Steroids: Why or Why Not?

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

he’s in the UK, getting busted with roids here ain’t no thang. Mate of mine got busted with all his gear in the car, cops didn’t even take it off him.

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

he’s in the UK, getting busted with roids here ain’t no thang. Mate of mine got busted with all his gear in the car, cops didn’t even take it off him.
[/quote]

Seems much harder to get busted with gear unless you get busted on your pick up. Is this most common, or is it through mail? I know it’s a federal offense to use the postal service to ship illegal substances in the states.

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]

false[/quote]

Way to back up your argument![/quote]

I don’t need to when you are obviously wrong

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
at the risk of fanning the flames of a semantic argument, you can feel incredible without feeling euphoric, but you can’t feel euphoric without feeling incredible[/quote]

essentially this… I think Prof x is just looking for an argument.

Im starting to see why everyone has blocked him

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

BBB was making and selling, not just buying for personal use.

There is a BIG difference between the two, let’s be very clear about that. If you start selling or making shit your chances of getting caught skyrocket.

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

BBB was making and selling, not just buying for personal use.

There is a BIG difference between the two, let’s be very clear about that. If you start selling or making shit your chances of getting caught skyrocket. [/quote]

oh absolutely, selling’s a whole different cup of tea

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]

false[/quote]

Way to back up your argument![/quote]

I don’t need to when you are obviously wrong[/quote]

Clearly. You must have access to information on the arrests of steroid and marijuana users which proves you are correct.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

I know of him. Dont think we ever had any interaction. Did he get busted? Is that why he stopped posting? I dont know how strict laws are in the UK about this type of thing (someone said he was in the UK)

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

Did you know BBB?[/quote]

BBB was making and selling, not just buying for personal use.

There is a BIG difference between the two, let’s be very clear about that. If you start selling or making shit your chances of getting caught skyrocket. [/quote]

This is all news to me. I dont personally know anyone who actually made their own gear so i cant comment on the risk involved in that.

[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

It does happen. [/quote]

You’ll notice i never said it doesn’t happen.
[/quote]

So, if you agree that it does happen, what exactly is your point then?[/quote]

Seriously? Dont be dense. Re-read if you have to.

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]

false[/quote]

Way to back up your argument![/quote]

I don’t need to when you are obviously wrong[/quote]

Clearly. You must have access to information on the arrests of steroid and marijuana users which proves you are correct. [/quote]

use logic.

here’s a couple scenarios for you, ill let you arrive a conclusion yourself.

  1. You are driving with your buddies across country. You are blasting Bob Marley and they are rolling some blunts to make your trip more cathartic. Five minutes into smoking those blunts, you see flashing red and blue lights in your rearview. Your buddies quickly ash the blunts as you pull over. Cop walks up and asks you to roll your window down. He says “Smells like weed in here, please step out of the car.”

You and your buddies are fucked, especially if he has a K9 with him.

  1. Same facts except your buddies are comparing stashes of juice. Your buddy decides to do a shot in the car just for shits and giggles. After he is done, he looks up and sees flashing lights in the rearview. Your friends then conceal their stashes in the glove compartment.

Does the cop walk up and say… “hmmm, smells like someone has been doing steroids in here, please step out of the car”?

simple application of logic and common sense…

they very fact that officers and k9 units can’t smell steroids would be enough to arrive at the conclusion that steroid users do not get busted nearly as much as marijuana users…

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed.

The people who get caught are for the most part, very stupid. [/quote]

I dont know anyone who’s been “busted” with gear. Not once.

Just about every pot-head i know/knew has been busted AT LEAST once. Some several times.

Granted there are more people who smoke weed than do steroids but still…[/quote]

It does happen. [/quote]

You’ll notice i never said it doesn’t happen.
[/quote]

So, if you agree that it does happen, what exactly is your point then?[/quote]

Seriously? Dont be dense. Re-read if you have to. [/quote]

Riiiiigght.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
at the risk of fanning the flames of a semantic argument, you can feel incredible without feeling euphoric, but you can’t feel euphoric without feeling incredible[/quote]

essentially this… I think Prof x is just looking for an argument.

Im starting to see why everyone has blocked him[/quote]

LOL at this. Some here attacked a guy for stating how he felt…which for him was euphoric and for you was “incredible”.

That is like being attacked because you stated that one of the Kardashians was a gold digger…and then agreeing that they are hoes who like guys with money.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]

false[/quote]

Way to back up your argument![/quote]

I don’t need to when you are obviously wrong[/quote]

Clearly. You must have access to information on the arrests of steroid and marijuana users which proves you are correct. [/quote]

use logic.

here’s a couple scenarios for you, ill let you arrive a conclusion yourself.

  1. You are driving with your buddies across country. You are blasting Bob Marley and they are rolling some blunts to make your trip more cathartic. Five minutes into smoking those blunts, you see flashing red and blue lights in your rearview. Your buddies quickly ash the blunts as you pull over. Cop walks up and asks you to roll your window down. He says “Smells like weed in here, please step out of the car.”

You and your buddies are fucked, especially if he has a K9 with him.

  1. Same facts except your buddies are comparing stashes of juice. Your buddy decides to do a shot in the car just for shits and giggles. After he is done, he looks up and sees flashing lights in the rearview. Your friends then conceal their stashes in the glove compartment.

