Steroids: Why or Why Not?

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
^in line with that I do find it amusing that “natural” lifters use all manner of synthetic supplements and other things that have been engineered in a lab, just like testosterone.

Testosterone is synthesized from potatoes. That’s pretty natural![/quote]

This.

IMO bitchy die-hard natural lifters are the worst hypocrites.

“Oh you’re a cheater and a loser for using steroids… hey is that the new miracle supplement that will help me build muscle and burn fat at the same time ? Oh I’m selling my soul to get some of that”

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

LOL BOOM!

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

FUCKING

EL-OH-FUCKING-EL

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

Meh, I got about 41000 views on my vids, not much for youtube, but enough.

Do you lift weights btw?

lol

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

Meh, I got about 41000 views on my vids, not much for youtube, but enough.

Do you lift weights btw?[/quote]

I do it all baby, pushups, pullups, one legged squat, High Volume Dead lift. I do the good stuff.

Judging by ur pics you have looked the same on this site for the past year & half. Sad.

BANG BANG

I like where this is going…

LOL

If you’r worried about legality there are plenty of prohormones and peptide hormones that you can buy legally online.

[quote]stl1387 wrote:
If you’r worried about legality there are plenty of prohormones and peptide hormones that you can buy legally online…which are often more dangerous and detrimental to your HPTA and liver than real steroids, and half as effective [/quote]

FYP

I couldn’t watch this thread develop since I was turkey hunting for the past week but you guys really blew up for no reason over my comments when later they were all stated later in the thread by someone else who observed them, besides the liver and kidney issues which are proven by science. VTBalla is a liar if he knows all these users and he hasn’t even heard of dependence/addiction to these drugs.

My comments were directly solely at the OP because there are absolutely zero positive reasons for his use of AAS to build muscles for vanity. I wasn’t talking about HRT. The truth about the health issues is they are never going to run long enough studies on the stuff because of the ethics and health risks imposed on those taking extremely high levels over long periods of time. You can’t mitigate the long term changes from high levels of AAS cycling over years of time if you don’t know what they are.

And don’t start on this it natural because its in you and comes from potatoes. Your body produces the optimum amount of T that it needs in most cases. Injecting a bunch of extra in order to build strength and muscle mass is by no means a natural amount of T.

Go ahead and do it if you have the genetics and want to be a IFBB pro, strongman, in the NFL, top rated powerlifter, oylmpics or whatever but if you just a performance boost or to look good you are a f’ing idiot. The OP and most users, even though it’s their own personal choice, fall into the last group. F’ing idiots. If you don’t have the natural T to get big without them I think its time to pick up another hobby to focus on. I’m not reading the entirety of this thread

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

Meh, I got about 41000 views on my vids, not much for youtube, but enough.

Do you lift weights btw?[/quote]

I do it all baby, pushups, pullups, one legged squat, High Volume Dead lift. I do the good stuff.

Judging by ur pics you have looked the same on this site for the past year & half. Sad.[/quote]

I usually like your posts, Opthete, but you’re off-base here.
Austin has definitely, obviously improved! He doesn’t even look like the same dude.

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I couldn’t watch this thread develop since I was turkey hunting for the past week but you guys really blew up for no reason over my comments when later they were all stated later in the thread by someone else who observed them, besides the liver and kidney issues which are proven by science. VTBalla is a liar if he knows all these users and he hasn’t even heard of dependence/addiction to these drugs.

My comments were directly solely at the OP because there are absolutely zero positive reasons for his use of AAS to build muscles for vanity. I wasn’t talking about HRT. The truth about the health issues is they are never going to run long enough studies on the stuff because of the ethics and health risks imposed on those taking extremely high levels over long periods of time. You can’t mitigate the long term changes from high levels of AAS cycling over years of time if you don’t know what they are.

And don’t start on this it natural because its in you and comes from potatoes. Your body produces the optimum amount of T that it needs in most cases. Injecting a bunch of extra in order to build strength and muscle mass is by no means a natural amount of T.

