Which strength sports put athletes at greatest risk of injury?
The relative risk associated with participation in different strength sports is unclear. Few studies assessed more than one strength sport concurrently. Therefore, is possible that differences between study injury rates during training could have arisen from study artifacts (i.e. things like the exact way an injury was defined, or the precise population, etc.) and not from the type of strength sport being studied.
Nevertheless, if we are to draw any conclusion about the relative risks associated with injury rate in strength sports, it is that bodybuilding training is less injurious than training for other strength sports.
Now this causation doesn’t prove correlation. However without fail, every powerlifting or strength coach is teaching that dumb shit of “lock your scapula down” and the rate of shoulder injuries in powerlifting are, from what we can tell, significantly higher.
I have access to other data with the group I work with and they see the same thing. The rate of shoulder injury is directly connected to the teaching of “lock the scapula down during pressing”.
Thanks for the info. I can’t even begin to explain all the issues that arose from how I positioned myself on bench. To this day my right shoulder hasn’t fully recovered from straining the crap out of it
“Anything else or just more arguing for the sake of it?” Strange comment in an open forum.I thought we were just having an open dialogue. Just curious what the stats were. I didn’t know that would trigger you lol.
EXACTLY. My shoulders and triceps were always fried, and I just assumed that’s how they were supposed to be. And then I’d just throw in a direct chest movement or two because I never really felt the connection there.
Probably because this question has been asked about a zillion times over the last two weeks and I’ve repeated myself a zillion times with actual anatomy. And people still continue to be willfully ignorant about it. That is most definitely frustrating.
I ment prone incline y-raise, I rememmber You showing them in T-nation article while back (2018 I think), with pre locking the scapula, and I saw locking in pretty much every other video showing this version of y-raise, hence the question. My intention is not to be pain in the ass with this, just curious.
That’s not a Y-raise. That was a combination Cuban press. It’s not meant to be used for hypertrophy. It’s meant to be used to the scapula through various functions and train the lower traps. You start by pulling into retraction, then externally rotating, then raising to hit the low traps. But at no point do you try to lock the scaps into 1 position.
It’s like you guys are kind of missing my point about the scaps. It’s find to go into retraction, but if the humerus is moving then you don’t hold it there.
It was this trap raise, my mistake cause it’s looks very similiar to Y. I don’t mind asking dumb question if I learn something in the process. Honestly to me it’s Just looks like there’s retraction+depression, scapula locked and then humerus movement. Maybe there’s really smtng I’m missing but to me is literally in opposition to
“Shoulder packing during any movement where the humeri and scapula are moving should not have the shoulders “packed” and held there. Period.”
Again, Just Curious George here
I know I risking giving You a heart attack but I know You was talking about this version since You specify that it was standing one that You’re reffering to. I was just wondering If You still like the prone trap raise version to, like this one in article I’ve pasted. Like I said I see contradiction between the way it is done and “no locking” principle but maybe it’s due my poor anatomy understanding.
I really apreciate Your time spending on this topic and i honestly don’t want to be that guy that gives You “seeing red” reaction. I’m obsessed with this matter since reading Your initial post. It’s like ‘no knee past the toe’ debunked all over again. I hear You when You saing You’re tired with this.
Imagine using the mid back muscles to get the correct scap tilt, and keeping that same angle/tilt as the shoulder blades elevate with the arms. Instead of “locking” them in place, just don’t let them tip or “roll forward” as they move up. Keep the stable, not locked.