This thread reminds me of Steve Hughes I saw on TV, hilarious!
fair enough Professor, I’m in no position to comment on American youths.
LiquidMercury, I agree, sometimes with kids they just turn out the way they turn out, because of or in spite of the parents best efforts.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
This thread reminds me of Steve Hughes I saw on TV, hilarious!
HA. This man wins.
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
Summary of this thread (but I exaggerate a bit too)
Young people these days, tut tut, they dont work hard enough, are disrespectful to their elders, have terrible taste in clothes, some of the boys look like girls, and their music is far too loud and you cant even understand the words theyre signing. And their hair is far too long. A spell a Military Service is what they need, that’ll sort them out. I blame the parents myself.
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When I was younger I had to walk to school both ways uphill. I only spoke when spoken to. Kids these days are spoiled and lazy… wait this sounds familiar
Kids have always been dumb, lazy, and rude since the dawn of time.
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
Summary of this thread (but I exaggerate a bit too)
Young people these days, tut tut, they dont work hard enough, are disrespectful to their elders, have terrible taste in clothes, some of the boys look like girls, and their music is far too loud and you cant even understand the words theyre signing. And their hair is far too long. A spell a Military Service is what they need, that’ll sort them out. I blame the parents myself.
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When I was younger I had to walk to school both ways uphill. I only spoke when spoken to. Kids these days are spoiled and lazy… wait this sounds familiar
Kids have always been dumb, lazy, and rude since the dawn of time.[/quote]
Gee, since that isn’t what I am discussing, maybe you can start your own thread since you can’t grasp this one.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
The military could beat it out of them? My brother is like what you are describing, constantly thinking he should be given everything, nothing is ever his fault, and generally making very poor decisions in his life. The ONE instance of him doing well in life was when he was in Military School (yes I know not the same as the military). Personally I think nothing would be better for him than going into one of the branches and having a bit of responsibility instilled him.[/quote]
If this were 20 years ago, I would agree. However, because of the weaker constitutions of these guys as well as their parents, if some kid goes down because he was running “too hard”, it will cause the same media reaction as what just happened to that college coach who got fired.
You can’t fix this without changing the parents…and as we are seeing here, many people still see this as the same old “them youngin’s is crazy” bullshit. I could see if I was over the age of 40 and saying this but I’m not.[/quote]
I don’t think it’s necessarily all the parents. For instance, my brother and I are only 18 months apart, and were raised almost identically. My parents had a rule that you had to play a sport, had to do well in school, and had to play an instrument at all time so it’s not as though we were spending time inside or playing tons of video games like you see with many kids today. He and I couldn’t be more different in how we’ve turned out. It truly isn’t always about the parents, though it definitely can be, I think our societal views as a whole are mass producing youths that just generally suck at life, in particular our school systems.[/quote]
I don’t disagree. More goes into who you are than just parental influence. Peers are a major factor as well…and again, that goes back to parenting…they just aren’t YOUR kids specifically but the damage done in their own homes can affect yours.
I’ve watched a couple episodes of Made on MTV and if that is a representation of even most youth, they are fucked when they get older. The world isn’t that fair to raise your kids to be that weak.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
Summary of this thread (but I exaggerate a bit too)
Young people these days, tut tut, they dont work hard enough, are disrespectful to their elders, have terrible taste in clothes, some of the boys look like girls, and their music is far too loud and you cant even understand the words theyre signing. And their hair is far too long. A spell a Military Service is what they need, that’ll sort them out. I blame the parents myself.
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You are a little slow if this is what you understood from this. These fuckers wouldn’t survive military service so why would I recommend that? The problem is AT HOME. The military can’t rewire your kids if you literally raise them to believe they are owed something just for living.[/quote]
What’s that line? “Give me the child for the first seven years and I’ll give you the man”, something along those lines…
I say we just remove poison warnings and labels off of everything. Darwinism at it’s simplest form. Also release the animals from the zoo, bring back godzilla.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
This thread reminds me of Steve Hughes I saw on TV, hilarious!
The sad thing is, many of the same people laughing at that show are the same ones causing the damn problem.
He’s right though. People act like being offended today is some trampling of their rights. Even on this site the whining that goes on just because you didn’t rock these jackasses to sleep with your words is ridiculous.
I actually feel sorry for them…because there is no way in hell the real world will work in their favor when it is all said and done.
