bulking still! 2006 148lbs…yesterday 190.5lbs Yahhooo, still rocking the 32in waist.
i eat a lot, i poop a lot, then i eat more.
Calorie dense, i put olive oil on everything and two scoops of Casein before bed has helped.
Count me in on this thread as well gentlemen. I used to do the lean gain, then the bulk/cut cycles, and it gets you nowhere if you freak out everytime your abs disappear.
Been bulking about 5 weeks now and have gained 11 lbs thus far. My nutritional rules are as follows…
-At least 50 grams of protein each meal
-At least 6 meals a day
-Nothing deep fried
-Last meal of the night is a carb cutoff. I only consume 60 grams of casein/whey shake and my fish oil caps.
-EAT A LOT
I got a lot of this protocol from playing around with my food intake after coming across Dante Trudell and Doggcrapp Training. While I have ditched DC Training for the time being (Got REALLY hard on my CNS) I am using WS4SB and continuing the DC eating/cardio protocols, and everything Dante has said about becoming a fat burning, muscle building blast furnace is dead on accurate for me.
2 1/2 years ago when I began training again I was 125 lbs. Im at 185 right now and just as lean, if not a little leaner (I’m 5’6"). I’m in this bitch for the long haul guys. My plan is to bulk until I hit 250 lbs, hence doubling my natural, non lifting bodyweight. Calories sit between 4 and 5,000 per day right now, based on what I usually get in, but the only thing I am really counting and keeping hard track of is protein.
And, I couldn’t be happier. Skinny sucks. Dieting sucks. And I refuse to do it again until I gain that next 65 lbs. Good luck gentlemen, and even when you’re so full you could puke as it’s time for the next meal, just smile and remember how terrible hard dieting feels, and then pound that food down.
Kubo
[quote]shizen wrote:
Anyone not from california is missing out on In-n-Out. Had one of these today, 4x4 stack animal style. Also I’m sure if you asked them they would give you 4 slices of meat just might be little extra if they don’t still do quad. [/quote]
I think even God likes His double double animal style.
Prof X:
For bulking should you increase calories (every 3 weeks or so) until you muscle gain slows? SO you know you are gaining the most amount of musce possible.
[quote]Phoenix Theory wrote:
Prof X:
For bulking should you increase calories (every 3 weeks or so) until you muscle gain slows? SO you know you are gaining the most amount of musce possible.[/quote]
Why would I wait 3 weeks to increase calories if I wasn’t gaining right now?
I am not one of the ones who thinks you need to gradually add 200-300 calories a week until you finally see a gain. I am one of the ones that believes you need to QUICKLY find the caloric range that leads to muscle gains and then make adjustments if there is too much food or too many carbs or one of any number of variables that needs to be changed.
[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
check out the comment of the skinny fuck.[/quote]
that dudes got some interesting videos lol
but he’s a monster for sure, and doesnt seem to care what anyone thinks about it.
on topic, ive gained roughly 17 pounds the last two months. for too long i didnt train consistently, or aggressively. and for too long i believed ideas about how a ‘balanced diet’ was all that was needed to gain muscle.
its easy to understand how new trainees can get lead astray by all the differing and contradictory information out there. my only regret is i wasted my late twenties by barely working out and eating like garbage. oh well, cant change that now.
[quote]shizen wrote:
Anyone not from california is missing out on In-n-Out. Had one of these today, 4x4 stack animal style. Also I’m sure if you asked them they would give you 4 slices of meat just might be little extra if they don’t still do quad. [/quote]
agreed, in-n-out is wonderful. PWO i occasionally go get a 3x3, followed by a double-double. delicious. i’m 5’8, ~205 right now, i’ll weigh whatever my training takes me to once my junior season starts for baseball this spring.
and, crazily enough, i haven’t lost very much speed (if any) from when i was 168 in fall ball last year. hmmm. maybe there’s something to this bulking after all.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
I’ve never heard of hardees, I’ll have to see if we have those here in Cali.[/quote]
no, we have carl’s jr. same thing
169 when I graduated high school in June 07’, now 202.5 as of Monday and I plan to continue until at least 215-220.
