A blast Increases estrogen and DHT. It will help your libido.
Not so sure it’ll help erections though.
My experience, and from others’ I’ve read says that libido may increase, but not so much erections. They may be hampered with higher E2.
It’s strange. I’m on 30mg/day test and I feel nothing.
Negative folks get on trt and have issues and blame e2. They don’t give it enough time or their dose is low.
So after I “give it time”, and I still have issues, what shall I do? Just increase dose from 30mg/day to higher? that’s already 210mg a week.
Maybe the issues are E2 related as I have lower shbg (19)
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What does the blood work on your new dose after 8 weeks say?
You have another problem that isn’t testosterone and estrogen related, you have tried every protocol I can think of and still you feel nothing, so obviously there is another undiagened issue. I don’t see how your issues could be related to high E2 for the fact you are emotionally blunted.
I think all these protocol changes are pointless because you have something else going on. Your case is not at all common, most feel the effects and androgens for good or for worse, but you feel nothing.
I think a lot of the time men make mistakes by changing dosage all the time and never give each protocol enough time, everytime you change your dosage you are effectively hitting the pause on further progress.
You expect immediate results and that’s not how TRT works for everyone, some men make incremental improves over many months. I think you should just stay on this protocol for a couple of months.
Are you sure you never took accutane or any drug that could explain your lack of response to androgens?
It seems folks with very low SHBG do better on low doses. I say that because it seems just about everyone here pushing 100mg-ish doses seem to have low SHBG and have issues at higher doses. Total speculation and shouldn’t be taken as true obviously. Doesn’t sound like it pertains to you since you have tried various doses/protocols.
When I was doing 185mg/week daily sub-q I thought I felt nothing and even considered that I may not be doing it correctly. I got blood work done and it was definitely working. Once I saw it was working I miraculously started feeling better. Eventually I switched to daily IM (from sub-q) and I like it better although there’s not a huge difference between the two.
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No, never took Accutane or anything that would’ve hampered things. The ONLY thing I can think of is it did take ecstacy a few times when I was younger… maybe 25 years ago. But only a few times.
I also have tried numerous over the counter andro products years back. I have read some people have had sex drive issues with the 19nor products years later. I don’t know.
I do stay the course on each protocol I try. At least 6 weeks or more.
dexter: I don’t have bloods yet on this 30mg/daily cycle. I would like to get them in some time, however, they have to be prescribed by my doctor here in NY. If I ask him for a blood test, he’ll see my high numbers, and cut my dosage unforunitely.
I did look into out of pocket blood testing, but in NY it seems like the ones online you can order don’t allow it in NY state for some reason.
@roscoe88
I used discount labs in April when I lived in the Upper East Side of NYC and they gave me a print out to take to any labcorp. No issues.
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Did u ever have any libido, like, years ago or something?
You did say you lost libido in your early 20’s, ecstasy enhances feelings of empathy and pleasure, something you seem to have lost. Losing the ability to feel pleasure and emotions means you will lose libido.
I know you only took a few pills but that doesn’t mean it didn’t cause damage. Some people are sensitive to drugs, just look at how some men are set to break on only one finasteride pill and then you have other men talking it with no problems.
Yeah, who knows. Something isn’t right. However, I only lost emotion when my E2 was low, at 20. That seemed to go away when it raised up.
This is from discountedlabs.com:
IMPORTANT NOTE: DUE TO RECENT LEGISLATION, WE ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO SERVE THE STATES OF NY, NJ, MA, NH, AND RI. NO LAB LOCATIONS IN VT, ME AND HI.
I checked other lab sites online, and NY is out. Really stinks because I cannot let my dr. see my higher than normal results now. He’ll cut back my 150mg/week allowance. I’m able to do 200mg/week (30mg/day) as I’ve stock piled a bit.
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I read the same thing when I got mine. I promise you they will give you a labcorp sheet. They just can’t use their own lab in NY. They basically act as a doctor prescribing a lab test. (they have an actual doctor that will prescribe the lab test to labcorp for you)
No stay at 30 for 3-4 months. I don’t know anything about your thyroid health, but figure you’ve looked at that right. ? Surely I mentioned it.
Yeah, I’m at 60mg armour daily. So it’s being addressed.
I will stay at the 30mg/daily for awhile.
Have you tried any stimulants yet? How do you react to coffee? Pre-workouts? Ephedrine? Adderall etc l-tyrosine?
Ok did it make a noticeable change. Are you taking 1 grain AM and 1pm? If you don’t feel better with thyroid meds you should increase the dose to 2 am and 1 pm 8 hours apart. You want consistent levels through the day to the morning. Otherwise it doesn’t work well and I stay fatigued.
When I went to 2 am and 2 pm it was night and day.
With 1am and Pm I still had issues with energy. Woke up feeling ill and exhausted. Although it did help, but not good enough.
When thyroid isn’t optimized I have depression. Anxiety. Focus problems and fatigue of a 100 year old man.
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