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[quote]300andabove wrote:
Bulking is at the very least a 5 to 10 year long commitment for any real solid muscle gain. Like im at it over 7 years now and will not stop till i hit 300 which should take another 3-4 years. [/quote]

I have a problem with this statement, 5-10 years? I don’t think it takes that long… I would say bulking for a good 6-12 months is good for some gains, then cut for 3-6months and back to bulk. Unless your consistantly gaining and don’t mind the loss of definition, I mean this is a body-building forum, so while being big and huge is super important, retaining some definition is important as well, not saying keep your abs year round, just saying you don’t have to lose you abs for 5-10years to make solid gains.

You don’t have any stats in your profile 300, how tall are you?

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[quote]skohcl wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Bulking is at the very least a 5 to 10 year long commitment for any real solid muscle gain. Like im at it over 7 years now and will not stop till i hit 300 which should take another 3-4 years.

I have a problem with this statement, 5-10 years? I don’t think it takes that long… I would say bulking for a good 6-12 months is good for some gains, then cut for 3-6months and back to bulk. Unless your consistantly gaining and don’t mind the loss of definition, I mean this is a body-building forum, so while being big and huge is super important, retaining some definition is important as well, not saying keep your abs year round, just saying you don’t have to lose you abs for 5-10years to make solid gains.

You don’t have any stats in your profile 300, how tall are you?[/quote]

If you are dieting down every 6 months you will NOT be making very much progress. Yes, this is a process that takes years if the goal is SIGNIFICANT progress. If your goal is to only add 5lbs, you can do whatever the hell you want to.

This is a bodybuilding forum yet way too many of you with the smallest goals possible consider that activity the same as what we are discussing.

If your goal is to have arms anywhere near 18" or bigger, there needs to be significant time (in the range of 3-4 years) spent only focusing on size and strength.

I think many of you have been confused by certain authors who seem to think everyone is a “hardgainer” and that no one can even get to that size anyway.

While you are concerned about his “5-10 years” statement (which would actually be the case often if the goal is to look anything like the guys reaching heavyweight status in NPC or the like), you are equally as turned around if you think it only takes 6 months to build enough muscle mass to warrant dieting down significantly.

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[quote]skohcl wrote:

I have a problem with this statement, 5-10 years? I don’t think it takes that long… I would say bulking for a good 6-12 months is good for some gains, then cut for 3-6months and back to bulk. Unless your consistantly gaining and don’t mind the loss of definition, I mean this is a body-building forum, so while being big and huge is super important, retaining some definition is important as well, not saying keep your abs year round, just saying you don’t have to lose you abs for 5-10years to make solid gains.

You don’t have any stats in your profile 300, how tall are you?[/quote]

It is ok to take issue with it :slight_smile:

Whenever i inform anyone who wishes to rach my weight how long it takes, they usually go green----white----back to green — take back up yoga !

6-12 months THEN diet for 6…that would a pretty pointless venture in my mind.

Look when you cut, your GUARENTEED to lose some muscle mass when dieting, as much help as BCAA’s now are you will STILL lose muscle… so why put your body through that process unless you have enough to spare to lose…

DO you know ANYONE that has muscle than they can afford to lose ??

I didn’t think so :slight_smile:

Look if your the kinda guy that loves his abz in the summer time to impress the ladies, thats cool. Thats your deal, have fun with it… but i think you have bulking confused with “all you can eat buffets”

I put on about 2-4% bodyfat every year i would think… but i get about 15-20 lbs of muscle with that too … ill take that bodyfat anyday if i can that muscle gain !
People consider me “HHUUGGGEEEE” and im only 6ft 1" and 268lbs and i would think somewhere i AM guessing here 20-25% bodyfat… but no one says im “fat” 25% bodyfat gets lost on my frame my muscle mass dominates it its a different story for your 150lb skinny fat 18% person… all they have to hide the fat is skin and BONES.

