TaeKwondo- A Course at My College? Yes, Yes It Is =D

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:

Yes lots of strikes. I dunno about how hard i would compare them to other MA’s like muay thai tho. The throws are considered standup because u dont actually mount your partner…but get points for the take down like in judo. I prefer muai thai over TKD. Strikes are much more brutal and less flashy (thai kick as compared to spinning heal kicks for example). Both very fun to learn tho.
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y DoNtt u Ttruyy sPlelling LiKe u spEakZ IngliSh?? lolzzz!!!111111

You fucking mongoloid.

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[quote]FirestormWarrior wrote:
Anyhow, where, in “non-tournament stuff” would you find groundfighting or grappling (or throws of any kind) in TKD? Not asking to be a dick, but I’ve been practicing TKD for quite some time, ITF; WTF; ETF (euro taekwondo fed); Open Style (basically just that,… open style standup, organized by TKD guys)… No trace of grappling whatsoever in those. Both tournament and training.

Where did you find any?[/quote]

I didn’t find any anywhere. But if you have a TKD school that claims to be “for the street” oftentimes they’ll incorporate some type of throw or holds. I’ve read a little online where they also say that before TKD became truly sparring oriented, it was more focuses on actual self defense, and they included throws and holds (albeit limited) in it.

Just something I read, I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that whatever was used in tournaments or the olympics completed eliminated whatever grappling techniques may have been in the original art.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]FirestormWarrior wrote:
Anyhow, where, in “non-tournament stuff” would you find groundfighting or grappling (or throws of any kind) in TKD? Not asking to be a dick, but I’ve been practicing TKD for quite some time, ITF; WTF; ETF (euro taekwondo fed); Open Style (basically just that,… open style standup, organized by TKD guys)… No trace of grappling whatsoever in those. Both tournament and training.

Where did you find any?[/quote]

I didn’t find any anywhere. But if you have a TKD school that claims to be “for the street” oftentimes they’ll incorporate some type of throw or holds. I’ve read a little online where they also say that before TKD became truly sparring oriented, it was more focuses on actual self defense, and they included throws and holds (albeit limited) in it.

Just something I read, I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that whatever was used in tournaments or the olympics completed eliminated whatever grappling techniques may have been in the original art.[/quote]

I see.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.[/quote]

Go back to looking at your top abs in the mirror.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.[/quote]

Go back to looking at your top abs in the mirror.[/quote]

As we speak…but u are still an idiot who gives out shit advice.

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.[/quote]

Go back to looking at your top abs in the mirror.[/quote]

As we speak…but u are still an idiot who gives out shit advice.[/quote]

Still got The Ghey I see.

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.[/quote]

Well, if you know better… tell me of those throws in the TKD curriculum.

Don’t get me worng, I could care less about your personal quarrel with FightingIrish. I’m sure you guys have your reasons.

Anyhow, you claim to know of grappling in TKD - something that can not be found in General Choi’s official TKD instructional books. Also, the complete black belt hyung doesn’t say a thing about them. Neither did any of my instructors.

So… give it a try. What are those TKD throws and why do only you know about them?

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[quote]FirestormWarrior wrote:

[quote]Beast Status wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

I didn’t find any anywhere. I’ve read a little online
I certainly don’t know for sure, but I was assuming that [/quote]

God i hope no one listens to you.[/quote]

Well, if you know better… tell me of those throws in the TKD curriculum.

Don’t get me worng, I could care less about your personal quarrel with FightingIrish. I’m sure you guys have your reasons.

Anyhow, you claim to know of grappling in TKD - something that can not be found in General Choi’s official TKD instructional books. Also, the complete black belt hyung doesn’t say a thing about them. Neither did any of my instructors.

So… give it a try. What are those TKD throws and why do only you know about them?[/quote]

Circular techniques in TKD

This is where an adversary’s strength is used against him - the harder he attacks the greater the pain he will feel. By intercepting and redirecting the force of an attack, the adversary can be manipulated into a position whereby a lock, stranglehold and/or finishing move can be applied. Grappling techniques are used in the linear approach to self defense both as a means of securing an adversary and freeing oneself from an adversary’s grip. The advantage of soft self-defense techniques is that damage to the attacker can be limited and, in many cases, no permanent injury need be inflicted. A properly applied stranglehold or joint lock will quickly convince all but the most psychotic of attackers that further aggression would be futile.