Does the cop walk up and say… “hmmm, smells like someone has been doing steroids in here, please step out of the car”?

simple application of logic and common sense…

they very fact that officers and k9 units can’t smell steroids would be enough to arrive at the conclusion that steroid users do not get busted nearly as much as marijuana users… [/quote]

I don’t smoke pot, just not my thing. I guess where I am going wrong here is that I am assuming intelligent drug use. If I were to smoke pot, I would never do it in a car while driving. That is asking to be caught.

The point I was trying to make, was that your chances of being caught with AAS is very low. Pot is a common drug, and again I am assuming that most people who have smoked pot have never been arrested. I would say the same thing for AAS. Most people who use will never have a problem with the law, if they are smart about things. Agreed?

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
Regarding legality, I would say you have about as much of a chance being busted with gear as you do with weed. [/quote]

false[/quote]

Way to back up your argument![/quote]

I don’t need to when you are obviously wrong[/quote]

Clearly. You must have access to information on the arrests of steroid and marijuana users which proves you are correct. [/quote]

use logic.

here’s a couple scenarios for you, ill let you arrive a conclusion yourself.

  1. You are driving with your buddies across country. You are blasting Bob Marley and they are rolling some blunts to make your trip more cathartic. Five minutes into smoking those blunts, you see flashing red and blue lights in your rearview. Your buddies quickly ash the blunts as you pull over. Cop walks up and asks you to roll your window down. He says “Smells like weed in here, please step out of the car.”

You and your buddies are fucked, especially if he has a K9 with him.

  1. Same facts except your buddies are comparing stashes of juice. Your buddy decides to do a shot in the car just for shits and giggles. After he is done, he looks up and sees flashing lights in the rearview. Your friends then conceal their stashes in the glove compartment.

Does the cop walk up and say… “hmmm, smells like someone has been doing steroids in here, please step out of the car”?

simple application of logic and common sense…

they very fact that officers and k9 units can’t smell steroids would be enough to arrive at the conclusion that steroid users do not get busted nearly as much as marijuana users… [/quote]

I don’t smoke pot, just not my thing. I guess where I am going wrong here is that I am assuming intelligent drug use. If I were to smoke pot, I would never do it in a car while driving. That is asking to be caught.

The point I was trying to make, was that your chances of being caught with AAS is very low. Pot is a common drug, and again I am assuming that most people who have smoked pot have never been arrested. I would say the same thing for AAS. Most people who use will never have a problem with the law, if they are smart about things. Agreed? [/quote]

Lol at relating stoners to intelligent drug-use. Not laughing at you, laughing at the idea.

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
In most cases, once you are on the juice, you will never get off it. Lets face it, these are progressively physically and psychologically addictive substances. Its as if your entering a drug den, once you are in there again, in most cases, you’ll never really escape their lure and appeal. As you observed it is a extremely easy way to obtain size and bulk, but also observe the first law of physics, for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction, then you can realize the pitfalls and negatives of AAS.

Being unnatural, your testicles, within time, will shrivel up and perhaps later they will die from progression of use and you’ll be forced to use synthetics for the rest of your life. My uncle has observed this repeatedly over the past few decades. The addictive aspects of super pharmacological amounts of hormones should frighten you. Steroids can age your organs tremendously, along with causing possible kidney failure or liver toxicity. And those are only the known effects. As any pharmacist will tell you, for every known effect of a drug there are two that are unknown.

My uncle has seen all the negatives or steroid use you wouldn’t believe and I’ve seen some as well but it seems as though everyone is content to sell out for minimum/maximum gains and a short lived bodybuilding career. But you might just win a $50 plastic trophy! In steroids their is no discipline. I’ve observed people who trained very minimally and yet obtain a terrific physique from their ingestion! Of course, people combine them with discipline in eating and working out and turn out incredibly freaky physiques! I’m not saying they don’t. Once you abstain from use, you will atrophy and shrink like a prune. So this is the physical and mental aspect of AAS use without elaborating to much. You don’t have to be ignorant to know they are just not healthy. Some people, especially the young ones like your friend, seem to care little.

The other way in the natural way. Your body when built the natural way can and will maintain a terrific physique and for the rest of your life. Its not going to be easy but hard work is what separates the real men from the boys. Anything you earn in life is so monumentally rewarding is almost euphoric. Don’t ruin your physique, your health, and that feeling of accomplishment by taking the easier path.[/quote]

… What… The… Fuck…seriously?

Remember that one time I said that a good intelligent discussion was happening in here?
I was wrong.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Remember that one time I said that a good intelligent discussion was happening in here?
I was wrong.[/quote]

Remember that one time that a thread on T-Nation went this long and still contained a good, intelligent discussion?

Neither do i.

Let us all be enamored with friendship and conjoin perhaps at a friendly picnic with bread, salmon, perhaps grapes; maybe even some fresh ham! Allow us to partake in an evening saunter by the lake holding hands; and shall we dine by the glistening shore line partied by the efflorescent myriad of tropical weed and coral in which we admire oh so joyously.

Good golly gee, it sure is a privilege to read each and every post in this thread! See you around friends!