That may be why half the students graduating from college can’t find jobs.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who knows? What we do know is in the 20’s, soldiers were often turned away for being too weak and skinny due to the Depression. We also know that currently, the general public is so out of shape, the military has had to completely change their standards and even change the requirements during bootcamp to accommodate the current wave of jellyfish.
We know this has never happened before.
We know that obesity is at an all time high.
We know that students in America do not stand up against students in other developed countries academically.
We know that the average kid in America knows more about an X-box than a mitochondria.
What else do we need to know to notice a significant problem and start to fix it?[/quote]
I am curious how the military has completely changed their standards.
Also, I guarantee kids in the 80’s knew more about Metallica and Van damme than the mitochondria.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who knows? What we do know is in the 20’s, soldiers were often turned away for being too weak and skinny due to the Depression. We also know that currently, the general public is so out of shape, the military has had to completely change their standards and even change the requirements during bootcamp to accommodate the current wave of jellyfish.
We know this has never happened before.
We know that obesity is at an all time high.
We know that students in America do not stand up against students in other developed countries academically.
We know that the average kid in America knows more about an X-box than a mitochondria.
What else do we need to know to notice a significant problem and start to fix it?[/quote]
I am curious how the military has completely changed their standards.
Also, I guarantee kids in the 80’s knew more about Metallica and Van damme than the mitochondria.[/quote]
? I am military and so is the other guy on the first page who responded to you. The requirements are more relaxed. I can tell you about the Air Force specifically but the other poster can tell you about the Army. One thing that stood out more than anything is the acceptance of flat out obesity of some women in uniform (not all but quite a number of them). PT was little more than a joke with lots of running. If you relied on that to stay in shape or make progress, you wouldn’t be.
I mean, I am going to assume you have no military experience the way you seem to think we don’t know what we are talking about.
Also, who gives a shit about the 80’s when the main point is that we are now far behind other countries?
Why excuse that and act like Van Halen means it is ok?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
? I am military and so is the other guy on the first page who responded to you. The requirements are more relaxed. I can tell you about the Air Force specifically but the other poster can tell you about the Army. One thing that stood out more than anything is the acceptance of flat out obesity of some women in uniform (not all but quite a number of them). PT was little more than a joke with lots of running. If you relied on that to stay in shape or make progress, you wouldn’t be.
I mean, I am going to assume you have no military experience the way you seem to think we don’t know what we are talking about.
Also, who gives a shit about the 80’s when the main point is that we are now far behind other countries?
Why excuse that and act like Van Halen means it is ok?[/quote]
I am a former Marine and I know the PT standards havent changed.
Thats the thing, The Marines dont have a problem with getting kids to conform to their standards, so why do the Air Force and Army?
The Army and Air Force didnt all of a sudden change their training in the last few years,it has happened over the last few decades by their choice,maybe because of political correctness and mothers of america, but not out of necessity for fat kids.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
? I am military and so is the other guy on the first page who responded to you. The requirements are more relaxed. I can tell you about the Air Force specifically but the other poster can tell you about the Army. One thing that stood out more than anything is the acceptance of flat out obesity of some women in uniform (not all but quite a number of them). PT was little more than a joke with lots of running. If you relied on that to stay in shape or make progress, you wouldn’t be.
I mean, I am going to assume you have no military experience the way you seem to think we don’t know what we are talking about.
Also, who gives a shit about the 80’s when the main point is that we are now far behind other countries?
Why excuse that and act like Van Halen means it is ok?[/quote]
I am a former Marine and I know the PT standards havent changed.
Thats the thing, The Marines dont have a problem with getting kids to conform to their standards, so why do the Air Force and Army?
The Army and Air Force didnt all of a sudden change their training in the last few years,it has happened over the last few decades by their choice,maybe because of political correctness and mothers of america, but not out of necessity for fat kids. [/quote]
The Marines are also much like the Rangers in that people already know about HELL WEEK and they know that it is supposed to be “the best of the best”. You can’t compare the two when the Army is admitting ex-cons to meet quotas.
The Air Force likely has the highest academic requirements, but even they are more relaxed when it comes to fitness because they NEED people to fill those jobs. They will allow the fat nurse a little slack because there aren’t that many in the position to start with.
Understand now? I would actually think a Marine would know this already seeing the difference in the standards and requirements.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
? I am military and so is the other guy on the first page who responded to you. The requirements are more relaxed. I can tell you about the Air Force specifically but the other poster can tell you about the Army. One thing that stood out more than anything is the acceptance of flat out obesity of some women in uniform (not all but quite a number of them). PT was little more than a joke with lots of running. If you relied on that to stay in shape or make progress, you wouldn’t be.