Throws. Known as too sul, Taekwondo practitioners need to know how to use an opponents force to their own advantage and throw him to the ground. Once on the ground the practitioner has greater control over his adversary and can follow up with subsequent controlling or finishing techniques.

Termination techniques. These are a range of strikes applied to an opponent downed by a previous throw or strike. Powerful downward travelling kicks and hand strikes are used to make sure the opponent stays down.

Nuff said. But like i pointed out, i practice muay thai and BJJ but apparently have more basic TKD knowledge than u. Ur wrong bud. Look it up “tournament boy.” My black belt cousin backs all of this up and i do remember as a child taking TKD and learning this shit.

As for irishpolesmoker. I dunno what his deal is. He got mad cuz i was picking on is arms from his picture on his profile and apparently because i have abs that makes me gay. I think he just likes the attention im giving him. Ghey

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:
As for irishpolesmoker. I dunno what his deal is. He got mad cuz i was picking on is arms from his picture on his profile and apparently because i have abs that makes me gay. I think he just likes the attention im giving him. Ghey[/quote]

I’m not mad at you. I could give two shits what you think about anything… You’re some fuckin flamer on the internet. You don’t, however, have any idea what you’re talking about.

TKD is not a “soft style” like your little jerkoff “black belt” cousin told you- it’s a hard style completely based around striking.

And the fact that you described your bodyfat percent as “??? top abs :P” makes you gay, not your weak ass attempts at a coherent insult.

Go back to the kids table frat boy.

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hahahahaha! Speaking of profile pictures, they explain your behavior. You’re just another dumb WOP that the Jersey shore show was based on, with your gay fucking pictures and your kissy face poses and Faux hawks.

Where’s your Affliction shirt Tony? Leave it back at da beach house? When you goin pro in dat UFC Shit???

hahahahaha, oh god you fucking homo.

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:

Circular techniques in TKD

This is where an adversary’s strength is used against him - the harder he attacks the greater the pain he will feel. By intercepting and redirecting the force of an attack, the adversary can be manipulated into a position whereby a lock, stranglehold and/or finishing move can be applied. Grappling techniques are used in the linear approach to self defense both as a means of securing an adversary and freeing oneself from an adversary’s grip. The advantage of soft self-defense techniques is that damage to the attacker can be limited and, in many cases, no permanent injury need be inflicted. A properly applied stranglehold or joint lock will quickly convince all but the most psychotic of attackers that further aggression would be futile.

Throws. Known as too sul, Taekwondo practitioners need to know how to use an opponents force to their own advantage and throw him to the ground. Once on the ground the practitioner has greater control over his adversary and can follow up with subsequent controlling or finishing techniques.
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You’re wrong, dude. What you just described is Hanmudo. When you google something to make a point, you better pay attention to details. ot every korean martial art is TaekwonDo. FightingIrish already pointed out there could be schools incorporating some kind of throws as means of self defense - still, that’s not TKD.

Yeah, that’s striking… TKD is all about striking.

Again, you’re wrong. Having won gold at a world championship doesn’t make me a “tournament boy”. I’ve had my share of Muay Thai (picture or it didn’t happen, I know. Look up my pictures. If you don’t recognize the guy I’m training with… you don’t know shit)) and BJJ. ALso, stuff like Krav, Sambo and WT.

By the way, I’m always trying to stay polite when posting, however, you are giving me a hard time in doing so. Guess you’re looking for recognition, even if it’s negative. Poor lad.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

TKD is not a “soft style” like your little jerkoff “black belt” cousin told you- it’s a hard style completely based around striking.

Go back to the kids table frat boy.[/quote]

Sorry, should have read that post before. Essentially says the same as mine, only more compact, more down-to-earth. So, x2.

