Starting Daily Injections

I think it’s high E2

You don’t have high E2. You need to stick with your protocol long enough for your body to adjust to it.

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Lol!

Could be. What’s your ratio I wonder? Mucuna and Tyrosine do nothing for me, even at large doses. I’m using Armour as an experiment, 60 mg a day did zero. 120 mg a day for three days now and I’m so tired my eyes hurt, so that’s not working out too well either (I have no idea how many “grains” that is). If a higher dose is not working, I don’t think that there’s a lot of math to figure out. More is less, so see if less is more. Although I’m not a fan of AI use in general, a small dose for a week isn’t going to kill you, but it might prove informative.

I’m on 20mg of T propionate daily and feel fantastic. I used to do bimonthly T cyp and that messed me up (estrogen went through the roof).
My suggestion for injection site is shoulder. I kept hitting veins in the quad.

Why are you telling me. I have never suggested IM.

OMG I though I had you ass blocked you are still full of shit.

I am sorry did you get to see blood test we did not? How the fuck can you say that? Yet another asshole to block.

You’re getting grumpy in your old age! Lmao!!

Just an opinion, and it’s MY opinion so probably not worth as much as others, but I switched from IM injections 50mg 3X per week to 22mg daily subQ, just to see what (if any) differences could be noted.

After 6 weeks now on this protocol, I can definitely say that I feel better overall, though not “optimized”. If I had to go by feel, I’d say my E2 is probably lower on this protocol than it was on the 3X weekly, strictly basing on the fact my emotions seem to be pretty damn stable, and I’ve noticed that my joints are a bit more prone to popping. Just had my blood draw for labs yesterday, so I should be able to confirm this one way or the other in a week or so.

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When I switched to daily at 16mg, my e2 dropped a ton to 20 sens. I felt emotionally flat. Not a good feeling if you’d even call it a “feeling” as I felt nothing emotionally.

I don’t need to see any blood test. At 30 mgs EOD his E2 was in the forties, hardly anything to worry about. Switching to daily at 30 mgs (210/wk) is not going to give someone estrogen issues in the vast majority of cases. I’d be willing to guess the only issue with estrogen that would occur is due to the fact that he’s worried about estrogen. Just forget about E2, put it out of your mind, and stay the course. If he wants to F up his protocol again then by all means stay focused on E2.My god some people make this so much more complicated than it needs to be.

It’s been a month on 30mg/day. I will stay on it another month and see what happens.

I just got a shipment of generic Viagra (kamagra GOLD baby) so I can stay afloat. Pun intended.

So just an outside perspective here, but it seems like quite the logical leap to deduce that someone DOUBLING their dose is not even potentially going to be an issue for e2? Not rebutting your suggestion that its not e2, I couldn;t say either way, only that your logic on how you got to that opinion doesnt add up.

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Basing it more on total dose of 210 /week. I’m not saying that NO ONE will have E2 issues at that dose … plenty of guys have E2 issues on NO dose, because they are fat and out of shape. If it’s the case that the OP is carrying around too much bodyfat and not living a healthful lifestyle, chugging beers, and eating junk, then yes E2 may be an issue, but it’s not related to the dose, it’s related to bodyfat and estrogenic living. I’m sticking with my premise though that 98-99% of healthy, active, men with normal to low bf levels will not have E2 issues, particularly on an ED dosage schedule at TRT level weekly doses.

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Exactly. E2 of 49 at 30mg EOD has GOTTA be up there at 30mg DAILY.

And why are my boners getting worse? What’s to blame for that??

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Don’t disagree with anything you say here, my only point was that the way you used that statement undermined your argument rather than supporting it.

Everything you say here is reasonable, though.

Honestly, your boners are probably suffering because you’re too worried about them, and too worried about E2. Decreasing E2 that’s associated with TRT will result in the loss of many benefits of TRT, such as protection against alzheimer’s, osteoporosis, cardio health, AND sexual function. Let your body adjust, stop thinking about it, stop reading posts on the forum, and research the benefits of E2 associated with exogenous testosterone at TRT levels.

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I do have to say there is a huge mental aspect about it once you start having sexual issues. It turns into worrying about it during the middle of it which obviously doesn’t do anything to help the situation. It sucks.

How come when I was on lower doses were boners better then?

What’s with this @hrdlvn weirdo? Haha. Block everyone you want. Your estrogen must be in the triple digits with your emotional outbursts :rofl::rofl::rofl: Thus guy is one if the most unhinged people I’ve ever seen on this board.

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