I mean, I am going to assume you have no military experience the way you seem to think we don’t know what we are talking about.
Also, who gives a shit about the 80’s when the main point is that we are now far behind other countries?
Why excuse that and act like Van Halen means it is ok?[/quote]
I am a former Marine and I know the PT standards havent changed.
Thats the thing, The Marines dont have a problem with getting kids to conform to their standards, so why do the Air Force and Army?
The Army and Air Force didnt all of a sudden change their training in the last few years,it has happened over the last few decades by their choice,maybe because of political correctness and mothers of america, but not out of necessity for fat kids. [/quote]
The Marines are also much like the Rangers in that people already know about HELL WEEK and they know that it is supposed to be “the best of the best”. You can’t compare the two when the Army is admitting ex-cons to meet quotas.
The Air Force likely has the highest academic requirements, but even they are more relaxed when it comes to fitness because they NEED people to fill those jobs. They will allow the fat nurse a little slack because there aren’t that many in the position to start with.
Understand now? I would actually think a Marine would know this already seeing the difference in the standards and requirements.[/quote]
Ofcorse I know the difference in standards, thats the whole point.
The AirForce CHOSE to let the fat ass nurse in and get away with being a fatass instead of whipping her into shape. Ya they may have to give some people waivers to get in, but by the time they finish basic there is no reason they should still be a fatass.
The responsibility should be on the Air Force and Army for the standards change instead of using this “fat” generation as an excuse to lax their standards.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Ofcorse I know the difference in standards, thats the whole point.
The AirForce CHOSE to let the fat ass nurse in and get away with being a fatass instead of whipping her into shape. Ya they may have to give some people waivers to get in, but by the time they finish basic there is no reason they should still be a fatass.
The responsibility should be on the Air Force and Army for the standards change instead of using this “fat” generation as an excuse to lax their standards.
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It can’t just fall on those agencies because those agencies would be BANKRUPT if they didn’t have the manpower. They can’t change society as a whole so they HAVE to make due with what they have. That is simple logic.
Yeah, maybe in a perfect world, we could scale down our military manpower drastically just so all of the ranks can be filled with Captain Americas. The problem is, that ain’t reality.
Reality is, we have a whole country filled with people who like cake yet hate exercise living luxury lifestyles on minimal income and we still need a viable military staff…so some corners have to be cut to make that happen.
If 60% of these mutherfuckers are obese or near it, how the hell can you blame the military for doing what it can with the shit that is available?
These kids are passing the fuck out during training. You can’t train them “harder” because the moment one of them croaks, it will be all over the evening news with the parents calling for war against the military for it.
Dude, there is simply no one else to blame anymore but the dumbass parents who allowed that to happen.
The fuck does this have to do with training to get as BIG and HUGE as possible? How is this relevant to getting 20"+ arms and putting on 100 lbs of muscle?
Not really sure why this thread was posted in the BODYBUILDING forum, where threads are about BODYBUILDING…
You haven’t noticed dozens of almost the exact same thread come up Virgin?
Prof X, don’t you have better things to do? …
[quote]SuperAlienFreak wrote:
Prof X, don’t you have better things to do? …[/quote]
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In the last 40min I just surgically extracted 6 teeth buried deep in the mouth of a patient and delivered a prosthesis…all done today in the last 2 hours. I don’t have a problem doing “better things” and still logging in. I think the real question is why people like you think this is impossible.
Having just finished college myself in late 2010, you’d be surprised at how many ‘students’ spend the whole semester partying and not doing shit. Then 7 days before exam time comes the semi-annual ritual of cramming for 4 subjects with 13 weeks of study each. Out of one class with 30 of us, less than 10 actually showed up for more than 75% of the classes. The others apparently had better things to do.
Come exam time, the online class forums would be littered with complaints and the teaching staff would get bombarded with negative student reviews (which are big at universities here) if they didn’t provide a comprehensive outline of the exam.
What cracks me up the most though was when I studied for every topic covered that semester, despite the lecturer making it clear that X, Y and Z topics were not assessable for the exam … was receiving the comments ‘but that topic is not on the exam so its a waste of time to study it’ when people saw me studying for it.
Yeah who gives a fuck, maybe I want to take the hard road and learn something and actually achieve something.
Most people under 25 lack intuition, lack intelligence and have failed at life in the most basic forms of ‘common sense’. It really is amazing when you give someone some simple advice and they somehow just can not take this on board.