100%. I want you to create as much shoulder dysfunction as possible my man.
Sage advise as usual Coach!
This thread is incredible and hilarious! Thank you to everyone involved.
I’ve been in talks with some business people who are willing to invest in a clinic I want to open.
What we will do is remove your anterior serratus and traps and then screw your scapula down…since all of these strength coaches keep telling you guys those things shouldn’t be allowed to function.
This way, we’ll save everyone’s shoulders by simply removing the muscles/joints that aren’t supposed to be moving or functioning.
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Really great stuff
What do You think about Jeff’s take on shoulder stabilisation in pull ups?
(starts at 08:40)
Sounds exactly like what Paul has been advocating for in this thread to me.
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Pretty much, except Jeff advocates keeping depression at the bottom of rep…
Paul, could you give some pointers than how the bench press should be done to make it shoulder friendly/friendlier? Shooting for a middle ground of want to move some weight, want to build some pecs with it 
JM always does barbell bench in the 2nd or 3rd movement to make it safer.
Also this is anecdotal, but a slight incline or decline feels better on my shoulders than flat.
I don’t know how many different ways I’ve written it and addressed it at this point.
It’s the same as I’ve explained here, in Meadow’s videos, on my IG…
You allow the shoulders to go into retraction on the eccentric and create tension around the scapula, then you allow then to rotate around the ribs and come slightly forwards during the pressing part.
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Check out The Kabuki Strength’s team Instagram. Their most recent post explains it perfectly.
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I meant like “scapular friendly” movement cues (if there is such). I always feel like “bending the bar” and “pressing away/into the bench” makes it more unstable and deactivates my pec, while pressinf while “squeezing the pec” and pushing the “bar into intself” helps with it. I think I’m starting to feel what you talk about on most exercises, though there are some that need more work…like benching with a bar.
Also, does grip width and bar path effect scapular movement?
Cues for that can be to push the armpit into the center of the chest, or to try and bring the biceps together.
Grip width doesn’t change what you’re doing with your scapula.
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Talking about targeting the lats specifically - when doing seated cable rows, is a supinated grip more effective than neutral or pronated, since it puts shoulders into external rotation (same rationale for the supinated grip pulldowns)?
Are there any cues about biomechanics on seated cable rows?
Your cue of pulling the elbows into the front pockets worked wonders for pulldowns, while on cable rows so far I noticed a better contraction with the following cues:
-starting position with stretched lats (allowing the cable to pull shoulder blades into protraction at the beginning)
-keeping abs braced without arching the upper back
-driving with the elbows until they “touch” the lower lats, without bringing them behind the body
-brief isometric hold
-controlled negative going back to starting position with shoulder blades pulled into protraction and stretched lats
That’s it, I’m currently using neutral grip on these
I actually don’t prefer the supinated grip on pulldowns. It’s just that with a straight bar it’s better than the pronated grip.
A neutral grip for lat rows and pulldowns is always going to be preferred.
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So would a V-handle be better on pulldowns than a supinated grip on straight bar, if the gym doesn’t have those machines with separate handles on each side?
Building on that if you wanted to build the lats with a pullup would a sternum pullup with a neutral grip be the best?
Nvm tried it yesterday didnt feel lats. But i tried the hammer strength lat pulldown with added d handles and my lats are so sore. The supinated version is weak in effectiveness compared to thia version.
Virtually any type of chin up is going to be upperback based.
So for all you guys that want to ask “what about this chin up?”
It’s most likely that it’s going to be an upperback movement because all chins/pull ups are based around scapula movement in the initiation. That makes it upper back based.
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