Steroids: Why or Why Not?

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Well, here is my take on it…

Spent a lot of the years of my life not training, drinking a shit load of beer, and smoking like it was going out of fashion…was always pretty slim though, and just naturally quite fit and robust considering my lifestyle.

Got to a certain age… (early 40’s), quit smoking, cut down on the beer, and decided that the alarmingly expanding middle age spread just couldn’t be allowed to get any worse.

Became a regular gym going cardio bunny.

Result? What little muscle I did have all fell off, and I became the archetypal “skinny fat” dude. Not a good look.

Made a conscious decision to quit the heavy cardio, changed the focus of my training to try and build some muscle, found a real joy and passion in weight training, and after working my fecking arse off for several years, (and am now knocking on the door of 50) made a realisation.

I realised that;

Although I am still a funky, Pepsi Max kind of adventure dude IN MY HEAD! I am in reality, nearly fifty fucking years old and probably have about as much natural testosterone as a tomato. Well maybe a BIT more than that, but you know what I mean…

Once that realisation had sunk in, it was a fairly easy decision to make.

Now I know there will be folks reading this who think…oh here we go, training for a few years, and no real idea of the lifting /fitness lifestyle…nowhere near his natural potential?..accident waiting to happen?.etc.

But you know what? So what?

I have read a shit load of articles, here, on other boards, and in books and pamphlets. I am by no means as knowledgeable as many on this board, but I believe I know enough to keep myself reasonably safe.

I use cycles that are strong enough to make a difference, short enough to recover quickly and easily from.

Using steroids I can; indulge my ?Batman? side?.. (We all have a dark side that we like to explore); achieve a reasonably satisfying muscular body at a pretty late stage in life; satisfy my curious nature; enjoy a relatively exclusive and slightly illicit aspect of life; see and feel quite dramatic changes taking place that would take years (if at all at my age) to happen naturally.

I do not feel that it is cheating, as I am not competing with, or comparing myself to, anyone else.

In the UK it is legal to purchase substances for one?s own use.

One member of my family and three close friends know about my steroid usage. If I was asked directly by any other friend or family member if am using ?anything?, I would say yes and try to explain my rational for doing so. I do not believe this would lose me any friends or cause my family to disown me.

Life is too short to be too afraid to do things that make one feel vital!

Crash.

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[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

Ronnie was natty ofc! Duh!

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[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

Ronnie was natty ofc! Duh!
[/quote]

He ain’t never used no steroids…

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[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

I’m kicking myself for not saying
inb4 people start saying Ronnie was a cop, they know some random person in Kentucky that used as a cop, my friend knows a friend that has a brother that used a a cop, blah blah blah

doesn’t mean shit

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One vice in life is probably OK. Whether it’s living a sedentary life, using rec drugs, following a poor diet, or using PEDs, you’ll probably come out fine. When it gets to 2 or more, thats where trouble arises.

Also, many people that claim natural, that make their living off of being natural, that APPEAR to be natural, are using.

You’ll never know for sure.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Also, do you guys think that a lot of the “big” natty guys on this board who carry in excess of 20% bodyfat while bulking, are healthy? Or if this is a healthy choice?

I mean if we’re talking about health risks…

Serious question.[/quote]

This times a billion…

Someone like SkyNett would be better served losing weight than worrying about the potential health risks of steroids.

Or when ProfessorX talks about the people at Burger King recognizing his car, I just shake my head. This is the natural, “healthier” alternative to PEDs?

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:

Agreed its always the opposite. Those on steroids dont train hard…what bunch of BS. That shows ignorance when you think that steroids make you big without hard work in the gym. I dare you to try it and see if you can slap on 20lbs of muscle[/quote]

Was the last remark directed at me?[/quote]

It was directed at people who say that you dont need to train hard while on steroids. So if you are one of those people then yes that comment was directed at you[/quote]

Where in my post did I even remotely imply that?

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[quote]roon12 wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

Ronnie was natty ofc! Duh!
[/quote]

He ain’t never used no steroids…

I love how he and everybody else laughed, after asnwering the question! lol

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[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:

[quote]roon12 wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

Ronnie was natty ofc! Duh!
[/quote]

He ain’t never used no steroids…

I love how he and everybody else laughed, after asnwering the question! lol
[/quote]

he wasn’t denying steroid use… he was being ironic because it’s so painfully obvious.

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Awesome way to answer that question!

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Steroids are the most awsome thing someone can take.
It should be mandatory to be on them.

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[quote]Pump_warrior wrote:
Steroids are the most awsome thing someone can take.
It should be mandatory to be on them. [/quote]

the second part seems a bit bold…

but if someone were to choose one drug to use… in my opinion, steroids are the wisest choice.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
he wasn’t denying steroid use… he was being ironic because it’s so painfully obvious.

[/quote]
Well, yes…
It’s just a brilliant response to someone asking a retarded and inappropriate question.

