[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
usaffirefighter wrote:
Wow, so this is definitely the last rant I post on here. This really escalated quickly! Brick killed a guy!!!
Lol,wasn’t your rant about ONE specific group of Crossfit people’s behavior???[/quote]
Yeah it was. Probably should have made that a bit more clear…
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
buffalokilla wrote:
Glassman’s a dick.
Yea…that’s what I’ve heard. He acts like a dictator and thinks crossfit is the be all and end all of fitness. And no one better disagree with him or he goes into a rage. [/quote]
Thats what Ive heard too. Ive talked to one of his trainners at my gym and thats one thing that drives me nut is the fact they think that crossfit is the only type of training that should be done. I actually got the trainer to admit my routine right now is basiclly the same thing. He said this right infront of his trainee.
Just from talking and watching these crossfit people I can tell that Glassman has also stole alot of his stuff from Escalating Density Training (EDT), general physical prepartion, and other forms of old school workouts. The only diffrence is he was smart to slap on a name and charge $130 a month.
I will admit that it is a good work out, if you have $130 + to spend on training. Personlly Ill stick with what I do now. I dont like lifting light unless Im in a leaning out phase. Crossfit is more for getting lean quick while keeping or increasing your strength in certin lifts. All I wish is that these Crossfit people would check there ego and relize that their form of training isnt always the best. There is alot of good programs out there that are amazing and work very well if not better. EDT being one of those. Along with alot of Christian Thibaudeau’s work.
Thats how I feel about Crossfit. To hell with paying someone $130 a month to do what Im already doing and already know.
[quote]usaffirefighter wrote:
Wow, so this is definitely the last rant I post on here. This really escalated quickly! Brick killed a guy!!!
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Yeah I saw that! Brick killed a guy! Did he throw a trident?
[quote]Crossfit1 wrote:
Robert
That’s the point, I/we don’t won’t to do a structured deadlift routine, I am well aware that if I specialized that I would lift more!!!
And to say that when you were at school you ran a 5.30min mile is a redundant statement, I am talking about today.
I was giving an overview of the broad ability that the crossfit methodology can give a committed individual, just as a specific bodybuilding routine will give a committed individual muscular size.
“and I doubt we will ever see highly successful bodybuilders train by Crossfit principles.”
And the above Robert, is to be frank, obvious.
I train for the whole spectrum of athletic abilities, so I will never be huge/super strong or a super quick marathon runner, but the crossfit methodology allows us to do it all at any given time.
Also I do not take it as a personel attack even though the title of the thread would lead one to think otherwise.
It seems that the rest of the fitness world has a problem with crossfit not the other way round?
I think that we all should just find what we like and that should be the end of it. But the main topic was about idiots who impede others training time, and that is unacceptable no matter what side of the training fence you are on, agreed?
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I was on vacation, so it took me a while. The reason I mentioned my mile time in middle school is because I just went through military testing (we have a weird way of doing this stuff, don’t ask) and I still run a sub 6 minute mile, still without training. I’m just saying that, being genetically predisposed to endurance more than speed, I can easily match your crossfit-trained mile times with relative ease. Many people I played soccer with were not naturals for endurance work, but since I stopped playing the sport they beat my times easily now.
I can see how Crossfit would appeal to someone who has a bit of “exercise ADD”. Personally, I prefer throwing in “free” workouts when I need downtime, doing bodyweight exercises and high rep isolation work just for the fun of it. However, I firmly believe that a clear progression is necessary for success, regardless of the goal. I guess I have a slight problem with the jack of all trades, master of none mentality that Crossfit seems to instill in people.
It’s really nice to be able to discuss this with people who don’t resort to name calling and calling the respective systems founders assholes, by the way (if I remember correctly you did call Weider an ass, but it was a provoked, factful statement, which I have no problem with).
In all fairness to Crossfit, while it isn’t the most effective program for developing any one quality, it is a hell of a lot better than the plethora of “do nothing” programs that pass for training in the mainstream fitness world.
Bosu BS?
Kickboxing for fat housewives?
Swiss Ball Hijinks?
Not to mention yoga, pilates and all that calisthenics crap that women love to do.
See, there is a lot of garbage out there that’s far worse than Crossfit. I pounded the hell out of cross-training in another thread, but I can’t give too much shit to a philosophy that endorses meat eating, tells people to limit starches, and advocates proficiency with the basic lifts.
If I could kick out all the swiss ball loving idiot trainers at my gym and replace them with CF fanboys, I’d do it in a heartbeat.
cross fit is nothing new, just a dressed up giant sets…that’s all.
It’s amazing those people the most against it seem to know nothing about it.