Truth be told, I’m not as lean as I’d like to be and I still have deep seated insecurities from being a lard ass kid once upon a time. However, with every increase in back/chest/arm thickness my low back fat and the flab pinch around my bellybutton seem all the more insignificant. I can still see the outline of my obliques, so I figure I’ll keep on trucking.
Some of my buddies(who happen to be bigger/leaner/stronger than I) say I eat “too clean” and I probably do. No cheat meals, no evening carbs, no white flour/refined grains(or gluten, for that matter), sparse carbs on non-workout days, no alcohol and I can easily add weight on ~3500 calories despite two-a-day workouts and cardio. Nature of the beast I suppose…
I really, really, really want to be big and do that now.
That is my number one goal.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
You bastards, now ive gotta put on pants and go drive to get a Fricken triple whopper.
–JB[/quote]
This is the beauty of the drive-through, no pants required!
Well, after seeing that youtube video and the response from the pissy little guy along with reading enough of what the “big” guys are saying, I finally see I have not been doing things optimally. Since I have never had a probably gaining weight (especially fat), and started originally working out in high school to get lean I have always thought the idea of “bulking” was not for me. Yet now after a few years of training I can see that I really do not look a lot different than last year and probably only gain 5-8 lbs. a year because I am scared of getting consuming large quantities of food and watching my waistline increase.
A couple of days ago I posted some pics in the performance section after my most recent “cutting” phase.
However, I am finally ready to commit to eating over 3000 calories a day and break my two year streak of mainly low-carb eating. I am going back to my old 5 day body part split and am ready to become one of the big boys here.
Thank you for this thread.
Been lurking for a while in this thread. Good stuff here.
I’m starting my first bulk next week. I have a question about weight gain targets. A few people are posting up large gains for relatively short periods of time. I read an article by CT where he said the max amount of muscle you can gain a week is about 1lb. I accept you need to gain some fat to gain large amounts of muscle, but what weekly gain should I be aiming for?
For info, I’m a FFB (100lbs lost in last 2 years). Still pretty lean muscle-wise, and worried about adding too much fat. But, I do want to add some serious bulk.
[quote]appro wrote:
Been lurking for a while in this thread. Good stuff here.
I’m starting my first bulk next week. I have a question about weight gain targets. A few people are posting up large gains for relatively short periods of time. I read an article by CT where he said the max amount of muscle you can gain a week is about 1lb. I accept you need to gain some fat to gain large amounts of muscle, but what weekly gain should I be aiming for?
For info, I’m a FFB (100lbs lost in last 2 years). Still pretty lean muscle-wise, and worried about adding too much fat. But, I do want to add some serious bulk.[/quote]
Your 1st bulk ???
And what is a FFB ? Fabulous fat burner ???
Congrats on the fat loss though.
As for 1 lb a week, i would really doubt that is a universal truth for every single person. i think thats probably meant as a guideline as to how much is attainable.
In a perfect setting i would think more than 1 lb is attainable, id have given up years ago if i knew that.
Dont get to caught up the numbers and please for the love of god dont get your bf tested once a week. You HAVE to make yourself a solid promise to bulk, not bulk untill you lose the slighted hint of your abz.
Bulking is at the very least a 5 to 10 year long commitment for any real solid muscle gain. Like im at it over 7 years now and will not stop till i hit 300 which should take another 3-4 years.
Protein should be at the very least 1.5g per lb of beodyweight
Fat should be at least 1.2g per lb of bodyweight
Carbs are up to you as a person.
Experiment dont look at what this or that professional does its YOUR body so if you find its say 3000 cals, weight yourself once a week if the scale doesnt move add more cals…
If it moves to fast to be realistic muscle/water gain then take the cals down a notch or add some cardio.
Weigh yourself 1st thing once a week after you piss, if your not gaining then your going nowhere so EAT.
Just for curiosity what weight are you now ??
[quote]300andabove wrote:
Your 1st bulk ???
And what is a FFB ? Fabulous fat burner ???
Congrats on the fat loss though.
As for 1 lb a week, i would really doubt that is a universal truth for every single person. i think thats probably meant as a guideline as to how much is attainable.