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[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

cops dont bust cops. duh.

it was a stretch, coleman being black and all, but in the end, the cops decided he was wearing a uniform and badge, and therefore he couldnt do any wrong.

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[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Also, do you guys think that a lot of the “big” natty guys on this board who carry in excess of 20% bodyfat while bulking, are healthy? Or if this is a healthy choice?

I mean if we’re talking about health risks…

Serious question.[/quote]

This times a billion…

Someone like SkyNett would be better served losing weight than worrying about the potential health risks of steroids.

Or when ProfessorX talks about the people at Burger King recognizing his car, I just shake my head. This is the natural, “healthier” alternative to PEDs?[/quote]

I was waiting for someone to make it personal.

I responded to a thread asking a question about whether I would use steroids or not. I answered that - and I did so without personally attacking anyone. I don’t sit around “worrying about the potential health risks of steroids” - I responded to a question, that’s all.

You however, being the class act you are, had to take a personal shot at me. Now, losing fat is DEFINITELY something I need to be doing, and I actually have been doing that. I’m not saying you’re wrong - I am saying there’s no need to be a dick and take a personal shot at my appearance because you’re somehow personally offended that I choose not to use steroids. My post was accurate, and NOTHING I said there was untrue - I was fair and balanced and even pointed out that with intelligent application most sides can be mitigated.

So thanks for that, I definitely appreciate it. And once again I’m reminded why I stopped posting here - and every time I start up again, it’s just a matter of time before someone is an unprovoked asshole to me…

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Also, do you guys think that a lot of the “big” natty guys on this board who carry in excess of 20% bodyfat while bulking, are healthy? Or if this is a healthy choice?

I mean if we’re talking about health risks…

Serious question.[/quote]

This times a billion…

Someone like SkyNett would be better served losing weight than worrying about the potential health risks of steroids.

Or when ProfessorX talks about the people at Burger King recognizing his car, I just shake my head. This is the natural, “healthier” alternative to PEDs?[/quote]

I was waiting for someone to make it personal.

I responded to a thread asking a question about whether I would use steroids or not. I answered that - and I did so without personally attacking anyone. I don’t sit around “worrying about the potential health risks of steroids” - I responded to a question, that’s all.

You however, being the class act you are, had to take a personal shot at me. Now, losing fat is DEFINITELY something I need to be doing, and I actually have been doing that. I’m not saying you’re wrong - I am saying there’s no need to be a dick and take a personal shot at my appearance because you’re somehow personally offended that I choose not to use steroids. My post was accurate, and NOTHING I said there was untrue - I was fair and balanced and even pointed out that with intelligent application most sides can be mitigated.

So thanks for that, I definitely appreciate it. And once again I’m reminded why I stopped posting here - and every time I start up again, it’s just a matter of time before someone is an unprovoked asshole to me… [/quote]

clomid^

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Yeah, what about Ronny being policeman throughout all of his bodybuilding career and never got busted?[/quote]

cops dont bust cops. duh.

it was a stretch, coleman being black and all, but in the end, the cops decided he was wearing a uniform and badge, and therefore he couldnt do any wrong.[/quote]

LMFAO

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Thank heavens I am moving back home to the UK soon

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Also, do you guys think that a lot of the “big” natty guys on this board who carry in excess of 20% bodyfat while bulking, are healthy? Or if this is a healthy choice?

I mean if we’re talking about health risks…

Serious question.[/quote]

This times a billion…

Someone like SkyNett would be better served losing weight than worrying about the potential health risks of steroids.

Or when ProfessorX talks about the people at Burger King recognizing his car, I just shake my head. This is the natural, “healthier” alternative to PEDs?[/quote]

I was waiting for someone to make it personal.

I responded to a thread asking a question about whether I would use steroids or not. I answered that - and I did so without personally attacking anyone. I don’t sit around “worrying about the potential health risks of steroids” - I responded to a question, that’s all.

You however, being the class act you are, had to take a personal shot at me. Now, losing fat is DEFINITELY something I need to be doing, and I actually have been doing that. I’m not saying you’re wrong - I am saying there’s no need to be a dick and take a personal shot at my appearance because you’re somehow personally offended that I choose not to use steroids. My post was accurate, and NOTHING I said there was untrue - I was fair and balanced and even pointed out that with intelligent application most sides can be mitigated.

So thanks for that, I definitely appreciate it. And once again I’m reminded why I stopped posting here - and every time I start up again, it’s just a matter of time before someone is an unprovoked asshole to me… [/quote]

No need to write a novel bro, it was just an offhand comment. Permabulking is at least as dangerous as responsible steroid use, that’s all I was trying to say. Unlike many posters, you have a photo of yourself as your avatar and you were the first one to come to mind.

LOL at clomid comment

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If there is ever a point where I can’t make progress naturally then I will most likely get geared up. Nows not the time though.

I also don’t particularly welcome the instant judgement that would come with steroids.