[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
You haven’t tried drugs till you’ve tried testosterone. The first cycle I did I had a euphoric high like nothing I’ve ever known or felt. It’s the most powerful feeling in the world. [/quote]
You ever suck dick for testosterone?[/quote]
Yikes! I just had a flash of Robert Downey jr in the movie LESS THAN ZERO.
try low dose and run it for 1-2 weeks for first time. i lost my appetitie when i was on it and caught the flu too.
make sure you have pct or don’t bother. side effects are moderate to severe
be responsible and may the gains be with you
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
Massiveguns is giving the appearance of being someone who has never really done much in the way of drugs…
that being said, when I first started doing aas, I did feel incredible. I feel that it may have to do with how bad you feel about life, yourself, your body, etc before you begin aas…
i.e. the worst your body image is, the better feeling from aas you get. [/quote]
If you feel that way…then why are people laughing at one guy for saying it and not laughing at you for saying it?
The favoritism here is a little off.
Yes, I have heard that from many older guys who use testosterone and on those who are younger who may have originally been low.[/quote]
he said it was a euphoric high like nothing else… I said it made me feel incredible…
I hope you can see the difference
I didn’t read the whole thread but the last three pages were, for the most part, pretty good.
[quote]AzCats wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
You haven’t tried drugs till you’ve tried testosterone. The first cycle I did I had a euphoric high like nothing I’ve ever known or felt. It’s the most powerful feeling in the world. [/quote]
You ever suck dick for testosterone?[/quote]
Yikes! I just had a flash of Robert Downey jr in the movie LESS THAN ZERO.[/quote]
I stole that line from Half Baked, but now I feel like I need to see the Less Than Zero movie.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
I did not take the time to read all 18 pages in the thread. What I can offer you is my own personal experience.
I always wanted to be a freak. I knew from early on that steroids were part of the game. I never had a moral issue with them.
Is it cheating? If your a bodybuilder, I think not (unless you are doing natty shows and claiming natty, then it’s chickenshit). Drugs are tied so heavy to the sport.
If it’s strength sports, it depends. If you are in a drug tested powerlifting fed and using, again, that’s bullshit. If you are in strongman or an untested fed, you have to realize that you will be competing against many other people who are using them. You will never be as big and strong without them, as you will with them.
With regards to health risks, I think they are severely overblown. As someone who is on HRT and has ran 1 or 2 cycles a year for 7 years, my bloodwork has never been an issue. My wife just became pregnant without us trying to conceive (she wanted to come off birth control, 2 months later she was preggers). There are health risks to being this bodyweight however. The heart is not meant to support 270, 300, 330lbs of fat OR muscle.
For me, the pro list is so long and the con list is so short. It’s a personal choice that everyone has to make. I respect any of the people who choose to stay natural as that is hard thing to do with this lifestyle. [/quote]
Are you on HRT because eventually PCT stopped working for you, or you just decided to blast and cruise…or just age? Also curious if you ever regret that now you’re essentially a slave to weekly injections for life…have you tried to restart with HCG or anything like that?[/quote]
Just about everyone that is serious about lifting are slaves to daily and hourly things from pre and post workout shakes to counting macros each meal to doing brutal leg and back workouts twice per week. A once weekly injection does not sound like much compared to all of tge other things we slave ourselves to, especially when it means we will progress better. Now, I have never injected so I cant speak from experience, but it cant take more than 10 seconds to complete. It takes just as long to mix shake.
This being said, the probelem for many is tge legality imo. If tgis shit were legal everyone would be on it including me. Look at hoe many non roid users used the various prohormoneswhen they were legal.
[/quote]
This is actually a great point, didn’t think of it like that. However I would say that just because you’re into this in your 20s and 30s, doesn’t mean you’ll feel the same way later in life. Who knows where you’ll end up or what you’ll be doing years down the road.
And yeah the illegality is definitely an issue, moreso because it means you can’t trust what you’re injecting into your body than the chances of getting busted. I wonder how many people have spent $$$$ on fake HGH.
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.
The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid.
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]
false
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.
The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]
I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.
Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.
Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.
The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]
I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.
Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.
Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]
It does happen.
reasons why I’m still natty.
My current health insurance sucks and I am not financially stable enough to go on trt/hrt if I mess myself up permanently.
The only AAS I have access to are home brewed by some guy I don’t even know all that well… or online. So there is always the risk of getting shitty/underdosed/contaminated drugs. After all most drug dealers only care about money and will do anything to cut corners if it means more money at your expense.
If I were for some reason get busted I’d have to get my parents to bail me out, which would be a faggy thing for me to knowingly do.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]
false[/quote]
Way to back up your argument!
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
Massiveguns is giving the appearance of being someone who has never really done much in the way of drugs…
that being said, when I first started doing aas, I did feel incredible. I feel that it may have to do with how bad you feel about life, yourself, your body, etc before you begin aas…
i.e. the worst your body image is, the better feeling from aas you get. [/quote]
If you feel that way…then why are people laughing at one guy for saying it and not laughing at you for saying it?
The favoritism here is a little off.
Yes, I have heard that from many older guys who use testosterone and on those who are younger who may have originally been low.[/quote]
he said it was a euphoric high like nothing else… I said it made me feel incredible…
I hope you can see the difference[/quote]
Actually, no. It seems like a game of semantics because you both are basically saying the same thing.
Maybe he has never tried any other drugs so for him it was “like nothing else”.
This is like ganging up on someone based on just nitpicking certain words to death.
If you both agree, no one should be laughing at one and not the other. It makes no sense unless you are laughing because he probably never did mushrooms, LSD, marijuana, or a taquila binge.
at the risk of fanning the flames of a semantic argument, you can feel incredible without feeling euphoric, but you can’t feel euphoric without feeling incredible
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
at the risk of fanning the flames of a semantic argument, you can feel incredible without feeling euphoric, but you can’t feel euphoric without feeling incredible[/quote]
I prefer to feel incredible with light interfusions of euphoria.
I find that feeling both incredible AND euphoric makes it impossible to orgasm.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I find that feeling both incredible AND euphoric makes it impossible to orgasm.[/quote]
fap harder
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I find that feeling both incredible AND euphoric makes it impossible to orgasm.[/quote]
fap harder[/quote]
I went back in time.
Last time I take advice from you, bitch.
[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.
The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]
I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.
Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.
Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]
It does happen. [/quote]
You’ll notice i never said it doesn’t happen.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I find that feeling both incredible AND euphoric makes it impossible to orgasm.[/quote]
fap harder[/quote]
I went back in time.
Last time I take advice from you, bitch.[/quote]
LOL!
I hope you told the Prof X in the past not to listen to me
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.
The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]
I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.
Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.
Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]
It does happen. [/quote]
You’ll notice i never said it doesn’t happen.
[/quote]
So, if you agree that it does happen, what exactly is your point then?