At the end of the day, i want to get to 300lbs before i even consider cutting…i would hope to be left in the region of 220-240lbs when dieted to 3-4% thats how much you will need to be left with that !

I dont know how cutting got such a name that you need 6 months to do it…i mean just eat less do more cardio… it aint fucking rocket science.

Bulking is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR harder than cutting, cutting would be a fucking pleasure now… my life consists of eating…eating…eating…eating…eating… (did i mention eating?) eating THIS much every day is fucking annoying sometimes, when i see a 150lb person complain he cant eat enough to grow i want to wring his neck :slight_smile:

SO basically HELL NO your strategy wont work, unless you want mediocre gains, just to keep your abz for the summer.
Lose your abz for 2-3 years bulk like hell, THEN cut and maybe you will get the beach attention you seem to want.

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The gentleman above me with the previous post, has summed it up FAR more eloquently than i did :slight_smile:

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For bulking I am someone who finds it hard to get in calories just due to amount, so I made a bar with very little taste (I find you can eat more tasteless food) that provides a huge calorie hit (and not just shitty sugar calories). It has to be eaten with milk handy to wash it down
If anyone wants to try my bulking bar here it is:

4 cups unflavoured protein
3 cups rolled oats
4 eggs
1 jar natural peanut butter (including all the oil that sits on top)
200ml whole milk
300g coconut oil

Mix all together with your hands. Smooth onto a very large tray with baking powder on it. Cook at 180C for about 15-20 minutes (when the edges start to brown). Leave to sit in the oven for 5 minutes. Take out and allow to cool for about 10-20 minutes. Cut up and store in fridge.

You may notice foam forming on top when cooking. Ignore that. You may also notice oil pooling in the tray around the mix. Let it cool long enough that the mix absorbs almost all the oil back in.

Not sure about exact calories, but I imagine rather high.

edit: I wish the islander instructor from my gym was on here to give tips. He was working out in the gym today at the same time as me, and he is absolutely huge. He was also easily one arm rowing more than I do both arms. Pretty embarrassing, but he is also a really nice helpful guy.

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Here is something from World 1187:

2 cups whole milk
4 TBSP Pbutter
60g Whey Protein Chocolate
3 raw eggs
2 bananas
5 oreos (Optional)

For the macro,micro wtf ever ye are heres the breakdown:

1906.3 Calories
138g Protein
167.5 Carbs
92.9 Fat

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I did leave a range you know? 6-12 and 3-6, you didn’t have to use the most extreme numbers in both cases. 12 month bulk with a 3 month diet isn’t that bad, but to each his own.

I’ve never read any biographies of any top bodybuilders, so I suppose I didn’t know how long it takes to get that huge.

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Seeing as this thread discusses everything about bulking I figure that this is the best place to ask…I’ve reached 211 lbs on my bulk so far but I’ve stopped gaining weight and the only way to add more food would probably be by using a food processor. I’ve never used one before but I figured that since I can’t spend all my days eating that a processor might help me reach my goal.

Started at…217lbs and 32%bf but I managed to drop to about 180 at 16%. After a while though, I started to feel really small and decided to start a bulk and I’ve added about 16lbs of muscle in over the summer but my weight stalled. My bf has gone up to 20% but so has my strength so I’m not to bothered by the fat. I want to eventually reach 240lbs at which point I’ll start at the velocity diet to get down to a lean 200lbs.

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OH hell yeah! I’ve been busy but I can’t believe I missed this thread. Count me firmly in the brotherhood of bulk!

I think what I really love about bulking is the sense of progress an purpose without end. If you’re trying to get lean you have a goal in mind and a certain point you cannot go past. Bulking though, you can always grow just a little bit more, or get just a little bit stringer - no final point in sight.