Go ahead and do it if you have the genetics and want to be a IFBB pro, strongman, in the NFL, top rated powerlifter, oylmpics or whatever but if you just a performance boost or to look good you are a f’ing idiot. The OP and most users, even though it’s their own personal choice, fall into the last group. F’ing idiots. If you don’t have the natural T to get big without them I think its time to pick up another hobby to focus on. I’m not reading the entirety of this thread [/quote]

Elevenmag

STFU VIRGIN.

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I couldn’t watch this thread develop since I was turkey hunting for the past week but you guys really blew up for no reason over my comments when later they were all stated later in the thread by someone else who observed them, besides the liver and kidney issues which are proven by science. VTBalla is a liar if he knows all these users and he hasn’t even heard of dependence/addiction to these drugs.

My comments were directly solely at the OP because there are absolutely zero positive reasons for his use of AAS to build muscles for vanity. I wasn’t talking about HRT. The truth about the health issues is they are never going to run long enough studies on the stuff because of the ethics and health risks imposed on those taking extremely high levels over long periods of time. You can’t mitigate the long term changes from high levels of AAS cycling over years of time if you don’t know what they are.

And don’t start on this it natural because its in you and comes from potatoes. Your body produces the optimum amount of T that it needs in most cases. Injecting a bunch of extra in order to build strength and muscle mass is by no means a natural amount of T.

Go ahead and do it if you have the genetics and want to be a IFBB pro, strongman, in the NFL, top rated powerlifter, oylmpics or whatever but if you just a performance boost or to look good you are a f’ing idiot. The OP and most users, even though it’s their own personal choice, fall into the last group. F’ing idiots. If you don’t have the natural T to get big without them I think its time to pick up another hobby to focus on. I’m not reading the entirety of this thread [/quote]

Elevenmag

STFU VIRGIN.
[/quote]

Lolz

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
I couldn’t watch this thread develop since I was turkey hunting for the past week but you guys really blew up for no reason over my comments when later they were all stated later in the thread by someone else who observed them, besides the liver and kidney issues which are proven by science. VTBalla is a liar if he knows all these users and he hasn’t even heard of dependence/addiction to these drugs.

My comments were directly solely at the OP because there are absolutely zero positive reasons for his use of AAS to build muscles for vanity. I wasn’t talking about HRT. The truth about the health issues is they are never going to run long enough studies on the stuff because of the ethics and health risks imposed on those taking extremely high levels over long periods of time. You can’t mitigate the long term changes from high levels of AAS cycling over years of time if you don’t know what they are.

And don’t start on this it natural because its in you and comes from potatoes. Your body produces the optimum amount of T that it needs in most cases. Injecting a bunch of extra in order to build strength and muscle mass is by no means a natural amount of T.

Go ahead and do it if you have the genetics and want to be a IFBB pro, strongman, in the NFL, top rated powerlifter, oylmpics or whatever but if you just a performance boost or to look good you are a f’ing idiot. The OP and most users, even though it’s their own personal choice, fall into the last group. F’ing idiots. If you don’t have the natural T to get big without them I think its time to pick up another hobby to focus on. I’m not reading the entirety of this thread [/quote]

Elevenmag

STFU VIRGIN.
[/quote]

…you rang?

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The OP is a pussy btw.[/quote]

Why don’t you go post more videos on youtube that nobody watches. [/quote]

Meh, I got about 41000 views on my vids, not much for youtube, but enough.

Do you lift weights btw?[/quote]

I do it all baby, pushups, pullups, one legged squat, High Volume Dead lift. I do the good stuff.

Judging by ur pics you have looked the same on this site for the past year & half. Sad.[/quote]

O No!, since I participate in sports with a weight class, my physique hasn’t undergone drastic changes as of late!? What a shocker.

You have a great physique btw, strong too.

BTW…

January 24 2011