[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
CT stated he has probably put on around 45 lbs of muscle due to training. CT has more muscle than PX imo. Yet PX has added 80lbs of muscle due to training. Somehow PX has added 35 lbs more muscle than CT has. And looking at the visual difference 35lbs of muscle makes (Dex vs. Stu), somethig isn’t quite adding up. But for the most part, we all know this.
It’s one thing to say you shouldn’t set limits on others, but I don’t think it’s necessary for one to inflate there own stats to make that point. [/quote]
CT also stated I was about 16-17% in CO so you may want to work on your numbers.
I am also taller than CT.
Question to all:
For guys like Whitacre, Cordova, or Stu, that competes in the 170’s, which do you think would be more beneficial in trying to acheive there best physique and which would hold them back: trying to get to a 190-200 lb contest condition, or acknowledging that may be extremely unrealistic and not try.
I think what needs to accepted is that apparently NOT competing allows you to make more progress.
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
CT stated he has probably put on around 45 lbs of muscle due to training. CT has more muscle than PX imo. Yet PX has added 80lbs of muscle due to training. Somehow PX has added 35 lbs more muscle than CT has. And looking at the visual difference 35lbs of muscle makes (Dex vs. Stu), somethig isn’t quite adding up. But for the most part, we all know this.
It’s one thing to say you shouldn’t set limits on others, but I don’t think it’s necessary for one to inflate there own stats to make that point. [/quote]
Agreed. CT also said to X in one of the videos that he’d probably have to lose at LEAST 50 pounds to be close to competition weight. [/quote]
but he doesnt care about competing for a plastic trophy just to say he did it ;)**
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It’s not about the trophy, it’s about the road getting there, and feeling of accomplishment standing onstage and knowing what it took to reach that point.
Trophy or no trophy, real competitors understand this and hold their head up high even if they place out of the top 5.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
CT stated he has probably put on around 45 lbs of muscle due to training. CT has more muscle than PX imo. Yet PX has added 80lbs of muscle due to training. Somehow PX has added 35 lbs more muscle than CT has. And looking at the visual difference 35lbs of muscle makes (Dex vs. Stu), somethig isn’t quite adding up. But for the most part, we all know this.
It’s one thing to say you shouldn’t set limits on others, but I don’t think it’s necessary for one to inflate there own stats to make that point. [/quote]
Agreed. CT also said to X in one of the videos that he’d probably have to lose at LEAST 50 pounds to be close to competition weight. [/quote]
but he doesnt care about competing for a plastic trophy just to say he did it ;)**
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It’s not about the trophy, it’s about the road getting there, and feeling of accomplishment standing onstage and knowing what it took to reach that point.
Trophy or no trophy, real competitors understand this and hold their head up high even if they place out of the top 5.
S[/quote]
?? What does this have to do with why I want to compete or not?
I know a lot of people who have competed for years and never placed well. They may be “real” competitors, but that isn’t my desire or goal.
Further, what does this thread have to do with this?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think what needs to accepted is that apparently NOT competing allows you to make more progress. [/quote]
I think you have a different definition of “progress” than competitive bodybuilders.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think what needs to accepted is that apparently NOT competing allows you to make more progress. [/quote]
I think you have a different definition of “progress” than competitive bodybuilders.[/quote]
? Most people here won’t compete. So again, if someone can beat that “limit” by simply NOT being down to 7% body fat, then why set a limit?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
You know the difference between lying and being mistaken, right? [/quote]
Doesn’t matter. You jumped in here and made a claim as if it were truth…and didn’t say, “I think he said.”. That is the difference between not being certain and lying.[/quote]
I’m still pretty sure I know what you wrote, although I could be mistaken. [/quote]
Then quote it or shut the hell up. What good is saying I said something but getting the quote wrong just so you can make jokes?
I posted pics of me at 285lbs NOT fat. Believe what you want.
My avatar right now is after two surgeries and a year of rehab after a motorcycle accident when I nearly lost my eye. Anyone laughing at my progress after that when most humans wouldn’t have been lifting ANYTHING can kiss my ass.[/quote]
Lets take your 285 “NOT fat” and your self proclaimed (allegedly) 230 stage weight and do a fun numbers crunch real quick.
At a “NOT fat” 285 with a “NOT fat” BF % of 25% (technically obese) that would mean you have 214lbs of LBM.
At a stage wight of 230lbs with 6%BF that would mean you’re carrying 216lbs of LBM.
Virtually the same LBM.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Lets take your 285 “NOT fat” and your self proclaimed (allegedly) 230 stage weight and do a fun numbers crunch real quick.
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Why would you do that when I never stated that I was planning to hit “230lbs contest condition”?
One poster says this and lies…and now you all just run with it.
Interesting.
Also, I’d still like to know the answer to my question. It’s pretty simple.
I will even go as far, and I hate to do this, as going on record to say that if you answer my BF%/weight question that I will not criticize it in this thread.
I genuinely would like to know. My curiosity is definitely peaked.
This place sure was quiet the last few days.
Where is this pic of a not fat 285?
[quote]gregron wrote:
Also, I’d still like to know the answer to my question. It’s pretty simple.
I will even go as far, and I hate to do this, as going on record to say that if you answer my BF%/weight question that I will not criticize it in this thread.
I genuinely would like to know. My curiosity is definitely peaked. [/quote]
LOL. Dude, I don’t care what you want to know. You and friends aren’t here to help anyone make progress. You are here for jokes.
Keep holding your breath.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Lets take your 285 “NOT fat” and your self proclaimed (allegedly) 230 stage weight and do a fun numbers crunch real quick.
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Why would you do that when I never stated that I was planning to hit “230lbs contest condition”?
One poster says this and lies…and now you all just run with it.
Interesting.
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I said allegedly. You’re innocent until proven guilty Prof.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Where is this pic of a not fat 285?[/quote]
The first pic I posted with my shirt off was me at 285lbs.
I have posted my progress over the years pretty consistently. Amazing how you all only remember what you want.
Some person(s) here just seem overly defensive.
There was some interesting discussion going on.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Just an FYI, BB.com has deleted that entire thread. :([/quote]
It was too retarded, even for BB.com…
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Lets take your 285 “NOT fat” and your self proclaimed (allegedly) 230 stage weight and do a fun numbers crunch real quick.
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Why would you do that when I never stated that I was planning to hit “230lbs contest condition”?
One poster says this and lies…and now you all just run with it.
Interesting.
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I said allegedly. You’re innocent until proven guilty Prof.
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LOL!!!
So even after I write that I didn’t say it, you all just keep on with the lie.
This is hilarious.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Lets take your 285 “NOT fat” and your self proclaimed (allegedly) 230 stage weight and do a fun numbers crunch real quick.
[/quote]
Why would you do that when I never stated that I was planning to hit “230lbs contest condition”?
One poster says this and lies…and now you all just run with it.
Interesting.
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I said allegedly. You’re innocent until proven guilty Prof.
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LOL!!!
So even after I write that I didn’t say it, you all just keep on with the lie.
This is hilarious.
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I didn’t keep on with the lie, I acknowledged that it wasn’t a fact and that it was an allegation. (ALLEGEDLY)
Lanky said he was going to go look for it so we’ll have to see what he comes back with.
So what were you?
220lbs of LBM? 28% BF
230lbs of LBM? 25% BF
240lbs of LBM? 21% BF
Or am I still too high?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think what needs to accepted is that apparently NOT competing allows you to make more progress. [/quote]
so not competing in bodybuilding allows you to make more progress in bodybuilding?
does not compute