Anyway, today I pulled 545 for a PR and also ate 2 lbs of skirt steak, a gallon of whole milk, 8 enchiladas, 4 chicken burgers at mcdonalds, a pint of chocolate cookie dough with sprinkles (shut up, I like them), 6 mozzarella sticks, 3 beers, 2 tuna fish sandwiches, some potato salad, 2 BLTs, and 12 eggs.

Life is good.

I’m doing a westsideish lifting plan with whateverthefuck cardio on two other days. My diet plan is 2 lbs of red meat and a gallon of whole milk a day, other than that, eat carbs+protein+fat meals every 3 hours, and make them meals big!

Also 6’ 4" and 265 lbs. I’m eying the 300 lb mark.

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[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
OH hell yeah! I’ve been busy but I can’t believe I missed this thread. Count me firmly in the brotherhood of bulk!

I think what I really love about bulking is the sense of progress an purpose without end. If you’re trying to get lean you have a goal in mind and a certain point you cannot go past. Bulking though, you can always grow just a little bit more, or get just a little bit stringer - no final point in sight.

Anyway, today I pulled 545 for a PR and also ate 2 lbs of skirt steak, a gallon of whole milk, 8 enchiladas, 4 chicken burgers at mcdonalds, a pint of chocolate cookie dough with sprinkles (shut up, I like them), 6 mozzarella sticks, 3 beers, 2 tuna fish sandwiches, some potato salad, 2 BLTs, and 12 eggs.

Life is good.

I’m doing a westsideish lifting plan with whateverthefuck cardio on two other days. My diet plan is 2 lbs of red meat and a gallon of whole milk a day, other than that, eat carbs+protein+fat meals every 3 hours, and make them meals big!

Also 6’ 4" and 265 lbs. I’m eying the 300 lb mark.[/quote]

That’s ALOT of food. What is your current b.f?

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
That’s ALOT of food. What is your current b.f?[/quote]

It is, isn’t it? <–Echoing with pride

I haven’t had any BF measurement, but I wear size 36 pants and have to wear a belt to prevent any “wardrobe malfunctions.” No abs visible. Last weekend on a bet from a friend, I could fit myself lengthwise through a steering wheel cover, for what that’s worth.

I’m not big enough to compete yet, so I’m tossing BF by the wayside for now. That dosen’t mean I’m getting fat-as-all-holy-hell, just pursuing gains overall.

I think being 6+feet and doing 2 days of cardio (the “shitty ss 1 hour type”) keeps any fat in check.

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Count me in. Bulking now. I have gone from 167 lbs to 196 lbs since June and have gotten to point where

a) I am not gaining more on the current intake and
b) I need a kick in the ass to stop worrying about the fact that my pants are getting tight and love handles are developing … cutting thoughts keep entering my mind (god forbid!)

I partially ruptured my bicep around 2 months ago which have prevented me from going all out on pulling exercises but I am at the point now where heavy deadlifts are possible but where pulls ups and rows and biceps exercises ofcourse still have to be kept in the high rep range. Think my having to turn down intensity on big exercises like deads and pull ups partially account for the fat gain I have experienced.

I train DC style for pushing exercises and legs but stick to straight sets for pulling and bicep exercises until my arm has fully recovered.

Waist size has gone from 33.5 to 36.5 inches. Im 6 foot tall.

Intake up to now has looked like this:

Meal 1: 5 whole eggs + 3 scoops whey + 1 tbsp olive oil (or 1 cup oat on workout days)+ 1 tbsp fish oil

Meal 2: Chili (50 grams of protein from lean ground beef + 25 grams of carbs from beans + whatever fat the meat contains)

Meal 3: 7 oz chicken or beef with salad

Meal 4: Same as meal 2

Meal 5: 7 oz shrimps or beef with veggies

Meal 6: 3 scoops Metabolic Drive + 1 tbsp nat PB + 2 tbsp Fish oil

On workout days I add three scoops of Surge post workout.

Adding carbs in the form of oats/rice whatever would be an easy way to increase total energy intake but it might not be the best choice given my desire to fit my pants (a new wardrobe would be expensive) so think I will simply up my intake of olive oil.