In a perfect setting i would think more than 1 lb is attainable, id have given up years ago if i knew that.
Dont get to caught up the numbers and please for the love of god dont get your bf tested once a week. You HAVE to make yourself a solid promise to bulk, not bulk untill you lose the slighted hint of your abz.
Bulking is at the very least a 5 to 10 year long commitment for any real solid muscle gain. Like im at it over 7 years now and will not stop till i hit 300 which should take another 3-4 years.
Protein should be at the very least 1.5g per lb of beodyweight
Fat should be at least 1.2g per lb of bodyweight
Carbs are up to you as a person.
Experiment dont look at what this or that professional does its YOUR body so if you find its say 3000 cals, weight yourself once a week if the scale doesnt move add more cals…
If it moves to fast to be realistic muscle/water gain then take the cals down a notch or add some cardio.
Weigh yourself 1st thing once a week after you piss, if your not gaining then your going nowhere so EAT.
Just for curiosity what weight are you now ?? [/quote]
Yes first bulk. The aim was to lose the weight and maybe get a little stronger/fitter. Now it’s to gain muscle. I now weigh 170lbs. I probably could do with losing another 10-15lbs to get shredded, but to be honest, after 2 years of dieting, I’ve had enough. I want to be able to eat! Hehe.
So, I want to bulk up over a long period, then cut the excess fat (maybe before summer next year). I don’t mind putting on a bit of fat, but I don’t want it to get out of control.
To be honest the nutrition side of things I’m ok with. I’ve done tons of reading/research. Got all my spreadsheets/meals/macros worked out, hehe. Was going to start with 3000 cals and work up from there.
As this is new to me, I need to judge progress by weighing myself. It’s the weekly target gain that I need advice on.
[quote]appro wrote:
I’ve done tons of reading/research. Got all my spreadsheets/meals/macros worked out, hehe.
[/quote]
I swear, if you actually need a fucking spread sheet as a beginner, this may not be the best use of your time.
Spreadsheets for what exactly ???
I mean it isn’t THAT hard…
Off the top of my head for a bulking 170lber:
Breakfast:
1 Scoops Whey Protein
2 Whole Omega 3 Eggs
1/2 Cup Blueberries
5-7g of Fish Oil (Depending on amt of epa/dfa)
Snack:
1/2 Cup Cottage Cheese
15-20 Almonds
Lunch:
5oz Chicken/Turkey
1 Cup Wholegrain Rice
LOTS of Brocolli
5-7g Fish Oil
Snack:
1/2 Cup Cottage Cheese
1 Cup Hazelnuts
Pre Workout:
1 Scoop Whey Protein
During:
35g Liquid BCAA’s
Post Workout:
2 Scoops Whey Protein
Maltodextrin (Every gram of protein have 4g of malto)
Dinner:
7oz Beef/Steak
Lots more Brocolli
Cup Carrots
Cup Spinach
Before Bed:
1 Cup Cottage Cheese
1 Cup Cashew Nuts
Do that for 1 week, then swap out the meat for some other meat… etc etc.
Gain to fast drop down some fat, then protein.
Not gaining add more to the postworkout meal OR breakfast
No spreadsheets needed.
And dont bother searching for the “perfect” program either doesn’t exist.
Pick one do it with 100% intensity and you will make progress.
Haha, I knew the spreadsheet comment would get a reaction.
It helps me get an idea of what I need to eat. It takes no time to maintain. In fact it saves me time. It allows me to quickly check out the stats of foods & combos of foods. It helps me plan my meals in advance. Plus I’m a geek 
It’s helped me lose 100lbs of fat, so it’s not all bad.
Anyway, I don’t live by it, it’s just there for general guidance. I plan to lift heavy, eat big & work my ass off. But I like goals & targets. They motivate me.
[quote]shizen wrote:
I’ll upload some tomorrow in my profile.
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Where are those photos?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
8 eggs…haahaha
Hey, I’m usually in a rush. Trust me, I make up for it on days off.
[/quote]
I miss eggs. Breakfast used to be so much easier when I could eat them.
