trying to turn this site into some watered down version of what it was to begin with by getting rid of any sign of its name-sake.
Quit crying.[/quote]
LOL!!!
Dude!!!
It doesn’t take balls to be an Internet Forum tough guy! It takes balls to be a tough guy in real life, and in real life I am not afraid to break my hand on someone’e face, but then again I am not a doctor and don’t need my hands for my career.
What takes balls on the internet is to man up and admit your wrong, or apologize for something, or step up when called out. Which is something I seem to have no problem doing time and time again:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1295623
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1303221
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1215336
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1305750
And in case you did not realize it, me discussing Britney Spears ab routine & whether we will do abs with my wife on the way out of the gym, IS ABOUT WORKING OUT AND even you seem to agree there is nothing wrong with talking in the gym, ESPECIALLY about working out:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1303221
But then again, when you saw that people agreed with me, that it is possible to talk at the gym and still remain focused, you changed your tune and agreed as well. Totally different from your stance here:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1298340
(and your calling me a pussy?)
And if you dont agree that Britney Spears ab workout is something my wife should talk with me about and is not related to the gym, maybe you should read this article written by Chad Waterbury:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1305014
Now, you seem to be the ONLY ONE that can look at the photos in my profile and conclude it is obvious from my progress AFTER 9 WEEKS of working out, that I lack focus in the gym and I am not serious.
Anyone else want to say that the pics in my profile after 9 weeks make it obvious I lack focus and don’t train hard???
Your right, I did whine in this thread and I apologize to you and the other people that read it. I probably should not have done that.
Now can we please squash this shit and agree to disagree? I WON’T WHINE ANYMORE! Lets just squash it!
[quote]cvb wrote:
Great Post. I totally agree.
[/quote]
What a suck ass. Ever have a thought of your own, or do you just agree all the time? Do you even know what your agreeing to?
Do you even know what he is talking about?
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
cvb wrote:
Great Post. I totally agree.
What a suck ass. Ever have a thought of your own, or do you just agree all the time? Do you even know what your agreeing to?
Do you even know what he is talking about?
[/quote]
I agree that cvb agrees a lot. But I like agreeable people. Don’t you agree?
Psst, isn’t that a vulnerable place to be wearing it?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Psst, isn’t that a vulnerable place to be wearing it?[/quote]
will it be gotten?
[quote]Jillybop wrote:
Here was my first post to the article:
I understand that this article is not meant for me - my goals are different, as are most of the women on this site, I’m guessing. I did take away some interesting points, like targeting the right areas and avoiding too much ab work. I do have several questions and points to make.
The pictures of Jamie and Jessica show relatively lean girls with hardly any upper body muscle mass. They look “hawt” thanks to their parents and the luck of the draw. I don’t believe any training program is going to turn an ordinary girl into one of them. Do you have any client success stories with this program?
I also don’t believe they are 14% bodyfat - shouldn’t they have some sort of muscular definition at that level of leanness? Granted there isn’t much muscle to begin with, but I don’t see any definition in their pics.
Not to nitpick, but I constantly see women underestimating bf% and would love to see some good examples of different percentages.
How can any woman on a calorie restricted diet build any appreciable muscle mass? Maybe some newbie gains, but enough to actually look like “too much”?? The few women I’ve seen with legs that are truly large with muscle have busted their butts with heavy lifting for years to get that way (and are damn proud of it - rightfully so). Most women whose legs are too big have too much fat on them.
I thought that when trying to lose fat it was best to lift with low reps and heavy weight to help keep the muscle you have. Again, operating at a calorie deficit, this would encourage the body to keep the muscle and lose the fat. Why these very high rep schemes?
As a woman who has transformed her physique over the last 2 years using all of the great information found here like lifting heavy and eating clean, I simply do not share the same experiences discussed in the article. All the great compound lifts have done amazing things for my shape.
The enjoyment I get from lifting heavy and making progress in the gym is equal to or greater than the satisfaction I get from being able to wear a pair of daisy duke shorts.
As a trainer with a direct influence on the clients you train and an indirect influence on the larger community with the articles you write, perhaps you should reconsider the message you are sending out about women and female body image. It seems to me that you are buying into and perpetuating the false, unattainable Hollywood image and encouraging your clients to do the same.
Why not encourage women to build their entire body and get stronger? They certainly don’t need to take it beyond whatever level they personally prefer - but the health benefits and confidence that comes from making gains in the gym should not be glossed over. I suspect many women don’t even realize this, what a wonderful thing to be able to teach.
It actually makes me a little sad to read this article here. This is one place where women can come together to talk training and not have to feel weird for wanting to build our bodies and get strong. Not all the guys get it, but a lot of them do.
Finally, just maybe this could have been one article where there wasn’t a scantily clad, suggestively posed bimbo in the first few paragraphs. There actually are great pictures of athletic, attractive women that don’t fall in the cheese-porn category and an article meant for women would have been a nice place to put one.
I stand by what I wrote. I acknowledged the article wasn’t for me, made some observations and asked some questions (that weren’t answered).
I am done.
[/quote]
I have reviewed the proceeding post carefully and can safely say it contained no whine. As such, the author has presented valid points and poignant questions to the author of the original article, one Chad Waterbury.
Having done so, and having not received a response from the author, the poster, Jillybop, has proven once again that intelligent, well thought out posts have absolutely no place on this site.
Please resume your posts of “you suck,” “I’d hit it,” and “TSB.”
Thank you.
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dear lord, there are women on this site with bigger balls than some of the “men” in this thread.
Whining involves complaining about a situation while offering no alternatives or solutions to a perceived problem, essentially doing nothing about it. Whining is NOT discussing an article or debating a topic.