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Ok. Up 10 lbs in the past 8 weeks or so. Things learned:

McDonalds and In 'n Out are great for hypertrophy.

There is definitely something to the Dave_ plan for hypertrophy and EDT works well for putting on muscle.

I’m going to try the RSGZ/Scott M/Dave_/DC plan of SS cardio 2-3x/week to see how it helps me grow.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
josh86 wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Lets keep it going. What do you guys eat on a daily basis?..really clean?..whatever gets the calories in? etc…

Here�??s a rundown of what I eat on average during the week.

7am �?? 4-5 whole eggs, ½ cup oatmeal (dry), 1 banana, 10-12oz whole milk, 2 scoops of protein powder (all blended together)

10am �?? ground beef patties/bunch of chicken/carne asada �?? something along those lines, 10-12oz whole milk

12:30pm �?? 2 cans of tuna, bunch of mayo, 10-12oz whole milk

3:30pm �?? 16oz whole milk w/ 2 scoops protein powder

5:15pm �?? pre workout shake 60g carb, 30g protein

6:45pm �?? post workout shake 60-80g carb, 30g protein (sometimes I�??ll eat some icecream along with the shake if I felt like I really earned it)

7:30-8pm �?? whatever big meal I throw together, always make sure its got lots of meat and good carb source, yesterdays was a triple whopper with cheese form BK!

9:30pm �?? pre-bed snack cottage cheese, sometimes peanut butter with it aswell

Now that I see someone else has learned the secret of the Triple Whopper, I feel more comfortable listing what I ate yesterday.

Meal 1
8 whole eggs. (I would eat some carbs here as well if I had more time in the mornings)

Meal 2
80gr protein shake

Meal 3
.5-1lbs steak and about 1 cup of dirty rice

Meal 4
40gr protein shake

Meal 5
2 toasted Philly cheese steak sandwiches (with extra steak), 6 wings and some breadsticks from Dominoes Pizza

Meal 6
.5-1lbs steak and dirty rice

Meal 7
Triple meat WhatAburger with the grease drained/pressed off

I have no idea what the actual calories are but changes will be made based on whether I am gaining from that.
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Holy shit PX, you’re a beast. I can eat pretty big, but Meal 5 would have me shitting cynder blocks for a week!!

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Ok. Up 10 lbs in the past 8 weeks or so. Things learned:

McDonalds and In 'n Out are great for hypertrophy.

There is definitely something to the Dave_ plan for hypertrophy and EDT works well for putting on muscle.

I’m going to try the RSGZ/Scott M/Dave_/DC plan of SS cardio 2-3x/week to see how it helps me grow.

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Give it a go - but remember to compensate with food.

I’m thinking of ways to get more calories down - seriously the first time in my life I’m actually eating like a pig and not gaining crazy amounts of weight - the cycling is having quite an effect.

Been doing noodles/kidney beans/tuna mixed for quick filling meals lately at work, along with lots of chicken/tuna rolls.

217ish as of Monday at 6’.

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How about posting some pics. I want to get motivated…

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
How about posting some pics. I want to get motivated…[/quote]

For the shorter guys like me:

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
How about posting some pics. I want to get motivated…[/quote]

Me at Peak Bulk at about 208:

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Me Post Cut at around 186:

Sorry for the “ghey abz” pose but it correlates with my bulk pic so you can compare the two.

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Me now Upping my calories heading into my next bulk starting by the end of this month:

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[quote]football061 wrote:
Me now Upping my calories heading into my next bulk starting by the end of this month:

[photo]16839[/photo]

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Why.so.serious?

Just kidding man, keep it up.

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Never stop bulking! I’m up from around 189 at the beginning of the summer to around 201, hopefully hitting 215 by the end of winter. Lifts are all through the roof too, going for a 600lb deadlift before years end!