To Hell with Crossfit!

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[quote]usaffirefighter wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
njworkoutguy wrote:
I agree, its even worse in the military where the craze is really taking over…I’m not even sure why, I’m a hell of alot more confident in the ability of someone who can dead lift and squat massive amounts of weight, to pull my unconscious body out of a burning vehicle and bring me to safety…but I guess I’m wrong.

Military brats aren’t the smartest guys around.

Look at the standard military training regimen. It sucks. 50 years behind the times. But they’ll happily use it for another 50.

Just because the military thinks running/pushups/situps are the pinnacle of fitness doesn’t mean everybody in the military buys into it. Personally I couldn’t care less how fit the Air Force thinks I am.

And perhaps judging an entire cross section of our society on a couple bad apples you’ve experienced isn’t quite fair?? Then again I probably wouldn’t know, since I’m apparently not very smart…
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Nevermind, you’re right and I was wrong.

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Straight from the CrossFit website.

World-Class Fitness in 100 Words:

Eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat. Practice and train major lifts: Deadlift, clean, squat, presses, C&J, and snatch.

Similarly, master the basics of gymnastics: pull-ups, dips, rope climb, push-ups, sit-ups, presses to handstand, pirouettes, flips, splits, and holds. Bike, run, swim, row, etc, hard and fast.

Five or six days per week mix these elements in as many combinations and patterns as creativity will allow. Routine is the enemy. Keep workouts short and intense. Regularly learn and play new sports.

Thats what CrossFit is, will it put on muscle? Absolutely. More than a body building routine? Probably not.

Will a bodybuilding routine make you fit? Absolutely. More than a CrossFit? Probably so.

Douche behavior is douche behavior, 10 people could EASILY collectively purchase the required equipment for a CrossFit workout in a private location. Crossfit is an excellent tool for LEO/Military (which I am). Will I switch from CrossFit to a more size oriented regimen once I am out of the military? Yes.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Shammy wrote:

Thats what CrossFit is, will it put on muscle? Absolutely.

That’s why I see all of those crossfitters walking around with huge traps, chests, shoulders and thighs…No…wait…you don’t see that except on a few rare individuals who say they train crossfit.

It’s actually quite surprising you don’t see more really large muscled crossfitters. one would think that all that jumping around and not resting between whatever weird ass sets that they’re doing would add thick slabs of muscle…No…wait…I guess it wouldn’t.

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Just on the main www.crossfit.com website there are pictures of multiple CrossFit certification attendees, a good number seem pretty muscular.

http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/BrooklynMarinaCerts081019.html
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/VBFGBPPBanner.html
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/EastsideTorontoGroups081011.html

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My personal results and those of others who train CrossFit would disagree that you can’t improve in two seemingly unrelated pathways of fitness.

CrossFit will not take ANY elite athlete and make him/her better at their specific event. That isn’t the goal of CrossFit.

If you want increased work capacity then go hit up CrossFit. If not shut the hell up about stuff you blatantly have no business attacking because you have proven you know absolutely nothing about it.

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I think the pictures go to show that just like any other type of exercise method ~ you’ll have a few people that eat - train - rest effectively enough to outpace the rest. With a large portion looking like the average gym attendee.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Logically, how can you claim to both build muscle and also increase your 800 meter run time? Unless you were an out of shape fat tub of lard to begin with.

Those who believe that you can train for diametrically opposed events at the same time and improve in both have been drinking the crossfit koolaide. Is that what you did? Are you a starry eyed follower of the crossfit cult?

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Don’t be retarded. You can do both without being a fatass to start. It’s a matter of intelligent programming and skill training.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
And people wonder how folks get so worked up about religion![/quote]

That’s what this is: a religious discussion. The skinny little crossfitters have theirs, the skinny little triathletes have theirs, and bodybuilders have theirs. Seeing as this is a bodybuilding website, I’m not quite sure why the crossfitters are on here trying to convert the rest of us.

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To me crossfit would be good for being in very good general health and fitness. It seems like it could be used to help lose body fat. I have a friend who is a crossfitter who acts like he could get me huge with his crossfit workouts, somehow I’m bigger than him, go figure.

I think crossfit could also be really good for girls since it would put on a little muscle and give them a high intensity workout to burn fat. Overall crossfit seems to try to incorporate everything making you great at nothing but pretty decent at a lot of stuff

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A great interview done with Greg Everett about the misconceptions of CrossFit and what it is and isn’t there for.

http://www.cathletics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41405#post41405

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[quote]Shammy wrote:
My personal results and those of others who train CrossFit would disagree that you can’t improve in two seemingly unrelated pathways of fitness.

CrossFit will not take ANY elite athlete and make him/her better at their specific event. That isn’t the goal of CrossFit.