Whining is NOT pointing out that an author of an article did the very activity they are now writing an article against and the act of doing that activity is more than likely the very reason they have seen the success they have to the degree they have physically.
Whining is making a thread crying about how your feelings got hurt. Whining is typing, “I agree” in favor of that thread because someone called you out about your “intensity” in the gym while discussing Brittany Spears’ ab workout. Whining is to then throw a hissy fit and make an all new thread about talking in the gym, realizing that most people on this site are IN FAVOR of not randomly talking about shit in the gym, and then backing down on your original stance (pussy).
Whining is trying to turn this site into some watered down version of what it was to begin with by getting rid of any sign of its name-sake.
Quit crying.
LOL!!!
Dude!!!
It doesn’t take balls to be an Internet Forum tough guy! It takes balls to be a tough guy in real life, and in real life I am not afraid to break my hand on someone’e face, but then again I am not a doctor and don’t need my hands for my career.
What takes balls on the internet is to man up and admit your wrong, or apologize for something, or step up when called out. Which is something I seem to have no problem doing time and time again:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1295623
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1303221
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1215336
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1305750
And in case you did not realize it, me discussing Britney Spears ab routine & whether we will do abs with my wife on the way out of the gym, IS ABOUT WORKING OUT AND even you seem to agree there is nothing wrong with talking in the gym, ESPECIALLY about working out:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1303221
But then again, when you saw that people agreed with me, that it is possible to talk at the gym and still remain focused, you changed your tune and agreed as well. Totally different from your stance here:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1298340
(and your calling me a pussy?)
And if you dont agree that Britney Spears ab workout is something my wife should talk with me about and is not related to the gym, maybe you should read this article written by Chad Waterbury:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1305014
Now, you seem to be the ONLY ONE that can look at the photos in my profile and conclude it is obvious from my progress AFTER 9 WEEKS of working out, that I lack focus in the gym and I am not serious.
Anyone else want to say that the pics in my profile after 9 weeks make it obvious I lack focus and don’t train hard???
Your right, I did whine in this thread and I apologize to you and the other people that read it. I probably should not have done that.
Now can we please squash this shit and agree to disagree? I WON’T WHINE ANYMORE! Lets just squash it! [/quote]
You really don’t have to whine anymore, do you? I mean, you’ve done enough of it for several life times on this board and you haven’t even been here for very long.
So far, we know that anytime someone confronts you, we get an explosion that includes your entire life story and several follow up “life drama” backstories to fill in the gaps. You sound like you need Oprah.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You sound like you need Oprah.[/quote]
So, do you think Oprah would have me on?
[quote]rbnlaw wrote:
I have reviewed the proceeding post carefully and can safely say it contained no whine. As such, the author has presented valid points and poignant questions to the author of the original article, one Chad Waterbury.
Having done so, and having not received a response from the author, the poster, Jillybop, has proven once again that intelligent, well thought out posts have absolutely no place on this site.
[/quote]
well, most of the t-mag writer’s egos are considerably larger than their muscle mass…
which has led to the site becoming mostly about a clique of arrogant self-absorbed know-it-all ‘experts’ and their legion of follower who would rather be burned alive than have to thinking for themselves…
what ever you do, don’t ever question one of the demi-god t-mag writers or you’ll be stoned to death (or, even worse, called a whinner) by the t-sheeple…
[quote]rbnlaw wrote:
I have reviewed the proceeding post carefully and can safely say it contained no whine. As such, the author has presented valid points and poignant questions to the author of the original article, one Chad Waterbury.
Having done so, and having not received a response from the author, the poster, Jillybop, has proven once again that intelligent, well thought out posts have absolutely no place on this site.
Please resume your posts of “you suck,” “I’d hit it,” and “TSB.”
Thank you.[/quote]
Thank you
[quote]vroom wrote:
Heh, I have to…
We heard you the first time… stop whining already![/quote]
sniff But you’re not telling me what I want to hear! I need nice things said to me so my self-esteem gets raised a few notches. sniff sniff
FUCK. I hate the internet. Why the hell am I working in IT?
[quote]rbnlaw wrote:
I have reviewed the proceeding post carefully and can safely say it contained no whine. As such, the author has presented valid points and poignant questions to the author of the original article, one Chad Waterbury.
[/quote]
I absolutely agree regarding Jillybop’s first post. It’s all the subsequent ones that ended up sounding like a whining newbie who kept posting pretty much the same thing simply because she did not get what she wanted – an answer from Chad. Seriously, does anybody here really want to sound like some of the losers who keep asking Professor X the same fucking question over and over because they don’t get the answer they want from him?
[quote]bkgallo wrote:
I absolutely agree regarding Jillybop’s first post. It’s all the subsequent ones that ended up sounding like a whining newbie who kept posting pretty much the same thing simply because she did not get what she wanted – an answer from Chad. Seriously, does anybody here really want to sound like some of the losers who keep asking Professor X the same fucking question over and over because they don’t get the answer they want from him?[/quote]
What posts are you talking about???
[quote]Jillybop wrote:
rbnlaw wrote:
I have reviewed the proceeding post carefully and can safely say it contained no whine. As such, the author has presented valid points and poignant questions to the author of the original article, one Chad Waterbury.
Having done so, and having not received a response from the author, the poster, Jillybop, has proven once again that intelligent, well thought out posts have absolutely no place on this site.
Please resume your posts of “you suck,” “I’d hit it,” and “TSB.”
Thank you.
Thank you[/quote]
Jillybob? I’d hit it!
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Jillybob? I’d hit it![/quote]
Jillybob or Jillybop? Freudian slip maybe? Is there something you want to tell us Zap?