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Can’t we all just go to the squat rack and do some curls?

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
hahahahaha! Speaking of profile pictures, they explain your behavior. You’re just another dumb WOP that the Jersey shore show was based on, with your gay fucking pictures and your kissy face poses and Faux hawks.

Where’s your Affliction shirt Tony? Leave it back at da beach house? When you goin pro in dat UFC Shit???

hahahahaha, oh god you fucking homo. [/quote]

WOP??? I have nothing against the italian ethnicity but im Irish, English and Welsh “bro”. Do i have big muscles and a tan…yup, so what. Get with the times Richard Simmons. Dont hate because guys like myself coninualy fuck your girlfriend and make u wonder what you’re doing wrong. Your some short, pale, SMALL. ugly dude from Jersey. No wonder your made at me. I would vent on some “guido” from Vermont too. Not like you have the balls to actually stand up for yourself in real life. Pathetic.

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[quote]FirestormWarrior wrote:

[quote]Beast Status wrote:

Circular techniques in TKD

This is where an adversary’s strength is used against him - the harder he attacks the greater the pain he will feel. By intercepting and redirecting the force of an attack, the adversary can be manipulated into a position whereby a lock, stranglehold and/or finishing move can be applied. Grappling techniques are used in the linear approach to self defense both as a means of securing an adversary and freeing oneself from an adversary’s grip. The advantage of soft self-defense techniques is that damage to the attacker can be limited and, in many cases, no permanent injury need be inflicted. A properly applied stranglehold or joint lock will quickly convince all but the most psychotic of attackers that further aggression would be futile.

Throws. Known as too sul, Taekwondo practitioners need to know how to use an opponents force to their own advantage and throw him to the ground. Once on the ground the practitioner has greater control over his adversary and can follow up with subsequent controlling or finishing techniques.
[/quote]

You’re wrong, dude. What you just described is Hanmudo. When you google something to make a point, you better pay attention to details. ot every korean martial art is TaekwonDo. FightingIrish already pointed out there could be schools incorporating some kind of throws as means of self defense - still, that’s not TKD.

Yeah, that’s striking… TKD is all about striking.

Again, you’re wrong. Having won gold at a world championship doesn’t make me a “tournament boy”. I’ve had my share of Muay Thai (picture or it didn’t happen, I know. Look up my pictures. If you don’t recognize the guy I’m training with… you don’t know shit)) and BJJ. ALso, stuff like Krav, Sambo and WT.

By the way, I’m always trying to stay polite when posting, however, you are giving me a hard time in doing so. Guess you’re looking for recognition, even if it’s negative. Poor lad.[/quote]

Cool man. But back to the OP…he will learn hip tosses in TKD class at school. Thats all i was saying from the get go. Im sure everyone believes what you say with so much “proof” to back it up. Personally i could care less about TKD. I dont study it and never will. It helps that my sparring partner is a blackbelt because im learning alot of new kicks that arent practiced in classic Muay Thai. If you say no throws in TKD…cool. Im just trying to push the OP into persuing the class.

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[quote]Beast Status wrote:
Im just trying to push the OP into persuing the class.[/quote]

Yea you never know, maybe your “black belt” cousin teaches it.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Beast Status wrote:
Im just trying to push the OP into persuing the class.[/quote]

Yea you never know, maybe your “black belt” cousin teaches it.

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Is he trying to argue with a new jersian??? CRAZY!!!

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I think its definitely worth a try cuz! In my opinion its always good to hit things so go take the class. You can learn something from everything but its up to you to decide wether is something good or Bad. Have fun!

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I know in my club we practice Chung Do Kwan which is the blue-wave school of tae kwon do, and we practice a couple of take downs (without ending on the ground) having said that, we also take a little from every discipline for our self defense portion of the class. I have yet to see anyone work on take-downs in sparring or tourney’s though. Either way, OP I would highly recommend the class. As someone mentioned, you’ll get flexibility, coordination, kicking techniques, and probably learn a bit about yourself. Keep in mind that the basics can be very repetitive and sometimes it might take you a while to get to the cool stuff.

Enjoy!