If you want increased work capacity then go hit up CrossFit. If not shut the hell up about stuff you blatantly have no business attacking because you have proven you know absolutely nothing about it.[/quote]

If you’re planning on going to BUD/S (and I assume you still are), I’d be doing whatever it took to crank out a sub-9 minute 1.5 mile boot run, 40 straight reps of pull ups, 100 push ups, and 100 sit ups in 2 minutes, and about a 7:30 swim. I fail to see how CrossFit is going to improve your survival swim stroke or the other things I mentioned, but if it does, knock yourself the hell out. I’d also get good - real good - at climbing ropes, if I were you.

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Shammy wrote:
My personal results and those of others who train CrossFit would disagree that you can’t improve in two seemingly unrelated pathways of fitness.

CrossFit will not take ANY elite athlete and make him/her better at their specific event. That isn’t the goal of CrossFit.

If you want increased work capacity then go hit up CrossFit. If not shut the hell up about stuff you blatantly have no business attacking because you have proven you know absolutely nothing about it.

If you’re planning on going to BUD/S (and I assume you still are), I’d be doing whatever it took to crank out a sub-9 minute 1.5 mile boot run, 40 straight reps of pull ups, 100 push ups, and 100 sit ups in 2 minutes, and about a 7:30 swim. I fail to see how CrossFit is going to improve your survival swim stroke or the other things I mentioned, but if it does, knock yourself the hell out. I’d also get good - real good - at climbing ropes, if I were you.[/quote]

Absolutely I do stuff to prepare for the screening test for BUD/S and BUD/S itself, namely its a blend of CrossFit, the SEALs CrossFit WOD (at navyseals.com), and Dan John’s programming.

I am only defending CrossFit because it introduced me to so many good things (this site, proper lift execution, the olympic lifts, etc.).

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Shammy wrote:
My personal results and those of others who train CrossFit would disagree that you can’t improve in two seemingly unrelated pathways of fitness.

CrossFit will not take ANY elite athlete and make him/her better at their specific event. That isn’t the goal of CrossFit.

If you want increased work capacity then go hit up CrossFit. If not shut the hell up about stuff you blatantly have no business attacking because you have proven you know absolutely nothing about it.

Spoken like a sucker who has taken a huge drink of the crossfit koolaide. Congrats man. Did you also check your nuts at the door too, or just your common sense?

Everyone who knows anything about building muscle,(not you)knows that the best way to build more muscle is to embark on a systematic program of progressive resistance exercise. Anyone who knows anything about track knows that you focus your attention differently to get better at a specific running event.

People who don’t know a fucking thing (that would be you, your “coach” and the others) think that if you jump around and act like one of Jerry’s kids, you are a “superior athlete.”

Here’s some advice for you junior, why don’t you get the fuck off the T Nation forum where we really know how to build muscle and get back to the la la land crossfit site. I heard they’re serving some delicious grape koolaid on Wednesday.

SUCKER.
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You’re stupid as fuck.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:

You’re stupid as fuck.

I get it, you’re a message board stalker. You signed on to T-Nation to do what? One more off topic post by you. You really are a worthless piece of shit little boss. But then you’ve probably been told that all your life so…

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Actually you don’t get it. When you finally do…we will spared of your overbearing know-it-all bravado…I bet you beat your wife…boyfriend…and your kids hate you.

Anyways…“message board stalker”…lol…sad. The first post you made to this thread is “crossfitters are a special kind of idiot.” To generalize like that proves you know shit.

Crossfit is not a means to an end. You’re arguing with people who have already admitted to that. Any fool with a sliver of sense can figure out that if your GOAL is to gain mass for bodybuilding,powerlifting or whatever,Crossfit is not the path…a no brainer.

Now if your GOAL is muscular endurance and GPP for fighting or for sport or occupation(military,etc.),go for it. Everybody should know that training specifically for your sport is king to ANY workout program anyways. Like any workout program or ideology…you take what is useful for that individual. No big deal,right?

Now as for gaining mass…Nobody is gaining “slabs” of muscle,but I’m sure there is some SMALL truth to that. Seriously though, how can you argue that point with so many different factors pertaining to an individual who does Crossfit??

There are many valid disagreements against Crossfit. Or more specifically against those who ARE claiming it to be something its not,but you’re too busy “drinking your own piss” to see that.

You should stick to PWI. were its easier to attack and argue with bullshit…its better suited for you.

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Wow, so this is definitely the last rant I post on here. This really escalated quickly! Brick killed a guy!!!

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[quote]usaffirefighter wrote:
Wow, so this is definitely the last rant I post on here. This really escalated quickly! Brick killed a guy!!!

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Lol,wasn’t your rant about ONE specific group of Crossfit people’s behavior???